Round One
Base form Asura
Base form Goku
Round Two
Six armed Vajra Asura
Goku SSJ
Round Three
Mantra Asura
Goku SSJ3
Round Four
Asura the Destructor
Goku SSJ4
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Round One
Base form Asura
Base form Goku
Round Two
Six armed Vajra Asura
Goku SSJ
Round Three
Mantra Asura
Goku SSJ3
Round Four
Asura the Destructor
Goku SSJ4
@SSJLozza: He can`t beat Asura the Destructor, at best he can stalemate, but Asura was able to defeat the TOAA of his universe who is above galaxy level.
@SSJLozza: Chakravartin the TOAA of Asura`s universe created a realm or dimension for them to battle in, also Asura won with raw strength alone and Goku`s attacks won`t be able to put Asura down for good.
@SSJLozza said:
@NeonGameWave said:
@SSJLozza: He can`t beat Asura the Destructor, at best he can stalemate, but Asura was able to defeat the TOAA of his universe who is above galaxy level.
At SSJ4 Goku can destroy an entire dimension (more than a galaxy)
OH DAMN HERE COMES DA BOOM! ( in other words get ready for debate!)
@comicace3 said:
@SSJLozza said:
@NeonGameWave said:
@SSJLozza: He can`t beat Asura the Destructor, at best he can stalemate, but Asura was able to defeat the TOAA of his universe who is above galaxy level.
At SSJ4 Goku can destroy an entire dimension (more than a galaxy)
OH DAMN HERE COMES DA BOOM! ( in other words get ready for debate!)
Well that is what this forum's for so hopefully yeah.
@NeonGameWave said:
@SSJLozza: Chakravartin the TOAA of Asura`s universe created a realm or dimension for them to battle in, also Asura won with raw strength alone and Goku`s attacks won`t be able to put Asura down for good.
A dimention destroying attack should put Asura down, plus Goku can continue attacking him after the genki dama x10 kamehameha, this is a stomp.
@SSJLozza: It wouldn`t put Asura down, Chakravartin couldn`t even put Asura down and also Asura would strike or force his way through Goku`s attacks, eventually he would overpower Goku through physical as well as brute force.
@NeonGameWave said:
@SSJLozza: It wouldn`t put Asura down, Chakravartin couldn`t even put Asura down and also Asura would strike or force his way through Goku`s attacks, eventually he would overpower Goku through physical as well as brute force.
No, Goku can instant transmission out of his attacks and x10 kamehameha him over and over until he drops (not that one wouldn't drop him)
@SSJLozza said:
@NeonGameWave said:
@SSJLozza: It wouldn`t put Asura down, Chakravartin couldn`t even put Asura down and also Asura would strike or force his way through Goku`s attacks, eventually he would overpower Goku through physical as well as brute force.
No, Goku can instant transmission out of his attacks and x10 kamehameha him over and over until he drops (not that one wouldn't drop him)
@Batman242 said:
@NeonGameWave: Neon, you're wasting your time. I agree with your argument, but this is like moving a mountain,
@NeonGameWave: Exactly what I was referring to.
SSJLozza, Goku needs concentration for Instant Transmission doesn't he? I played a game for Asura and that guy gives his opponent little time to breathe...
@SSJLozza: Asura is much larger in Destructor form as he is larger than the earth itself and through that size would be throwing planets at Goku. Goku`s instant transmission is impressive but I don`t see how it would be effective against Asura in regards to defence and offence. Goku`s attacks take a while to charge, and Asura would reach him before he could deliver repetitive attacks of kamehameha 10x.
@Batman242 said:
@SSJLozza said:
@NeonGameWave said:
@SSJLozza: It wouldn`t put Asura down, Chakravartin couldn`t even put Asura down and also Asura would strike or force his way through Goku`s attacks, eventually he would overpower Goku through physical as well as brute force.
No, Goku can instant transmission out of his attacks and x10 kamehameha him over and over until he drops (not that one wouldn't drop him)
@Batman242 said:
@NeonGameWave: Neon, you're wasting your time. I agree with your argument, but this is like moving a mountain,
@NeonGameWave: Exactly what I was referring to.
SSJLozza, Goku needs concentration for Instant Transmission doesn't he? I played a game for Asura and that guy gives his opponent little time to breathe...
Yes but only for a split second, and considering you play as Asura it depends on the player.
