Augus vs Genryusai Yamamoto

#1 Edited by terry2012 (4603 posts) - 5 months, 11 days ago - Show Bio

Battle take place at Soul Society

Both are at Full power

Blood lust

Yamamoto can only use his Shikai, martial arts, and kido.

Yamamoto can use his Baki.

Can not go into outer space or another planet .

Augus is even with Yamamoto strength and nothing above that.

Win no matter what.

VS
#2 Posted by terry2012 (4603 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

Anyone?

#3 Posted by Mr_Ingenuity (3248 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

Augus

#4 Edited by terry2012 (4603 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@Mr_Ingenuity: Okay, I saw that one. What do you think about Yasha vs Kazuya?

#5 Posted by uberhikari (907 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

This is a spite match. Yama gets stomped. The characters in Asura's Wrath are demigods. They're massively hypersonic and they possess planetary destructive capacity.

#6 Posted by GodDamnIronMan (1306 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

Augus

he brushed off a direct hit from Asura's fist before...

#7 Posted by saiyan_earthling (4995 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

Augus

#8 Edited by terry2012 (4603 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@uberhikari: The Op is edit. And Bleach characters are close to light speed. So that is not advantage for Augus.

#9 Posted by uberhikari (907 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@terry2012 said:

@uberhikari: The Op is edit. And Bleach characters are close to light speed. So that is not advantage for Augus.

Bleach characters are no where near light speed. Where did you get that from?

#10 Posted by Ferdelance (2319 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

Augus

#11 Posted by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

Augus due to his durability, speed and massive strength.

#12 Posted by terry2012 (4603 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@uberhikari: They are near that speed. They are Hyper sonic speed and above that one.

#13 Posted by Mr_Ingenuity (3248 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@terry2012: Hypersonic starts at mach 5 and continues for a long while before light speed. You could be mach 100 & still too slow.

#14 Posted by terry2012 (4603 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@Mr_Ingenuity: I know that. Because Gin Banki is moves at Mach 500 which is a fact.

#15 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (2731 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@terry2012: Where did you get that random fact from? Gin states that he lied about the facts about his bankai. His bankai turns into dust then reshapes when it hits its targets and has poison in it. Other than that there is nothing else known about his bankai. Bleach characters are at max maybe hypersonic. Nowhere near light speed.

#16 Posted by terry2012 (4603 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@OmgOmgWtfWtf: They more than just hypersonic speed. They do get stronger and faster. Who knows how fast there are since they don't bother to really tell us. So I guess they leave it up to the imagination.

#17 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (2731 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@terry2012: You go by feats displayed and none of them have reached light speed, not even close. Even if you took Gin's bankai speed as fact, which it isn't, it would still be about half the speed of light. So unless it stated on-panel they go at the speed of light or have shown anything remotely resembling light-speed travel, it is safe to say they can't reach light speed.

#18 Posted by terry2012 (4603 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@OmgOmgWtfWtf: You can not go by feats displayed. Because they are a contradiction to what is stated. Take DBZ for example. The manga and the anime are different. I know none of them are not light speed. I said they have gotten faster and that is all.Their Attacks could be light speed. Where was it stated that the Bleach characters was hypersonic speed? Otherwise it is also safe to say that they are not hypersonic speed.

#19 Posted by uberhikari (907 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@OmgOmgWtfWtf said:

@terry2012: You go by feats displayed and none of them have reached light speed, not even close. Even if you took Gin's bankai speed as fact, which it isn't, it would still be about half the speed of light. So unless it stated on-panel they go at the speed of light or have shown anything remotely resembling light-speed travel, it is safe to say they can't reach light speed.

Not quite, lol. Light speed is mach 880,991. Mach 500 is no where near light speed.

@terry2012 said:

@OmgOmgWtfWtf: You can not go by feats displayed. Because they are a contradiction to what is stated. Take DBZ for example. The manga and the anime are different. I know none of them are not light speed. I said they have gotten faster and that is all.Their Attacks could be light speed. Where was it stated that the Bleach characters was hypersonic speed? Otherwise it is also safe to say that they are not hypersonic speed.

You must go by feats displayed because people can be lying about their capabilities. The only time you accept character statements as a factual account of what character(s) are capable of is when it is consistent with feats that have already been displayed.

#20 Edited by terry2012 (4603 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@uberhikari: You can not go feats displayed just because people can lie about it. They can also lie about that too and you have been here long enough to know that. Piccolo blowing up the moon is a prime example of it. Just because he blow up the moon at light speed doesn't mean he is light speed....And yet people still claim it on here that he is light speed.....They still claim the DBZ characters are indeed light speed. That is not true because it wasn't stated. We are reading a comic and watching a show altogether. So we can not only accept character statements as an factual account of what character or character are capable of, is when consistent with feats that have already been displayed. Naruto is a great example of this. They completely retcon Hashirama strength and his forest jutsu from the first part of the Naruto series. Madara even said Hashirama is the only one who can beat him, even though he is far enhanced then what he was in his prime, and yet still said Hashirama is the only ninja who can truly beat him. Do you accept that as a factual account? Minato even hinted at Madara can use Space Time Jutsu and yet we have not seen it. Do you you accept as a factual? I repent if it sound like I'm coming off as harsh, rude, or yelling anything like that. Not my intention, please forgive me.

Minato said he had a level two of his teleportaion technique ( I forgot the name of it) Do you accept as a factual? Because he don't have a level two of that technique, he lied about that. Because when ever we see him teleport it is always to something that he marks and nothing more. Whether it a kunai, person, or the place he marks.

#21 Posted by xeon1cs (1471 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@terry2012: If it never happened on panel. It never happened.

People make the argument that DBZ characters are FTL because Raditz dodged Piccolo's blasts, which were used to blow up the moon in like 2 seconds. But it never states in the original manga that they were FTL, so it's moot and mostly powerscaling speculation. Instant Transmission is so far the only confirmed FTL movement in DBZ as far as I know.

Regardless, the majority of statements made by characters are simply hyperbole. Examples being Cell saying he can bust a solar system and Sentry claiming to have the power of one million exploding suns.

Anything beyond that is pure speculation and pretty much 100% irrelevant to any sort of debate.

#22 Posted by terry2012 (4603 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@xeon1cs: That what I'm saying....And people forget that Raditz was in the distant when he dodge that blast to begin with. It gave him enough time to dodge it. It also means only the attack is FTL and not Piccolo. They barley was dodging bullets at that time, and Goku couldn't fly if I recall.

#23 Edited by OmgOmgWtfWtf (2731 posts) - 5 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@terry2012: If you don't go by feats how else would you adequately gauge a person's powers??? I might as well say that Sentry does indeed have a power of a million exploding suns, that the Hulk is the strongest person there is, that every threat labelled a 'multiversal threat' is indeed true, and that every time someones calls them omnipotent, they must be! You cannot debate without facts to back up your point. Your opinions and preferences don't constitute a legitimate reason as to how Bleach characters are faster than light. Quicksilver and Northstar have feats that makes them much faster than anything in Bleach, and they are not even close to being light speed.

@xeon1cs

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