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@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:
@BigCimmerian: Because the belt of strength makes this a mismatch.
Maybe not, in a weakened state, Atrocitus was able to do this to 3 prominent members of Stormwatch, 2 of which have Krypton level strength. In the end he merely left because they let his teammate go, and because his corps was on the verge of extinction as their battery was poisoned. But he let them know he would be back when he was at full strength. Atrocitus was a Green Lantern threat before he got his Red Ring, with the ring, he is a beast. (I've removed a flashback scene from Atrocitus being mind probed by MMH to show why he was so angry, and a cut scene with Midnighter)
If anything, I'm more worried about Lobo vs BRB.
Edit, also here is MMH himself taking on the JLA, it is a "one off", "no context" scan, but still impressive.
So Atrocitus took on a team with a guy who held his own against the JLA (for at least one scan), that's impressive.
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@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia:
He didn't impress me when he went up against DeathStroke. It Seems heavy hitters get jobbered when they fight DS, but since that was Lobo's only appearance in DCnU (that I know about), it leaves little to go on. DeathStroke did take out a guy who lifted a ship though, and it was pointed out that DS's Nth metal suit is what allowed him to "hang" with Lobo somewhat, but the whole thing didn't leave me with a sense of confidence towards Lobo in this kind of match.
@drgnx: I'm assuming this is pre-flashpoint deathstroke because of the picture, so the slade incident never happened. Were talking about a guy who can't die and has squared off against despero alone.
@drgnx: I'm assuming this is pre-flashpoint deathstroke because of the picture, so the slade incident never happened. Were talking about a guy who can't die and has squared off against despero alone.
First, is that image of Atrocitus and Lobo a fanart or from an actual comic? Because if it's the latter, I must have it. Second, team 1 should win. I won't say it's easy, but I do think it's definite.
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@Joygirl said:
First, is that image of Atrocitus and Lobo a fanart or from an actual comic? Because if it's the latter, I must have it. Second, team 1 should win. I won't say it's easy, but I do think it's definite.
Actual comic i believe the one who made the thread took the pic from me lol... but ye Lobo faces Atrocitus in 2 Red Lantern issues ill try get you the issue number.
First, is that image of Atrocitus and Lobo a fanart or from an actual comic? Because if it's the latter, I must have it. Second, team 1 should win. I won't say it's easy, but I do think it's definite.
Actual comic i believe the one who made the thread took the pic from me lol... but ye Lobo faces Atrocitus in 2 Red Lantern issues ill try get you the issue number.
Lobo and Atrocius have fought before but I don't remember the issue, but it wasn't a real fight If I recall correctly Atrocius paid lobo to take a dive.
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@icysloth said:
@IZZRsaid:
@Joygirlsaid:
First, is that image of Atrocitus and Lobo a fanart or from an actual comic? Because if it's the latter, I must have it. Second, team 1 should win. I won't say it's easy, but I do think it's definite.
Actual comic i believe the one who made the thread took the pic from me lol... but ye Lobo faces Atrocitus in 2 Red Lantern issues ill try get you the issue number.
Lobo and Atrocius have fought before but I don't remember the issue, but it wasn't a real fight If I recall correctly Atrocius paid lobo to take a dive.
@IZZR: I would love to see a real Atrocius vs Lobo fight they are both just epic when written right. I honestly have no idea who would win and like both characters enough that I wouldn't car which way it went.
@jeanroygrant: you are calling this battle a stomp, its going to be a close battle.
It is a stomp. You guys are making it seem like Atroticus is all that powerful, because he messed up Martian Manhunter & Apollo. Who are not even Pre-Flashpoint versions, but there much weaker New 52 versions. Thor or BRB stomp him.
Lobo is as strong as them physically but that's all. They have a lot more powers too. They obviously beat him too.
@jeanroygrant: I am going pre-flashpoint in his origin story pre any power ring he critically injured abin sur, who had his green ring, Atrocius is not to be trifled with.
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@jeanroygrant said:
@icysloth said:
@jeanroygrant: you are calling this battle a stomp, its going to be a close battle.
