Avatar vs Storm

Avatar Kyoshi vs Storm

Niether have any prep or morals

It's during a full moon

Both in their prime

Avatar Kyoshi is a fully realized avatar and she has both of her successors(Roku and Aang's) memories

Kyoshi has used her powers to the same degree.(i.e. using an element on miniscule levels)

Kyoshi has access to any bending shown in the series.

Aang isnt Aang right now he's as he previous incarnation Avatar Kyoshi. I didnt use Aang as he would have a problem killing Storm so I used Avatar Kyoshi whose far moe Ruthless. Yes She can Bend Lightning and Blood bend since the battle takes place during a full moon

Avatar Kyoshi. Absolutey. She's very rutheless, and very powerful.

@Renee said:

Kyoshi can't blood bend, only Katara and Hama have shown that ability. And she's never be shown to bend lighting either. Unless you are giving her those abilities just for this battle. If she does, then I can see her winning with blood bending.

It was never really adressed as to whether or not her or some past Avatar incarnation knows blood and lighning bending which is why i put her as a fully realized avatar

@Renee said:

@redbird3rdboywonder:

She already was a fully realized Avatar. And as for the blood bending, it would be impossible for her or anyone else to know it since it was created by Hama.

It was never stated to be created by Hama. It vwas only stated that she discovered it. The only bending to have been created in the series is metal bending

@FourthDeity said:

Storm started a thunderstorm in someones stomach

said words that gave wolverine himself pause

whatever she throws at storm she can manipulative air to nullify/ clash with it since her control over weather is so precise.

lets not forget her above average durability while kyoshi isnt anything short of a martial artist today.And in a battle like this it wouldn't make much of a difference

From what I've seen of the Storm vs Aang debate is that everyone always goes back to Storm;s Lightning HOWEVER case in point that I did not see on the forum is that the fact of the matter is no Avatar has had to ever use their powers in a way Storm has

@Deadcool: No I seriously wanted this to be fair and really thought noone had done it but they'v did this battle with both Aang and Kyoshi but not with Roku or Kuruck or Yangchen. Anyway from What I've seen on Storm vs Aang most people always go back to Storm's Lightnng because Aang was struck with it at the end o Book 2. Really what it all comes down to is the fact that no Avatar has ever had to use their abilties to the level Storm has so to make it fair I added it

@Deadcool said:

@redbird3rdboywonder: ... Wait, there was a thread Aang vs Storm, and people think that Storm wins... I lost my hopes of this site, Aang was attacked from behind that time and he learned to redirect the lighting in the third book with Zuko as teacher.

Seriously the Avatar is a cosmic being that creates Islands, destroys montains, etc. Why the hell people is so... Oh well...

Yea. Everyone says Storm wins because she has shown greater degrees of manipulation than someone whose been reincarnated numerous times and has over 1000+ years of expierence and most likely has done every feat Storm has and more but there was no need to show it as Aang nor Kyoshi nor Roku ever had use their powers to that degree. They've posted it but the forum was over a year ago. Just type in Avatar vs Storm in the forum search and you'll find it and see what i mean

@Renee said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

It was never stated to be created by Hama. It vwas only stated that she discovered it.

Yes it was. "Watch The Puppetmaster". It explains how she was the one who created it. Hama and Katara are the only people who know bloodbending.

I watched it. She said something like she discovered the ability or somthing like that and only powerful waterbendrs can use it. Sh never said she out right invented it. The only person to have invented bending during the series was Toph who invented Metal bending

@Deadcool said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

Yea. Everyone says Storm wins because she has shown greater degrees of manipulation than someone whose been reincarnated numerous times and has over 1000+ years of expierence and most likely has done every feat Storm has and more but there was no need to show it as Aang nor Kyoshi nor Roku ever had use their powers to that degree.

Has she ever created an island? Has she ever moved montains? Has she ever created enough fire to burn a forrest? Has she ever used air as a force field?

Do you know that Comic Vine has the stupidest amount of Storm Fanboys in the whole web? Damn, I am mad.

