Asajj Ventress & Bariss Offee Vs Shaak Ti & Luminara Unduli.

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Asajj Ventress and Barriss Offee(The Clone Wars Incarnations) Vs Shaak Ti(The Force Unleashed version) and Luminara Unduli.(The Clone Wars)

Morals: Team one is in rage mode(Bloodlust) Team two has 2 hours of prep to compensate.

Distance: Both teams are 15 meters away from each other

Location. Felucia

Special Rules: If Luminara is taken out, Shaak Ti is allowed to duel wield both of their sabers.

Who wins?

Apologies to the mods if I forgot a rule I'm relatively new at this forum and am figuring out the some of its quirks and such :)

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Team 1.

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Ace Ventura's team wins

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Team 1 wins every time. Luminara loses to Ventress as she already has, and Shaak Ti vs Bariss Offee is a bit more difficult to say, but at least Bariss's Soresu will hold off Shaak (who really doesn't have any skill feats) for an extensive enough period for Ventress to finish her off.

In the reverse, Bariss and Luminara are actually closely skilled/matched, but the fact that the both have chosen to specialize in Soresu, and the fact that they likely know each other's moves extensively via their relationship as master and apprentice, should solidify the idea of a stalemate. It's really just about impossible for any one of them to land a hit on the other. Ventress should beat Shaak every time, fairly soundly, and Bariss and Ventress together defeat Luminara every time.

Team 1, 10/10. Bariss's defensive abilities and Ventress being on a superior tier to the rest grants them the win every time.

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@shootingnova:

I don't understand how Shaak Ti doesn't "Have any skill feats" She's shown herself to be an powerful duelist whom Dooku considered a threat to grevious(at least in the LoE reprint) She's shown herself quite capable of taking pain in her fight with the dozens of Magna-Guards on Corousant and her very presence on Felucia shifted the planets dark power. Not saying I disagree with your analyzes but Shaak Ti isn't featless. Apologies If I mis-understood.

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#6  Edited By spartankobe

@fated_xtasy: She was already beaten by Grievous in the 2D cartoon wasn't she? She had Mundi and 2 knights to help her too, unless that is considered non-canon as of now...

Another thing:

Ventress has shown herself to be more powerful than any of the three, and Bariss seems equal with Shaak and Luminara. Ventress stalemated with Grievous. She has also given Obi-Wan and Anakin major trouble, and both of them are tougher opponents than either of these three.

Team 1 wins.

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Asajj would land a strong majority over either one due to better speed, skill, and TK feats. While Barriss should at least be able to hold her own against both. Team 1 10/10.

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@spartankobe:

Yeah the OCW Cartoon somewhat contradicts the LoE Book now, but if we were to take it into account she was the second Jedi master in the team that lasted the longest against Grevious, Aayla and the other master were taken out quite quickly while Mundi and Shaak Ti held their own for a bit. Also Grevious did need to Ambush Shaak Ti and the team to accomplish this.

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@spartankobe:

Yeah the OCW Cartoon somewhat contradicts the LoE Book now, but if we were to take it into account she was the second Jedi master in the team that lasted the longest against Grevious, Aayla and the other master were taken out quite quickly while Mundi and Shaak Ti held their own for a bit. Also Grevious did need to Ambush Shaak Ti and the team to accomplish this.

Not really. He didn't start fighting them until he was in plain view of them all..and it's not like they didn't have time to react to his attacks. They just..couldn't for the most part.

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Straight up fights them. Only one gets killed by batmaning it. He tries it again, but for the most part, it is just Grievous going toe to toe with a large group of Jedi and crushing them.

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@juiceboks:

Apologies, you're right my bad, still Ki Adi And Shaak Ti held out the longest out of the entire group which is impressive. Still I can see why people say Ventress wins this one her team, she is an extremely talented duelist.

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Team 1.

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@fated_xtasy: She lost to Grievous twice, and got stomped in both of those encounters. She did have fatigue issues, I suppose, but she still lacks feats. Dooku's comment was more of a need to vent his frustration at Grievous as opposed to realistic situations. Shaak has no showings that even remotely indicate this. She was stomped by Grievous twice, driven off by Anakin, etc. Her only showing is holding off the Magnaguards, but then, that was also circumstantial because she managed to gain hold of an electrostaff, which is longer and therefore provides her with greater reach/can repel more attacks, and she lacks such a weapon here.

Now, the TFU version does display Beast Control on the sarlacc and possessed the clear edge over Galen Marek in a duel, but especially at that time, Marek was not an impressive duelist and was already losing to the likes of Kazdan Paratus, and was only able to roughly stalemate Kota, both of whom were featless combatants.

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Team 1

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Team 1. Ventress has beaten Luminara in a minute or so, and she would beat Shaak Ti by being better at TK, saber dueling and physically. Barriss would be able to hold out any of them until Ventress kills one of them and then the other gets dogpiled. Team 1 definitely takes this.

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Team 2. Ti and Ventress are pretty close, but Luminara is better than Barriss, more so than any potential edge Ti or Ventress would have over each other -- not to mention Luminara and Ti would have better synergy together.

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Team 2 10/10.

Luminara has matched evenly with Ventress despite being wounded, suggesting that at full capacity she may prove capable of defeating Ventress. Shaak Ti is superior to all 3 combatants, and Bariss has little to suggest she can do much besides barely holding off a restrained Anakin while tapping into her dark side energy.

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Ventress is the mvp t

Team 1

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Team two for sure.

Ventress poses a challenge to either but Barriss is out of her weight class here.

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I think it's funny how 6 years ago it was a question whether or not Shaak could beat Bariss.

Luminara isn't needed. Shaak solos lol.

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Barriss is too much of a weak link. Shaak Ti slaughters her whole Ventress is dealing with Luminara. Ventress gets double teamed

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@richard96: I‘d say medium difficulty as both Shaak and Luminara are a good chunk above Barriss. Asajj will give, whoever she fights, major difficulties until the other one comes in.