@jmarshmallow said:
And that is literally the only showing Roy has ever had that puts him anywhere near Ollie.
Okay, take Arrow for example. Ra's only feat was beating Arrow. Yet Arrow actually has the feats. So is Ra's not actually that good cause he doesn't have the feats of his own?
The difference there being that Ra's has only one feat, and it's beating Ollie. So, since that one feat is all we have to go off of, it's consistent with his character that he's superior to Ollie.
Roy, on the other hand, has a very consistent history of notbeing superior to Ollie. So the one showing where, IIRC, he manages to be a faster shot than Ollie based off a statement, would be inconsistent with his character.
Different circumstances I'm afraid.
@jmarshmallow said:
@nickzambuto said:
@jmarshmallow said:
@allstarsuperman said:
Ollie has directly said that Roy beat him fair and square in an archery contest.
And that is literally the only showing Roy has ever had that puts him anywhere near Ollie.
If Roy is supposed to be a better archer than he's a better archer. People put too much emphasis on feats and not actual capabilities. Whether or not the idea of Roy being a better archer than Oliver is a consistent fact in the comics now, that's a whole different thing.
There's got to be a fine line to that, or else Odin is omnipotent, Juggernaut can't be stopped, and Hulk is the strongest being in existence.
Well he did manage to tag Slade with broken glass to Slades surprise. Using broken glass as a weapon is a feat in itself, but tagging someone like deathstroke is even better. Granted Slade wasn't entirely serious but Slade toying around with Oliver couldn't touch Slade either:
To be totally fair, tagging Slade with a handful of glass from like two feet away is hardly an impressive showing, especially since the attack did literally nothing. Really, you don't need to be a super capable marksman to tag someone, even if that someone is Slade, from such a close distance when you literally have like 10 projectiles to throw at him. One of them was bound to hit him, and it didn't even do any damage.
I'm not talking about statements, I'm talking about capabilities. There is a fine line and it is hard to judge, some things are up to opinion, but in this case going by what allstar is describing, which is Roy beating Oliver in an archery contest and then Oliver coming over and saying Roy must be a better archer than him, it sounds more like a statement of fact than anything else.
IIRC, he didn't actually "beat" Oliver in an archery contest. He just shot his arrow faster than Oliver expected him to and Oliver commented that he might be a better archer.
It's not like they had a head to head competition as far as I remember.
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