They've posted it but the forum was over a year ago. Just type in Avatar vs Storm in the forum search and you'll find it and see what i mean

Yeah, I already did, there are 3 of them.

@Deadcool Seriously. I men i like Storm alot but I figured it should at least be an even battle but I guess some dont see it that way

@TAneT62 said:

Avatar Kyoshi can't blood bend, that old woman created blood bending in season 3. I'm going@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@Renee said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

It was never stated to be created by Hama. It vwas only stated that she discovered it.

Yes it was. "Watch The Puppetmaster". It explains how she was the one who created it. Hama and Katara are the only people who know bloodbending.

I watched it. She said something like she discovered the ability or somthing like that and only powerful waterbendrs can use it. Sh never said she out right invented it. The only person to have invented bending during the series was Toph who invented Metal bending

Well it never said anything about Avatar Kyoshi creating blood bending, the only person who's ever blood bended and shown that ability is Katara and that old woman(Hama) from the southern water tribe in 'the puppet master" so i don't see how storm can win, she doesn't have control over Earth, nor water, as in the manipualtion of these elements. The Avatar wins.

Again I've watched the puppetmaster and again I dont remember them saying anything about her creating bloodending. Not even in Avatar :extras. The only person that has ever invented a bending in the series is Toph. In fact Hama and her the whole episode were just really a halloween episode but as anyway, Yes Katara and Hama were the only two to show it in the series but that doesnt mean some previous Avatar didnt know it just like with Aang's energy bending. The only reason its logical to say Toph invented Metal bending is because metal proably wasnt around until the Fire nation used it to wipe out the Air nomad. Anyway I say Kyoshi wins too

@Deadcool said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

I men i like Storm alot but I figured it should at least be an even battle but I guess some dont see it that way

... I am sorry... well, if someone reply my comment I will discuss it, but I won't change my opinion, so, it would be an unless discussion.

I understand how you feel though :)

ARE WE STILL ARGUEING THIS! Jeez Storm would own Aang even in his avatar state Lightning nearly killed ONE bolt how do you think he would handle 5? Aang is an awesome character, but this isn't a fair fight.

@Blood1991 said:

ARE WE STILL ARGUEING THIS! Jeez Storm would own Aang even in his avatar state Lightning nearly killed ONE bolt how do you think he would handle 5? Aang is an awesome character, but this isn't a fair fight.

You know, he did let his guard down that episode? Also now, he is a much better firebender and lightning bender. And we aren't using Aang on this thread. Avatar Kyoshi is, which is far more ruthless and can move islands even without her avatar state.

@Sissel: hmmm this depends then, the avator has to make rather forceful moves to allow their bending,and unfortunetly for Ktoshi Storm has hundreds of feats compared to her. She did some impressive things but I don't think I can judge a battle on the little bit of her that was shown. So I still give this to Storm because I have a much further grasp on her abilities, and while I think Kyoshi is definetly powerful I havn't seen her use anything on the offensive level of a hurricane.

Storm stomps....and I'm willing to debate anyone who thinks other wise....

@Renee said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

It was never stated to be created by Hama. It vwas only stated that she discovered it.

Yes it was. "Watch The Puppetmaster". It explains how she was the one who created it. Hama and Katara are the only people who know bloodbending.

I watched it. She said something like she discovered the ability or somthing like that and only powerful waterbendrs can use it. Sh never said she out right invented it. The only person to have invented bending during the series was Toph who invented Metal bending

@TAneT62 said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@TAneT62 said:

Avatar Kyoshi can't blood bend, that old woman created blood bending in season 3. I'm going@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@Renee said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

It was never stated to be created by Hama. It vwas only stated that she discovered it.

Yes it was. "Watch The Puppetmaster". It explains how she was the one who created it. Hama and Katara are the only people who know bloodbending.

