Avatar: Dai Li vs Metalbenders vs Equalists vs Yuyan

In Avatar, even the fodder can have skill. In this battle, some of the most skilled nameless warriors will face off to determine who the best elite forces are

Team 1: 10 Dai Li agents

Team 2: 10 Yuyan Archers

Team 3: 10 Equalist chi blockers (w/ tech, no mecha-tanks)

Team 4: 10 Metalbenders (5 Republic City police and 5 Metal Clan security)

All teams have 1 day of prep. Basic knowledge about other teams. Standard gear for all

Battle takes place in Republic City. All teams have equal knowledge of the City's layout.

Teams start at the 4 edges of the city. They do not know where the other teams are, but they know they are out there.

Victory by KO, incapacitation, or death.

Morals off

Which team will be victorious?

@killerwasp@kidphillip@aressword@wbr17@korraspirit@gxrevolution96@jr_avatarexpert@dextersinister@thunderbolt30@nighthunder@metaljimmor@spartankobe

I'm going with the Chi blockers. Most Benders don't fare we'll against them during the initial battle.

Not everyone here is a bender. Also, they all have prep, so they'll have basic knowledge about each other and won't be caught off guard as easily by the chi blocking as some benders might be in their first encounter

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Metal benders

Sorry, I'm just copying it from the Battle Callout phonebook, thank you for letting me know, I won't tag you anymore

What do you think gives them the win?

Why the hell do I have three notifications for this?

I don't know, my computer was having some problems, I don't know if that had anything to do with it. I'm sorry, I didn't realize it was sending out multiple notifications

It's okay. I'm not trying to be mean, lol. It just get frustrating when you get the same message 10 times (and I do mean 10 times)

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It's okay. I'm not trying to be mean, lol. It just get frustrating when you get the same message 10 times (and I do mean 10 times)

You can tag me and other people, but just don't do it in the OP.

Wow, I had no idea it was doing that, that would be very annoying. Thanks for letting me know

If anyone else got excessive notifications, I'm sorry, I'll try to make sure it doesn't happen again

Anyone got thoughts on who wins?

@arcus: nice set up Arcus :-)...I'm torn on this with the prep factor, though my gut tells me the metal clan should likely win.

@thunderbolt30:

Thanks, sorry if you got a bunch of notifications

Does your gut have any reasons why the metalbenders win?

@arcus: they have the range edge over the chi blockers, defense edge over the archers and chi blockers, wield the strongest element present (though the Dai Li would still be a challenge in that aspect), and proved a pretty capable force in combat.

But Im not 100% sold on them just yet. The Dai Li and the archers are skilled, well trained and capable of using their coordinated attacks to challenge powerful and skilled benders , so they definitely have a good shot to win.

@thunderbolt30:

Nice logic, though keep in mind that the chi blockers developed tech to counter metalbenders, do you see that being a problem? I'd also say the metalbenders have the least stealth and are most likely to be ambushed

@arcus: good points. At close range I think the chi-blockers would dominate here. And stealth is a very good point. I'll keep thinking on this and check the other opinions more before finalizing a pick.

@thunderbolt30: Cool, thanks for posting

metal benders

@redbird3rdboywonder: Why do you think they win?

I'll give the edge to the Yuyan Archers.

The other three need to be in close to mid-range to be effective while the archers have by far the longest range here, which means they don't even have to approach the other groups to be deadly. While the other three teams duke it out the archers can easily snipe them from several hundred feet off.

They were also extremely agile, able to keep up with the super speed of Aang running, and accurate enough to pin Aang to the ground from a vast distance away. If they wanted to Aang would've been dead very early on in that engagement, and that is more than the other three groups can boast.

The earthbenders all can create cover and fire rock projectiles back which is very useful, but any attempt to leave their cover and go on the offensive will likely end with an arrow between the eyes. Not even Zuko was fast enough to react to one of their archers sniping him in the face, and his reflexes are much keener than any canon fodder soldier.

@arcus: going with chi blockers IF they have no PIS involved. Imo the Chi blockers were very impressive and were able to handle korra without much of a problem which leads me to believe that the old ways of the other forces ( dai li ) would be taken out along with the yuya imo. However as always i can be proven wrong.

@killerwasp: Yeah, the kind of chi blockers that fought Korra and Mako were the ones I had in mind. How do you think they'll overcome the range disadvantage? @metaljimmor: To be fair Zuko didn't even know there were archers. It's easier to react to something when you have some idea it's coming.

their dodge and smoke along with the little throwing things they use to wrap up their foes. Take those away i mite be going with the metal benders due to 5 Metal Clan security they were decent and didn't really fall to zaheer as well. Even though he was a new air bender, but still.

