Ash Ketchum vs Ben Tennyson

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#1  Edited By Power NeXus

Ash doesn't have any pokemon with him, and Ben does not have the omnitrix. 
Straight up fight in a boxing ring (but no gloves or pads). 
Terms of victory are KO, incapacitation, or submission. 
Morals apply. 
Ben is the version from Alien Force (15 years old) and Ash is the same age.

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#2  Edited By Kinasin

ben has been in tons of heads up brawls he takes this by having way more fighting skill than ash with ease.......

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#3  Edited By Albert Ventum

Ash is able to take lightning to the face on several occasions. He stomps.

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#4  Edited By Matezoide2

Ash easily

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#5  Edited By sexy_merc

Ash talks to him, enough said.

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#6  Edited By innocence

ash is only like 8 isnt he?

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#7  Edited By Knightly1

IN aliene force ( season 3 I believe) Ben showed some training in weapons and possibly h2h. I think, overall, he's more skilled than Ash. However, Ash will be tough to put down since he can withstand fire and electric attacks the way he does. Ben is subject to real world physics while Ash isn't. I guess if Ben puts Ash in a headlock or something, he can stop him.

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#8  Edited By Matezoide2
@innocence said:
" ash is only like 8 isnt he? "
no....
 
but seriously,Ash cant be hurt by Ben....he has been eletrocuted by Pikachu only to be perfectly fine seconds later
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#9  Edited By Albert Ventum
@Matezoide said:
" @innocence said:
" ash is only like 8 isnt he? "
no....  but seriously,Ash cant be hurt by Ben....he has been eletrocuted by Pikachu only to be perfectly fine seconds later "
Not to mention the amount of other Pokemon who have hit him in the face(those birds from the first episode come to mind). Ash's durability is just insane.
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#10  Edited By Pr_Beyonder
@Matezoide said:
" @innocence said:
" ash is only like 8 isnt he? "
no....  but seriously,Ash cant be hurt by Ben....he has been eletrocuted by Pikachu only to be perfectly fine seconds later "

So Ash has minor toon force?
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#11  Edited By Knightly1
@Pr_Beyonder: He uses cartoon logic, not necessarily toon force. 
An interesting fight would be Ben vs all of Ash's, Brock's, May, and Misty's pokemon.
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#12  Edited By Kinasin
@Matezoide said:
" @innocence said:
" ash is only like 8 isnt he? "
no....  but seriously,Ash cant be hurt by Ben....he has been eletrocuted by Pikachu only to be perfectly fine seconds later "
and how does that make ash have better h2h than ben............
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#13  Edited By Albert Ventum
@Kinasin said:
" @Matezoide said:
" @innocence said:
" ash is only like 8 isnt he? "
no....  but seriously,Ash cant be hurt by Ben....he has been eletrocuted by Pikachu only to be perfectly fine seconds later "
and how does that make ash have better h2h than ben............ "
You can't beat someone in a fight if you can't hurt them.
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#14  Edited By Matezoide2
@Albert Ventum said:
" @Kinasin said:
" @Matezoide said:
" @innocence said:
" ash is only like 8 isnt he? "
no....  but seriously,Ash cant be hurt by Ben....he has been eletrocuted by Pikachu only to be perfectly fine seconds later "
and how does that make ash have better h2h than ben............ "
You can't beat someone in a fight if you can't hurt them. "
and Ben isnt a good fighter,his opponents are too just too dumb to beat him when he is powerless
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#15  Edited By Knightly1
@Albert Ventum: That's wrong. Ben can likely subdue Ash in some way.
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#16  Edited By Matezoide2
@OblivionKnight said:

" @Albert Ventum: That's wrong. Ben can likely subdue Ash in some way. "

how?
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#17  Edited By Pr_Beyonder
@Albert Ventum said:
" @Kinasin said:
" @Matezoide said:
" @innocence said:
" ash is only like 8 isnt he? "
no....  but seriously,Ash cant be hurt by Ben....he has been eletrocuted by Pikachu only to be perfectly fine seconds later "
and how does that make ash have better h2h than ben............ "
You can't beat someone in a fight if you can't hurt them. "

Loop hole =D 
 
Someone might be impossible to hurt but may still be erased from existance. 
 
Unless that's not what you meant by hurt.... 
 
 
My point's totally irrelevant to this battle anyway =/
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#18  Edited By Albert Ventum
@OblivionKnight said:
" @Albert Ventum: That's wrong. Ben can likely subdue Ash in some way. "
How? Ash may not be the best fighter but he's still got his own pimp skills. He's always dodging wild Pokemon and such during episodes and don't even get me started on the movies, where he's shown dodging laser blasts and climbing on walls like some kind of ninja. 
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#19  Edited By Knightly1
@Matezoide: Headlock.  
Knock him out of the ring. 
Ash hasn't been shown to be that strong, physically.
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#20  Edited By Kinasin

So ash is invulnerable, ok............