I watched it. She said something like she discovered the ability or somthing like that and only powerful waterbendrs can use it. Sh never said she out right invented it. The only person to have invented bending during the series was Toph who invented Metal bending

Well it never said anything about Avatar Kyoshi creating blood bending, the only person who's ever blood bended and shown that ability is Katara and that old woman(Hama) from the southern water tribe in 'the puppet master" so i don't see how storm can win, she doesn't have control over Earth, nor water, as in the manipualtion of these elements. The Avatar wins.

Again I've watched the puppetmaster and again I dont remember them saying anything about her creating bloodending. Not even in Avatar :extras. The only person that has ever invented a bending in the series is Toph. In fact Hama and her the whole episode were just really a halloween episode but as anyway, Yes Katara and Hama were the only two to show it in the series but that doesnt mean some previous Avatar didnt know it just like with Aang's energy bending. The only reason its logical to say Toph invented Metal bending is because metal proably wasnt around until the Fire nation used it to wipe out the Air nomad. Anyway I say Kyoshi wins too

True, though i don't believe any other bender has developed this bending, based on limited facts and the episodes. So why use Avatar Kyoshi? She's a great Avatar, but i would have thought Ang would have been your choice, yes i agree, Kyoshi wins. Based on her manipulation of all 4 elements, though has she bended lightning before? I havn't seen her do it in any episodes.

Have you been watching the legend of korra? Loving the new series of Avatar.

I usd Kyoshi because she was shown not to have any hesitation in killing an opponent which is why I used her instead of Aang who as show would hesistate and te slightest hesitation would get him killed and I agree my only point was that though Hama was the first to develop and use it in the series she may have not been the first to discover or use it like Toph did with Metl bending but I agree wth your statement though and as for if she can bend lightning well there wasnt any indication of whether or not she of Roku used it so I gave her both Aang and Roku's abilites. Yes Im watching Korra right now in fact

@Renee said:

@Renee said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

Again I've watched the puppetmaster and again I dont remember them saying anything about her creating bloodending. Not even in Avatar :extras. The only person that has ever invented a bending in the series is Toph. In fact Hama and her the whole episode were just really a halloween episode but as anyway, Yes Katara and Hama were the only two to show it in the series but that doesnt mean some previous Avatar didnt know it just like with Aang's energy bending. The only reason its logical to say Toph invented Metal bending is because metal proably wasnt around until the Fire nation used it to wipe out the Air nomad. Anyway I say Kyoshi wins too

The episode talks about her developing the practice. I don't get how you don't get this. You have no proof (because there is none) and you're just amusing they would know it, which is not true. It's a dark style, something an Avatar would most likely not use anyway.

Again there also isnt any proof that some other avatar hadnt used it. Yes the episode also talks about how she discovered her ability to use it but Hama also said that ithe ability had always been there. If Katara can use it with no teaching at all simply because she is a "prodigy" whose to say that some other prodigy hadn't discovered it but just never developed it to the extent Hama did. Thats all im saying and no i wasnt amusing that they would know it, its just pretty logical to say ove 1000+ years of expirence> Hama. Anyway thats pointless lets just agree to disagree on that fact and say that she knows blood bending and im pretty sure that if an Avatar was angry enough or even someone like Kyoshi would use Blood bending as she is absolutely ruthless

@TAneT62 said:

Avatar Kyoshi can't blood bend, that old woman created blood bending in season 3. I'm going@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@Renee said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

It was never stated to be created by Hama. It vwas only stated that she discovered it.

Yes it was. "Watch The Puppetmaster". It explains how she was the one who created it. Hama and Katara are the only people who know bloodbending.

I watched it. She said something like she discovered the ability or somthing like that and only powerful waterbendrs can use it. Sh never said she out right invented it. The only person to have invented bending during the series was Toph who invented Metal bending

Well it never said anything about Avatar Kyoshi creating blood bending, the only person who's ever blood bended and shown that ability is Katara and that old woman(Hama) from the southern water tribe in 'the puppet master" so i don't see how storm can win, she doesn't have control over Earth, nor water, as in the manipualtion of these elements. The Avatar wins.