@SSJLozza said:
@NeonGameWave said:
@SSJLozza: It wouldn`t put Asura down, Chakravartin couldn`t even put Asura down and also Asura would strike or force his way through Goku`s attacks, eventually he would overpower Goku through physical as well as brute force.
No, Goku can instant transmission out of his attacks and x10 kamehameha him over and over until he drops (not that one wouldn't drop him)
Umm, did you forget he can't IT when in a tight spot. Man, I thought you knew the series inside out.
@UltimateHero0406 said:
@SSJLozza said:
@NeonGameWave said:
@SSJLozza: It wouldn`t put Asura down, Chakravartin couldn`t even put Asura down and also Asura would strike or force his way through Goku`s attacks, eventually he would overpower Goku through physical as well as brute force.
No, Goku can instant transmission out of his attacks and x10 kamehameha him over and over until he drops (not that one wouldn't drop him)
Umm, did you forget he can't IT when in a tight spot. Man, I thought you knew the series inside out.
I do but tight spot is subjective, IT kamehameha with Cell was a pretty tight spot.
@Batman242: I agree Goku does need concentration for Instant Transmission and also Asura was even powerful enough to crack the moon with ease just by fighting against Oni.
@NeonGameWave said:
@Batman242: I agree Goku does need concentration for Instant Transmission and also Asura was even powerful enough to crack the moon with ease just by fighting against Oni.
If Oni Akuma can hold is own Goku would destroy him since Oni's best feat thusfar is making a volcano erupt.
@SSJLozza: That fight might not of been canon or it could be considering the fact that Augus` sword was still embedded in the moon. However those were gameplay mechanics, and Asura is far greater in power because he didn`t not even transform into his Destructor form.
@SSJLozza: I think a planet buster punch counts as a tight spot. If the planet goes, Goku must depart.
@NeonGameWave said:
@SSJLozza: That fight might not of been canon or it could be considering the fact that Augus` sword was still embedded in the moon. However those were gameplay mechanics, and Asura is far greater in power because he didn`t not even transform into his Destructor form.
It wasn't but since you used it just thought I'd counter with it. All the destructor form will do is give Goku a bigger target.
@SSJLozza said:
@NeonGameWave said:
@Batman242: I agree Goku does need concentration for Instant Transmission and also Asura was even powerful enough to crack the moon with ease just by fighting against Oni.
If Oni Akuma can hold is own Goku would destroy him since Oni's best feat thusfar is making a volcano erupt.
That wasn't canon. They also increased Oni's power for the fight since Asura is so far beyond him.
@SSJLozza: The Destructor form makes Asura far more durable and also energy attacks wouldn`t harm him that much, physical attacks don`t do much either. Asura was able to destroy a planetary+ threat with just one punch alone as he was able to channel energy into his fist, this attack is similar to Goku`s Dragon Fist but it is far more powerful.
@NeonGameWave said:
@SSJLozza: The Destructor form makes Asura far more durable and also energy attacks wouldn`t harm him that much, physical attacks don`t do much either. Asura was able to destroy a planetary+ threat with just one punch alone as he was able to channel energy into his fist, this attack is similar to Goku`s Dragon Fist but it is far more powerful.
12:51 - 14:20
How do you know energy attacks wouldn't ahrm him? Or that he's more durable it doesn't say that as far as I remember?
@SSJLozza: Because he usually tanks blows from gods who use energy attacks and he also has shown many times that he can break through energy attacks with just brute force alone.
@SSJLozza: In his upper levels, he could break the planet just by fighting so it doesn't matter what he is aiming for. And I'm not sure if in this case It'sing to another planet is bfr but It could be , in which case Asura wins by default. And If he is a universe buster like everyone else says, ITing to a different planet wouldn't help. And then if the planet is about to end, he couldn't IT, like when he was fighting Kid Buu.
I'll go with Asura. Not a stomp but a well rounder victory. Hell I think even Yasha would give Goku a run for his money
@SMXLR8 said:
@SSJLozza: why do you like to wank DBZ so much?
DBZ fan boy logic. When in doubt, destroy the planet.
I don't think Goku can beat someone who is somewhere in TOAA league (I'd not say stronger, as I think the chakra guy admitted there were people stronger than him..) Plus asura can still grow stronger..
@SSJLozza: Well, you can see me siding with Goku most of the times, but I don't think he can pull it off here.. honestly.
@NeonGameWave: Don't even bother with this guy. He alwys think that Goku wins or DBZ no matter what. I'll amke a battle and try to get him to see and see what he says
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