Ash vs Red

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Team Red:

Espeon, Pikachu, Snorlax, Pikachu, Blastoise and Charizard.

Team Ash:

prime Pikachu, Charizard, Sceptile, Staraptor, Buizel and Heracross.

*standard 1 on 1 battle. Can change their pokemon at any time.

*this is a anime type real battle not game battle.

*give reasons at who is gonna win dont just say stomp because it is not if you think otherwise state why.

*no jobber for ash.

Bonus Round: Red takes on Tobias.

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Its venusaur for red not an extra pikachu

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#3  Edited By sirfizzwhizz

Lets see, in one corner we have the guy who caught every pokemon, won his leagues, caught mew two, first to discover Mega Evolutions, dismantle team rocket against the boss himself, and overall a legend that lived as ghost story in the mountains of another region.

In the other we have the whiny, epic failure of a trainer who cannot win a league to save his life other than Orange League which no one cares about, has issues with two reject team rocket members, needs a posse to help him all the time, and fails as a trainer to catch them all.

Yeah.... not even close.

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@sirfizzwhizz: you forgot to add saved the world multiple times, actually cares about his pokemon, defeated legenderies who were vastly stronger than the game counterparts and battles evil organizations who are actually dangerous not just someone with raticate or zubat.

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@sirfizzwhizz: To be fair, the Team Rocket trio are beaten every time but they just keep following him... it's not like it's his goal to take down Team Rocket.

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@sirfizzwhizz: you forgot to add saved the world multiple times, actually cares about his pokemon, defeated legenderies who were vastly stronger than the game counterparts and battles evil organizations who are actually dangerous not just someone with raticate or zubat.

Oh yeah your right.

He never really saved the world by himself at all, good point.

He cares so much that he rather have his pokemon as weak starters than evolved into useful forms, and charizard never listens to him regardless of his caring lol.

Yes, he never challenge or beaten the leader of Team Rocket, and make him disband it. Good point again.

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Red stomps Ash round 1. Stronger trainer and stronger Pokémon.

Tobias stomps Red round 2. Do we even know what his team consists of other than his first 2?

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@sirfizzwhizz: He never "really saved the world by himself at all, good point." yeah some nameless person saved earth from arceus, dialga, palkia, mewtwo etc...

"He cares so much that he rather have his pokemon as weak starters than evolved into useful forms, and charizard never listens to him regardless of his caring lol." better than forcing pokemon to evolve and if you dont think he cares for his pokemon then i doubt you did not watch the anime or you are a red fanboy.

"Yes, he never challenge or beaten the leader of Team Rocket, and make him disband it." well who do you think spoiled team magma and aqua and he also saved lugia from team rocket which was vastly dangerous than game counterpart that alone is > anything red did

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@thetruthIII: this is like anime battles and not like game battle. And can you prove that red is actually better than ash and his pokemon are stronger than those mentioned in op