It is a stomp. You guys are making it seem like Atroticus is all that powerful, because he messed up Martian Manhunter & Apollo. Who are not even Pre-Flashpoint versions, but there much weaker New 52 versions. Thor or BRB stomp him.
Lobo is as strong as them physically but that's all. They have a lot more powers too. They obviously beat him too.
MMH took on the whole the whole JLA, even if they held back, or if he took them by surprise, that is an impressive feat in itself. Both WW and Aquaman have feats lifting ships and planes and Superman is stronger then them. Apollo is implied to be on Superman's level of strength, though I don't believe he is as fast. I doubt reg Thor could even dream of taking on the post 52 JLA.
@jeanroygrant: I am going pre-flashpoint in his origin story pre any power ring he critically injured abin sur, who had his green ring, Atrocius is not to be trifled with.
@jeanroygrant: you are calling this battle a stomp, its going to be a close battle.
It is a stomp. You guys are making it seem like Atroticus is all that powerful, because he messed up Martian Manhunter & Apollo. Who are not even Pre-Flashpoint versions, but there much weaker New 52 versions. Thor or BRB stomp him.
Lobo is as strong as them physically but that's all. They have a lot more powers too. They obviously beat him too.
MMH took on the whole the whole JLA, even if they held back, or if he took them by surprise, that is an impressive feat in itself. Both WW and Aquaman have feats lifting ships and planes and Superman is stronger then them. Apollo is implied to be on Superman's level of strength, though I don't believe he is as fast. I doubt reg Thor could even dream of taking on the post 52 JLA.
@jeanroygrant: I am going pre-flashpoint in his origin story pre any power ring he critically injured abin sur, who had his green ring, Atrocius is not to be trifled with.
He's powerful, but not powerful enough.
Abin Sur is superman with a green lantern ring, superman is at least as strong as Thor if not stronger, and unlike supes Atrocius has no weakness to magic.
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Posted by drgnx
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@jeanroygrant said:
@drgnxsaid:
@jeanroygrant said:
@icysloth said:
@jeanroygrant: you are calling this battle a stomp, its going to be a close battle.
It is a stomp. You guys are making it seem like Atroticus is all that powerful, because he messed up Martian Manhunter & Apollo. Who are not even Pre-Flashpoint versions, but there much weaker New 52 versions. Thor or BRB stomp him.
Lobo is as strong as them physically but that's all. They have a lot more powers too. They obviously beat him too.
MMH took on the whole the whole JLA, even if they held back, or if he took them by surprise, that is an impressive feat in itself. Both WW and Aquaman have feats lifting ships and planes and Superman is stronger then them. Apollo is implied to be on Superman's level of strength, though I don't believe he is as fast. I doubt reg Thor could even dream of taking on the post 52 JLA.
@jeanroygrant: I am going pre-flashpoint in his origin story pre any power ring he critically injured abin sur, who had his green ring, Atrocius is not to be trifled with.
He's powerful, but not powerful enough.
Abin Sur is superman with a green lantern ring, superman is at least as strong as Thor if not stronger, and unlike supes Atrocius has no weakness to magic.
@jeanroygrant: you are calling this battle a stomp, its going to be a close battle.
It is a stomp. You guys are making it seem like Atroticus is all that powerful, because he messed up Martian Manhunter & Apollo. Who are not even Pre-Flashpoint versions, but there much weaker New 52 versions. Thor or BRB stomp him.
Lobo is as strong as them physically but that's all. They have a lot more powers too. They obviously beat him too.
MMH took on the whole the whole JLA, even if they held back, or if he took them by surprise, that is an impressive feat in itself. Both WW and Aquaman have feats lifting ships and planes and Superman is stronger then them. Apollo is implied to be on Superman's level of strength, though I don't believe he is as fast. I doubt reg Thor could even dream of taking on the post 52 JLA.
New 52 Justice League VS Thor?
Thor would win hands down, no question.
He would get speed blitz to hell.
No he wouldn't. and that's practically what you say in every battle.
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Posted by drgnx
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@jeanroygrant said:
@drgnx said:
@jeanroygrant said:
@drgnxsaid:
@jeanroygrant said:
@icysloth said:
@jeanroygrant: you are calling this battle a stomp, its going to be a close battle.