Again I've watched the puppetmaster and again I dont remember them saying anything about her creating bloodending. Not even in Avatar :extras. The only person that has ever invented a bending in the series is Toph. In fact Hama and her the whole episode were just really a halloween episode but as anyway, Yes Katara and Hama were the only two to show it in the series but that doesnt mean some previous Avatar didnt know it just like with Aang's energy bending. The only reason its logical to say Toph invented Metal bending is because metal proably wasnt around until the Fire nation used it to wipe out the Air nomad. Anyway I say Kyoshi wins too

@(((Prodigy))) said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@TAneT62 said:

Avatar Kyoshi can't blood bend, that old woman created blood bending in season 3. I'm going@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@Renee said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

It was never stated to be created by Hama. It vwas only stated that she discovered it.

Yes it was. "Watch The Puppetmaster". It explains how she was the one who created it. Hama and Katara are the only people who know bloodbending.

I watched it. She said something like she discovered the ability or somthing like that and only powerful waterbendrs can use it. Sh never said she out right invented it. The only person to have invented bending during the series was Toph who invented Metal bending

Well it never said anything about Avatar Kyoshi creating blood bending, the only person who's ever blood bended and shown that ability is Katara and that old woman(Hama) from the southern water tribe in 'the puppet master" so i don't see how storm can win, she doesn't have control over Earth, nor water, as in the manipualtion of these elements. The Avatar wins.

Again I've watched the puppetmaster and again I dont remember them saying anything about her creating bloodending. Not even in Avatar :extras. The only person that has ever invented a bending in the series is Toph. In fact Hama and her the whole episode were just really a halloween episode but as anyway, Yes Katara and Hama were the only two to show it in the series but that doesnt mean some previous Avatar didnt know it just like with Aang's energy bending. The only reason its logical to say Toph invented Metal bending is because metal proably wasnt around until the Fire nation used it to wipe out the Air nomad. Anyway I say Kyoshi wins too

Wait a minute... Did you just say you think the Fire Nation might have invented... metal? I don't know what to say to that...

I said it probably wasnt around until the Fire Nation used it to wipe out the Air nomads. Im not saying they invented it as it was never adressed but they were the first to use it

@drgnx said:

@Deadcool said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

Yea. Everyone says Storm wins because she has shown greater degrees of manipulation than someone whose been reincarnated numerous times and has over 1000+ years of expierence and most likely has done every feat Storm has and more but there was no need to show it as Aang nor Kyoshi nor Roku ever had use their powers to that degree.

Has she ever created an island? Has she ever moved montains? Has she ever created enough fire to burn a forrest? Has she ever used air as a force field?

Do you know that Comic Vine has the stupidest amount of Storm Fanboys in the whole web? Damn, I am mad.

They've posted it but the forum was over a year ago. Just type in Avatar vs Storm in the forum search and you'll find it and see what i mean

Yeah, I already did, there are 3 of them.

Lets not forget that Avatars don't just stand there and cast, they cast while fighting in H2H.

The there are plenty of hybrids/elites in Avatar; sand benders, swamp benders, metal benders, blood benders, lightning benders, firestarstarters, etc ... which can the Avatar do that was not invented during the 3 books? I only recall metal bending being the first invented style, but did not see the series since the 3rd book.

I agree and you're right metal bending is in fact the only bending to have been created or invented during the entire series.

@Iamlovewithin500 said:

Storm stomps and whoever said
Hama didn't create blood bending,please watch the "Puppet-master" again.She did a whole damn flashback on how she was locked away and found a way to break out of her cell by bending blood in rats,then once she perfected the art, it was time to try it on the big guns(Humans)

Great goddess some people have not a clue. Anything Aang can throw at Storm.. can be countered by her easily.Her powers work faster than his anyways.Benders have to use martial arts movements

Storm just has to freaking think!

Thread CLOSED please.

I said it and watched it she developed the technique to use blood bending but never did it say that she was the first to discover it and he is not a he its a she Kyoshi is a girl. People have said stuff like Storm just has to think and create lightning and things like she pulled a Lightning bolt from the ground up and things like that but or one Lightning strikes from the ground up and your statement and anyone else who says that benders have to use martial arts movements is highly inaccurate. During the episode "The Avatar and The Firelord" an example was show in which benders do no thave to use martial arts movements to use bending. It was win Firelord Sozin shot a giant fireball at Roku and Roku disappeared using Earth Bending in a split second to dodge it.

