#1 Posted by Teen Manatee (359 posts) - - Show Bio

Cissie King-Jones of Young Justice (Let's just say that she went out of retirement for this fight) vs. Mia Dearden, the new Speedy.

#2 Posted by Howler (140 posts) - - Show Bio

I know speedy, so I pick speedy..

#3 Posted by Cats (656 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump 
 
And i'm going with Mia.

#4 Posted by teamextrodinary15 (2234 posts) - - Show Bio

How good are their fighting skills
#5 Edited by Cats (656 posts) - - Show Bio
@teamextrodinary15 said:

" How good are their fighting skills "

I don't know about cissie's fighting skills, but I do no that she was the top gymnast in her school, and that the tournaments she was winning was funding her school. So she's probably more agile than mia. But I believe mia's the better shot between the two.
#6 Posted by teamextrodinary15 (2234 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cats said:
" @teamextrodinary15 said:
" How good are their fighting skills "
I don't know about cissie's fighting skills, but I do no that she was the top gymnast in her school, and that the tournaments she was winning was funding her schools. So she's probably more agile than mia. But I believe mia's the better shot between the two. "

Then im goin to go with Speedy
#7 Edited by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

Arrowette stomp. 
 
She won the olympic gold metal before Mia had ever picked up a bow, beating Artemis Crock aka Tigress (daughter of Huntress and Sportsmaster) and Turk (Merlyn's sidekick) with ease.    
 

 


 


 
 
She could shoot six arrows at the same time and hit bullseyes with all of them, again, before Mia had ever picked up a bow.  Anyone saying Speedy is a better archer than Arrowette has no clue what they're talking about. 
 

 

   
 

   
 
Arrowette is also quite the gymnast.  Mia was stated to have trained in hand to hand but her only feat was getting beat on by Drakon. 
 
Mia would never get close to Cissie and even if she did, I'm not so sure she could take her up close. 
 
  

 


 


And then there's the fact that Cissie has damn near metahuman vision and was more accurate at three years old with weapons she had never used before than Mia is with a bow now. 
 

 

 
 
Like I said.  Arrowette.  Stomp.
#8 Posted by charlieboy (7095 posts) - - Show Bio

arrowette is definitely the better archer.
#9 Posted by goldenshot80 (7303 posts) - - Show Bio

I guess im going to go with everybody. Arrowette wins

#10 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
@goldenshot80 said:
"I guess im going to go with the person who knows what he's talking about, not Cats. Arrowette wins "

Fixed it for you.
#11 Posted by charlieboy (7095 posts) - - Show Bio
@Zoom:
nice yj scans. that was such a great series.
#12 Posted by Cats (656 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol, nice scans. I admit I don't know much about arrowette, (I got most of my info from her from tt comics), I didn't even know she had meta like abilities. I still think Mia has better training, and is overall a much better character, but I guess ill concede defeat, and admit that cissie wins. 
 
(P.S Arrowette is still a stupid name :) )

#13 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cats said:
 
 "I still think Mia has better training, and is overall a much better character"

She hasn't and she's not.  (I own all appearances of both characters and Mark Waid and Peter David are far better writers than Judd Winnick.)
 
Stop talking about things you don't know about.  It makes you look like a moron.
#14 Posted by Cosmic_Falcon (2033 posts) - - Show Bio
@Zoom:  Good post
#15 Edited by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

I kinda want to make a serious arguement for Arrowette being a better character. 
 
 
I kinda want to provide scans of Arrowette's defining moments and show why she was an awesome and unique character. 
 
Then I want to try to do the same for Speedy and show that the only things she's got going for her are her joke that Oliver Queen is obviously Green Arrow and being a token aids awareness platform.
#16 Posted by Cosmic_Falcon (2033 posts) - - Show Bio
@Zoom said:
" I kinda want to make a serious arguement for Arrowette being a better character.   I kinda want to provide scans of Arrowette's defining moments and show why she was an awesome and unique character.  Then I want to try to do the same for Speedy and show that the only things she's got going for her are her joke that Oliver Queen is obviously Green Arrow and being a token aids awareness platform. "
When I saw this thread I thought they were referring to Roy Harper, then I was surprised when you were defending Arrowette.  
I've only read about her in Young Justice so my knowledge of the character is limited. 
#17 Posted by entropy_aegis (15437 posts) - - Show Bio
@Zoom:
Ah but theres one problem,jones has been retired for a while,while mia has been in action .
#18 Posted by TheSavageAssasin (2623 posts) - - Show Bio

I think since Cissie is coming out of retirement for this that Mia takes it,because of the fact that she is fresh and ready and has been out there doing this while Cissie is sitting at home doing nothing and not training.(Most likely.).Though i think if Cissie hasnt been retired and she has been fighting crime during this time she takes it.But out of retirement Cissie Vs. Mia,Mia wins.

#19 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
@entropy_aegis said:

"@Zoom: Ah but theres one problem,jones has been retired for a while,while mia has been in action . "


So? Chronologically, she quit being a superhero like...a year ago and has had several adventures since.
 
 

@TheSavageAssasin said:

"I think since Cissie is coming out of retirement for this that Mia takes it,because of the fact that she is fresh and ready and has been out there doing this while Cissie is sitting at home doing nothing and not training.(Most likely.).Though i think if Cissie hasnt been retired and she has been fighting crime during this time she takes it.But out of retirement Cissie Vs. Mia,Mia wins. "


Ridiculous.  Arrowette was more accurate at age 3 with zero training than Mia is now. 
 
And what training exactly has Mia had?  A bit of off panel training with Green Arrow?  Psh.  It's a plot point that Arrowette trains all the freaking time.  She's an olympic gold medalist.  She didn't just forget her skills because she isn't wearing a mask anymore.
 
   
#20 Edited by entropy_aegis (15437 posts) - - Show Bio

Arrowete wins then i honestly can't think of a single argument in mia's favour  ,and when is arroette coming out of retirement ?