It is a stomp. You guys are making it seem like Atroticus is all that powerful, because he messed up Martian Manhunter & Apollo. Who are not even Pre-Flashpoint versions, but there much weaker New 52 versions. Thor or BRB stomp him.
Lobo is as strong as them physically but that's all. They have a lot more powers too. They obviously beat him too.
MMH took on the whole the whole JLA, even if they held back, or if he took them by surprise, that is an impressive feat in itself. Both WW and Aquaman have feats lifting ships and planes and Superman is stronger then them. Apollo is implied to be on Superman's level of strength, though I don't believe he is as fast. I doubt reg Thor could even dream of taking on the post 52 JLA.
New 52 Justice League VS Thor?
Thor would win hands down, no question.
He would get speed blitz to hell.
No he wouldn't. and that's practically what you say in every battle.
Because its true. And, unlike you, I normally avoid most Thor threads. And for the record, I'm pretty sure you spend more time in Thor Threads saying he won't get blitzed than I spend saying he would get blitzed.
I don't think Atrocitus is speed blitzing anyone. Lobo very well may though.
It's a tough battle, Lobo clears the two in raw physical stats, and Atrocitus matches them in versatility, but I don't think his strength/durability are on their level. I wanna give this to the hammer bros because I think overall they actually beat these two across the board. But at the same time I don't know if they could handle Lobo's healing factor combined with his ridiculous stats.
It'd be a good battle, but I think Lobo is what makes me give this to team 1, at least in the majority. It won't be stomp.
The only thing that worries me is the fact that Thor and BRB could actually BFR Lobo, which does seem kind of out of character, but Thor has done it before. I also have to wonder if Mjonlir and Stormbreaker couldn't absorb most of the energy put out by the Red Lantern ring.
There are a lot of variables here to take into consideration.
I really think Atrocitus could hold on BRB,since he can clearly hold 3 Stormwatchers as our friend,@drgnx said:
@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:
@BigCimmerian: Because the belt of strength makes this a mismatch.
Maybe not, in a weakened state, Atrocitus was able to do this to 3 prominent members of Stormwatch, 2 of which have Krypton level strength. In the end he merely left because they let his teammate go, and because his corps was on the verge of extinction as their battery was poisoned. But he let them know he would be back when he was at full strength. Atrocitus was a Green Lantern threat before he got his Red Ring, with the ring, he is a beast. (I've removed a flashback scene from Atrocitus being mind probed by MMH to show why he was so angry, and a cut scene with Midnighter)
If anything, I'm more worried about Lobo vs BRB.
Edit, also here is MMH himself taking on the JLA, it is a "one off", "no context" scan, but still impressive.
So Atrocitus took on a team with a guy who held his own against the JLA (for at least one scan), that's impressive.
And Lobo can easily compete with Thor,even with strenght belt,since he was already into worst situations:
@jeanroygrant: you are calling this battle a stomp, its going to be a close battle.
It is a stomp. You guys are making it seem like Atroticus is all that powerful, because he messed up Martian Manhunter & Apollo. Who are not even Pre-Flashpoint versions, but there much weaker New 52 versions. Thor or BRB stomp him.
Lobo is as strong as them physically but that's all. They have a lot more powers too. They obviously beat him too.
MMH took on the whole the whole JLA, even if they held back, or if he took them by surprise, that is an impressive feat in itself. Both WW and Aquaman have feats lifting ships and planes and Superman is stronger then them. Apollo is implied to be on Superman's level of strength, though I don't believe he is as fast. I doubt reg Thor could even dream of taking on the post 52 JLA.
New 52 Justice League VS Thor?
Thor would win hands down, no question.
He would get speed blitz to hell.
No he wouldn't. and that's practically what you say in every battle.
Because its true. And, unlike you, I normally avoid most Thor threads. And for the record, I'm pretty sure you spend more time in Thor Threads saying he won't get blitzed than I spend saying he would get blitzed.
