Ash doesn't have any pokemon with him, and Ben does not have the omnitrix.
Straight up fight in a boxing ring (but no gloves or pads).
Terms of victory are KO, incapacitation, or submission.
Morals apply.
Ben is the version from Alien Force (15 years old) and Ash is the same age.
Ash Ketchum vs Ben Tennyson
IN aliene force ( season 3 I believe) Ben showed some training in weapons and possibly h2h. I think, overall, he's more skilled than Ash. However, Ash will be tough to put down since he can withstand fire and electric attacks the way he does. Ben is subject to real world physics while Ash isn't. I guess if Ben puts Ash in a headlock or something, he can stop him.
" ash is only like 8 isnt he? "no....
but seriously,Ash cant be hurt by Ben....he has been eletrocuted by Pikachu only to be perfectly fine seconds later
" @innocence said:Not to mention the amount of other Pokemon who have hit him in the face(those birds from the first episode come to mind). Ash's durability is just insane." ash is only like 8 isnt he? "no.... but seriously,Ash cant be hurt by Ben....he has been eletrocuted by Pikachu only to be perfectly fine seconds later "
" @innocence said:" ash is only like 8 isnt he? "no.... but seriously,Ash cant be hurt by Ben....he has been eletrocuted by Pikachu only to be perfectly fine seconds later "
So Ash has minor toon force?
" @Matezoide said:You can't beat someone in a fight if you can't hurt them." @innocence said:and how does that make ash have better h2h than ben............ "" ash is only like 8 isnt he? "no.... but seriously,Ash cant be hurt by Ben....he has been eletrocuted by Pikachu only to be perfectly fine seconds later "
" @Kinasin said:and Ben isnt a good fighter,his opponents are too just too dumb to beat him when he is powerless" @Matezoide said:You can't beat someone in a fight if you can't hurt them. "" @innocence said:and how does that make ash have better h2h than ben............ "" ash is only like 8 isnt he? "no.... but seriously,Ash cant be hurt by Ben....he has been eletrocuted by Pikachu only to be perfectly fine seconds later "
" @Kinasin said:" @Matezoide said:You can't beat someone in a fight if you can't hurt them. "" @innocence said:and how does that make ash have better h2h than ben............ "" ash is only like 8 isnt he? "no.... but seriously,Ash cant be hurt by Ben....he has been eletrocuted by Pikachu only to be perfectly fine seconds later "
Loop hole =D
Someone might be impossible to hurt but may still be erased from existance.
Unless that's not what you meant by hurt....
My point's totally irrelevant to this battle anyway =/
" @Albert Ventum: That's wrong. Ben can likely subdue Ash in some way. "How? Ash may not be the best fighter but he's still got his own pimp skills. He's always dodging wild Pokemon and such during episodes and don't even get me started on the movies, where he's shown dodging laser blasts and climbing on walls like some kind of ninja.
and what decent skill feats Ben got anyway?" @OblivionKnight said:
" @Albert Ventum: That's wrong. Ben can likely subdue Ash in some way. "How? Ash may not be the best fighter but he's still got his own pimp skills. He's always dodging wild Pokemon and such during episodes and don't even get me started on the movies, where he's shown dodging laser blasts and climbing on walls like some kind of ninja. "
Ben, easily. Ash has to spend time giving one order at a time. Tennyson's gonna figure that out quickly and knock him out
since when do Ben knows any moves?" @Matezoide: Headlock. Knock him out of the ring. Ash hasn't been shown to be that strong, physically. "
@Kinasin said:
" So ash is invulnerable, ok............ "
knows any moment he was injured and wasnt perfectly fine in 4 seconds?
@texasdeathmatch said:
" Ben, easily. Ash has to spend time giving one order at a time. Tennyson's gonna figure that out quickly and knock him out "
if Pikachu cant KO Ash....neither can Ben
" Ben, easily. Ash has to spend time giving one order at a time. Tennyson's gonna figure that out quickly and knock him out "Ash is too durable and potentially too fast(if we're counting movies)
" @Albert Ventum said:To my recollection, he has been shown to be trained ( at least a little) by his cousin Gwen, who's a black belt. He was also capable of taking the blasters from Manny, a tetramand much stronger than Ben himself. Although not much, it puts him above Ash.and what decent skill feats Ben got anyway? "" @OblivionKnight said:
" @Albert Ventum: That's wrong. Ben can likely subdue Ash in some way. "How? Ash may not be the best fighter but he's still got his own pimp skills. He's always dodging wild Pokemon and such during episodes and don't even get me started on the movies, where he's shown dodging laser blasts and climbing on walls like some kind of ninja. "
" @Matezoide said:Ash still got better durability feats than Ben :P" @Albert Ventum said:To my recollection, he has been shown to be trained ( at least a little) by his cousin Gwen, who's a black belt. He was also capable of taking the blasters from Manny, a tetramand much stronger than Ben himself. Although not much, it puts him above Ash. "and what decent skill feats Ben got anyway? "" @OblivionKnight said:
" @Albert Ventum: That's wrong. Ben can likely subdue Ash in some way. "How? Ash may not be the best fighter but he's still got his own pimp skills. He's always dodging wild Pokemon and such during episodes and don't even get me started on the movies, where he's shown dodging laser blasts and climbing on walls like some kind of ninja. "
and i dont recall Gwen training Ben at all
Ben has ben trained by the plumbers, IIRC. A headlock is not something you need to be trained to do exactly. It's something that someone should be capable of doing without having an extensive knowledge of fighting. I myself can do it. Just because of his durability doesn't mean he can't be subdued or knocked out the ring.
It's always fun when an old thread you don't even remember making pops up to the front page again. :)
@OblivionKnight said:
@Matezoide said:" @Albert Ventum said:To my recollection, he has been shown to be trained ( at least a little) by his cousin Gwen, who's a black belt. He was also capable of taking the blasters from Manny, a tetramand much stronger than Ben himself. Although not much, it puts him above Ash.and what decent skill feats Ben got anyway? "" @OblivionKnight said:
" @Albert Ventum: That's wrong. Ben can likely subdue Ash in some way. "How? Ash may not be the best fighter but he's still got his own pimp skills. He's always dodging wild Pokemon and such during episodes and don't even get me started on the movies, where he's shown dodging laser blasts and climbing on walls like some kind of ninja. "
Ash zigs when Ben zags.
Conclusion: Ash stomps with utter ease
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