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#21  Edited By Matezoide2
@Albert Ventum said:

" @OblivionKnight said:

" @Albert Ventum: That's wrong. Ben can likely subdue Ash in some way. "
How? Ash may not be the best fighter but he's still got his own pimp skills. He's always dodging wild Pokemon and such during episodes and don't even get me started on the movies, where he's shown dodging laser blasts and climbing on walls like some kind of ninja.  "
and what decent skill feats Ben got anyway?
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#22  Edited By texasdeathmatch

Ben, easily. Ash has to spend time giving one order at a time. Tennyson's gonna figure that out quickly and knock him out

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#23  Edited By Matezoide2
@OblivionKnight said:

" @Matezoide: Headlock.   Knock him out of the ring.  Ash hasn't been shown to be that strong, physically. "

since when do Ben knows any moves?
 
@Kinasin said:

" So ash is invulnerable, ok............ "


knows any moment he was injured and wasnt perfectly fine in 4 seconds?  
 
@texasdeathmatch said:
" Ben, easily. Ash has to spend time giving one order at a time. Tennyson's gonna figure that out quickly and knock him out "

if Pikachu cant KO Ash....neither can Ben
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#24  Edited By Albert Ventum
@texasdeathmatch said:
" Ben, easily. Ash has to spend time giving one order at a time. Tennyson's gonna figure that out quickly and knock him out "
Ash is too durable and potentially too fast(if we're counting movies)
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#25  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Matezoide: Ah ha, it's going to be one of those fights...
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#26  Edited By Matezoide2
@texasdeathmatch said:
" @Matezoide: Ah ha, it's going to be one of those fights... "
lol
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#27  Edited By Knightly1
@Matezoide said:
" @Albert Ventum said:

" @OblivionKnight said:

" @Albert Ventum: That's wrong. Ben can likely subdue Ash in some way. "
How? Ash may not be the best fighter but he's still got his own pimp skills. He's always dodging wild Pokemon and such during episodes and don't even get me started on the movies, where he's shown dodging laser blasts and climbing on walls like some kind of ninja.  "
and what decent skill feats Ben got anyway? "
To my recollection, he has been shown to be trained ( at least a little) by his cousin Gwen, who's a black belt. He was also capable of taking the blasters from Manny, a tetramand much stronger than Ben himself. Although not much, it puts him above Ash.
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#28  Edited By Matezoide2
@OblivionKnight said:
" @Matezoide said:
" @Albert Ventum said:

" @OblivionKnight said:

" @Albert Ventum: That's wrong. Ben can likely subdue Ash in some way. "
How? Ash may not be the best fighter but he's still got his own pimp skills. He's always dodging wild Pokemon and such during episodes and don't even get me started on the movies, where he's shown dodging laser blasts and climbing on walls like some kind of ninja.  "
and what decent skill feats Ben got anyway? "
To my recollection, he has been shown to be trained ( at least a little) by his cousin Gwen, who's a black belt. He was also capable of taking the blasters from Manny, a tetramand much stronger than Ben himself. Although not much, it puts him above Ash. "
Ash still got better durability feats than Ben :P
and i dont recall Gwen training Ben at all
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#29  Edited By Knightly1
@Matezoide: At the very beginning of Alien Force. The very first episode, in fact.
Ben has ben trained by the plumbers, IIRC. A headlock is not something you need to be trained to do exactly. It's something that someone should be capable of doing without having an extensive knowledge of fighting. I myself can do it. Just because of his durability doesn't mean he can't be subdued or knocked out the ring.
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#30  Edited By Kinasin

Ash can take pikachu's lightning big deal.......he's not gonna take blunt force trauma to his gourd stem and survive for long ben FTW

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#31  Edited By Albert Ventum
@OblivionKnight: Headlock is easy to counter with a nice kick in the balls. Just saying. 
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#32  Edited By SyncGirl

Ben,no doubt.Usually,when Ash is thrown way by some enemie(usually a Pokémon) he isn't injured.Ben folllows the same line,but he has military training and is a freestyle hand-to-hand combatant.

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#33  Edited By (((Prodigy)))

It's always fun when an old thread you don't even remember making pops up to the front page again. :)

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#34  Edited By KMART4455

All I know is

Ash has Toon Force.

He wont be hurt by Ben

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#35  Edited By Pharoh_Atem

Ash.

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#36  Edited By Jorgevy

Ash stomps. He has aura powers, Ben without Omnitrix has nothing. ASH STOMPS

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#37  Edited By Wolfrazer

  

  When he turns the hat, he becomes serious. Look at those mad skills, he got up quick!
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#38  Edited By jeanroygrant

@Sexy Merc said:

Ash talks to him, enough said.
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#39  Edited By KMART4455

Didnt ash tank a flamethrower attack from Charizard?

Ash wins... Still.

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#40  Edited By PokemonMan

@OblivionKnight said:

@Matezoide said:
" @Albert Ventum said:

" @OblivionKnight said:

" @Albert Ventum: That's wrong. Ben can likely subdue Ash in some way. "
How? Ash may not be the best fighter but he's still got his own pimp skills. He's always dodging wild Pokemon and such during episodes and don't even get me started on the movies, where he's shown dodging laser blasts and climbing on walls like some kind of ninja. "
and what decent skill feats Ben got anyway? "
To my recollection, he has been shown to be trained ( at least a little) by his cousin Gwen, who's a black belt. He was also capable of taking the blasters from Manny, a tetramand much stronger than Ben himself. Although not much, it puts him above Ash.

Ash zigs when Ben zags.

Conclusion: Ash stomps with utter ease