Well Thor is my favourite character, so i got to represent, :p
Just because you can speed-blitz someone, doesn't mean their go down, Also who the heck ever told you that either of team 1 is even that fast? I bet 10 dollars Thor is faster.
Atrocitus took a good fight to Stormwatch, and in Rage of the Red Lanterns he (and the other RL's who were not intelligent at the time) basically wrecked all the GLC and the entire Sinestro Corps at the same time. While, technically, that was the entire RLC, none of the others could do anything but go "grrrr! Burnnnn!" At the time. He was the brains and the powerhouse, and he turned the GL universe upside down. That is solid.
@jeanroygrant: you are calling this battle a stomp, its going to be a close battle.
It is a stomp. You guys are making it seem like Atroticus is all that powerful, because he messed up Martian Manhunter & Apollo. Who are not even Pre-Flashpoint versions, but there much weaker New 52 versions. Thor or BRB stomp him.
Lobo is as strong as them physically but that's all. They have a lot more powers too. They obviously beat him too.
MMH took on the whole the whole JLA, even if they held back, or if he took them by surprise, that is an impressive feat in itself. Both WW and Aquaman have feats lifting ships and planes and Superman is stronger then them. Apollo is implied to be on Superman's level of strength, though I don't believe he is as fast. I doubt reg Thor could even dream of taking on the post 52 JLA.
New 52 Justice League VS Thor?
Thor would win hands down, no question.
He would get speed blitz to hell.
No he wouldn't. and that's practically what you say in every battle.
Because its true. And, unlike you, I normally avoid most Thor threads. And for the record, I'm pretty sure you spend more time in Thor Threads saying he won't get blitzed than I spend saying he would get blitzed.
Well Thor is my favourite character, so i got to represent, :p
Just because you can speed-blitz someone, doesn't mean their go down, Also who the heck ever told you that either of team 1 is even that fast? I bet 10 dollars Thor is faster.
Fair enough.
For the record, I don't think Team 1 is fast. But I don't think this is a Stomp either way.
I agree, but Lobo pre-52 has regenerated from a drop of blood in less than a minute or something like that, as well as given Superman a beating to remember.
@jeanroygrant: you are calling this battle a stomp, its going to be a close battle.
It is a stomp. You guys are making it seem like Atroticus is all that powerful, because he messed up Martian Manhunter & Apollo. Who are not even Pre-Flashpoint versions, but there much weaker New 52 versions. Thor or BRB stomp him.
Lobo is as strong as them physically but that's all. They have a lot more powers too. They obviously beat him too.
MMH took on the whole the whole JLA, even if they held back, or if he took them by surprise, that is an impressive feat in itself. Both WW and Aquaman have feats lifting ships and planes and Superman is stronger then them. Apollo is implied to be on Superman's level of strength, though I don't believe he is as fast. I doubt reg Thor could even dream of taking on the post 52 JLA.
New 52 Justice League VS Thor?
Thor would win hands down, no question.
He would get speed blitz to hell.
No he wouldn't. and that's practically what you say in every battle.
Because its true. And, unlike you, I normally avoid most Thor threads. And for the record, I'm pretty sure you spend more time in Thor Threads saying he won't get blitzed than I spend saying he would get blitzed.
Well Thor is my favourite character, so i got to represent, :p
Just because you can speed-blitz someone, doesn't mean their go down, Also who the heck ever told you that either of team 1 is even that fast? I bet 10 dollars Thor is faster.
Fair enough.
For the record, I don't think Team 1 is fast. But I don't think this is a Stomp either way.
Are you basing Team 1's feats off of New 52 versions? or Pre-Flashpoint?
Pre-Flashpoint. Normally I'd use the most current versions, but I don't think Atrocitus is in New-52, and I also combined that with the fact that the picture in the scan is from a Pre-Flashpoint Green Lantern comic.
Pre-Flashpoint. Normally I'd use the most current versions, but I don't think Atrocitus is in New-52, and I also combined that with the fact that the picture in the scan is from a Pre-Flashpoint Green Lantern comic.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
That's the whole reason me, and @drgnx: got into this ruckess lol. I thought it was New 52 versions so i thought it was unfair.
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