@killerwasp:

No the Equalists have their tech, everything except tanks and planes and other vehicles.

The metalbenders were surprisingly competent against Zaheer

@the_titan_lord: What about the nonbenders in this fight?

@arcus: Then i'd give it to the chi blockers just die to their agility and gear.

@killerwasp: Fair enough. Think the archers will give them any problems?

@arcus: They can resist chi blocking due to armor and can take prety much everyone

@arcus:

Still, that was a very long shot. I'm no physicsologist but I'm fairly sure an arrow from that distance should've been visible before colliding. Zuko was also facing the fortress the archer fired from and on full alert. In this scenario the other three teams will be distracted fighting one another. I sincerely doubt any of them will have a better opportunity to see and react to the arrows than Zuko had in that scenario.

Equalists. Their agility, gear, and abilities make them hard to counter.

@etheral_dreams: how do you think they'll counter the range disadvantage? @metaljimmor: interesting point, I think it's debatable but you might be right @nighthunder: the Equalists have electric weapons

This pretty much. The archers are damn near ninjas from what I remember. though I will say perhaps the chi blockers may have an edge in reaction times. I mean they have to be able to hit exact pressure points in the middle of combat. So I could see them being able to block and/or grab a arrow that was fired at them. Still, the archers would probbaly overwhelm/ take advantage of distractions. But yeah, huge range advantage and normal badassery I think puts the archers at the top here.

I'm split between the Metal Benders and the Dai Li. Both have been impressive, with Dai Li being an old "special forces", if you will, of earthbending which has been developed over many years against Metal Benders who are specialists of an element far stronger than earthbending but not as experienced. And then you have the fact it's in Republic City, which has plenty of earth and metal to bend... I don't think the other teams have much of a chance, no offence to them but the surroundings almost always suit earth and metal benders so they always have an advantage.

When comparing Metal Benders vs. Dai Li, Dai Li kind of come short in comparison, they've been bested multiple times whilst the Metal Benders were able to hold off the Red Lotus group. Hmmm...I'm going to have to give this more thought.

@xenonyte: nice analysis. Think they can overcome the chi blockers anti-bender tactics? They've been pretty effective against Metalbenders before @loumast: The Dai Li are very stealthy too. Metalbenders aren't stealthy, but they have the best ability to manipulate the environment and are very maneuverable. Do you see any of this causing problems?

@arcus: thanks. I need to read up more on the chi-blockers before making any judgement - kind of missed them out by accident when I posted before.

1. Yu Yan Archers

2. Equalist Chi Blockers

3. Metalbending Police

4. Dai Li

@lunacyde: Reasons? @xenonyte: ok, there should be some videos on YouTube, I can post them later when I'm not on my phone

The Yu Yan Archers are the most dangerous here for a couple of reasons. Firstly they have range that far outclasses their opponents. Secondly their accuracy is insane. Even when they were under the handicap of not being able to kill Aang they were agile enough to keep up with him and accurate enough to capture him without hurting him. If they can do so to Aang, a master airbender who is superhumanly agile they can hit anyone here. As Zhao said they are good enough to pin a fly to a tree from 100 yards without killing it...or something along those lines...my memory is faulty.

The Equalists are second because frankly they have shown more against skilled opponents than the Dai Li and Metalbender cops. One on one they took down Korra and Mako early in season 1. Again they took down Korra a second time in Granted they had the element of surprise but Equalists took down the cops easily at the Bending Arena, and their electrified gear gives them an inherent advantage over the metalbenders. They are agile enough to evade the Dai Li's attacks for the most part and a few chi blocking strikes will render the Dai Li pretty useless.

The Metalbending police are third in my opinion because they have some decent showings and their armor/cables are more versatile and simply better than the Dai Li's rock gloves. There is also the fact that the Cops can also bend Earth to a degree of proficiency. The Dai Li in general have very few decent feats. They get owned by just about anyone in any situation unless they have superior numbers or surprise.

@lunacyde: Do you see stealth as a factor in this?

No kyoshi warriors.

Equalist takes this

I don't see stealth being a major factor as none of the 4 teams have displayed any really impressive stealth feats. The Equalists may have the best stealth IMO, but even they don't have anything I think would turn the tide of the battle.

Great breakdown

Archers or Metalbenders.

@laflux: Thanks. It was quick.

@night4345: why do you think they win?@lunacyde: the Dai Li seemed to sneak up on people fairly often, but fair point@gizmorino: Honestly I'm not sure the Kyoshi warriors are quite good enough to compete here. What do you think gives the Equalists the win?

Yeah, this is true, but like I said I don't think it is impressive enough to justify them winning, or defeating anyone here.

I also just realized the metalbenders are half metal clan security. I don't think it makes a major difference, but it is good to note.