@(((Prodigy))) said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@TAneT62 said:

Avatar Kyoshi can't blood bend, that old woman created blood bending in season 3. I'm going@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@Renee said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

It was never stated to be created by Hama. It vwas only stated that she discovered it.

Yes it was. "Watch The Puppetmaster". It explains how she was the one who created it. Hama and Katara are the only people who know bloodbending.

I watched it. She said something like she discovered the ability or somthing like that and only powerful waterbendrs can use it. Sh never said she out right invented it. The only person to have invented bending during the series was Toph who invented Metal bending

Well it never said anything about Avatar Kyoshi creating blood bending, the only person who's ever blood bended and shown that ability is Katara and that old woman(Hama) from the southern water tribe in 'the puppet master" so i don't see how storm can win, she doesn't have control over Earth, nor water, as in the manipualtion of these elements. The Avatar wins.

Again I've watched the puppetmaster and again I dont remember them saying anything about her creating bloodending. Not even in Avatar :extras. The only person that has ever invented a bending in the series is Toph. In fact Hama and her the whole episode were just really a halloween episode but as anyway, Yes Katara and Hama were the only two to show it in the series but that doesnt mean some previous Avatar didnt know it just like with Aang's energy bending. The only reason its logical to say Toph invented Metal bending is because metal proably wasnt around until the Fire nation used it to wipe out the Air nomad. Anyway I say Kyoshi wins too

Wait a minute... Did you just say you think the Fire Nation might have invented... metal? I don't know what to say to that...

I said it probably wasnt around until the Fire Nation used it to wipe out the Air nomads. Im not saying they invented it as it was never adressed but they were the first to use it

@drgnx said:

@Deadcool said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

Yea. Everyone says Storm wins because she has shown greater degrees of manipulation than someone whose been reincarnated numerous times and has over 1000+ years of expierence and most likely has done every feat Storm has and more but there was no need to show it as Aang nor Kyoshi nor Roku ever had use their powers to that degree.

Has she ever created an island? Has she ever moved montains? Has she ever created enough fire to burn a forrest? Has she ever used air as a force field?

Do you know that Comic Vine has the stupidest amount of Storm Fanboys in the whole web? Damn, I am mad.

They've posted it but the forum was over a year ago. Just type in Avatar vs Storm in the forum search and you'll find it and see what i mean

Yeah, I already did, there are 3 of them.

Lets not forget that Avatars don't just stand there and cast, they cast while fighting in H2H.

The there are plenty of hybrids/elites in Avatar; sand benders, swamp benders, metal benders, blood benders, lightning benders, firestarstarters, etc ... which can the Avatar do that was not invented during the 3 books? I only recall metal bending being the first invented style, but did not see the series since the 3rd book.

I agree and you're right metal bending is in fact the only bending to have been created or invented during the entire series.

@drgnx said:

@pooty said:

@redbird3rdboywonder: Again there also isnt any proof that some other avatar hadnt used it

that's not how battles work. unless it is showed or stated then we go by what is seen. No one other than Hama and Katara showed blood bending. So until someone else is shown doing it, they are the only two who get credit for it. Giving the power to anyone else is mere speculation without any proof.

also Storm wins. her control and power level are beyond any the avatars have shown.

Technically the OP can give them whatever powers he wants, but others can't give any unseen powers unless the OP states they can use it. But since the OP does not state he can blood bend, we should not use it in this battle, or any other hybrid techniques.

I put her as a fully realized Avatar and set it during a full moon. It shouldnt even be debated if some previous Avatar could or would know Blood bending since they'd been around for thousands of years even before Hama had been born so I dont see why its a problem that I say Kyoshi would know blood bending. I mean we even know that the only offical bending to be invented in the series is Metal bending however since people are not getting it I will go add it now