ARROW v. Nolan's Batman

#1 Edited by PunkMastaFlex (3152 posts) - 6 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

Conditions

- Nolan has been watching some Arrow and immediately expressed disdain for Arrow, contemplating that his Batman is the better of the duo in combat. With his almighty omnipotent powers, he orchestrated a fight between these two to occur by manipulating strings of events that lead up to it.

- Batman possesses knowledge on Arrow based on what has been seen in his show when he's out in combat, Arrow possesses knowledge on Batman based on what was seen in Nolan's trilogy when Batman fought against the criminal scum with only intelligence on Batman's gadgets to be batarangs and grapple gun.

- Morals on/in character.

- Arrow has a total of fifteen regular arrows here and one grapple arrow that he uses to move down from buildings, Batman is in possession of ten batarangs, grapple gun, two spiny mini bombs (Batman Begins, used them to break through prison walls), shoe camouflaged bat homing beacon (Batman Begins), and his EMP gun he used in TDKR.

Setting

An abandoned building at the stroke of midnight that appears to be like this:

Arrow starts by walking through the door located on the right of the picture, Batman is located at where the blue monster octopus painting is which is near the middle of the picture, adhere the burgundy coloured pillar/pipe. This entire structure is lighted with a total of four 5 feet by 5 feet ambient lights that hang all over the ceiling.

Who wins?

#2 Posted by Killemall (13500 posts) - 6 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

Arrow has been pretty solid thus far, although his fight with Lawton was very very ordinary to say the least. He has some crazy speed, accuracy feat and looks actually better than his comicbook counter version (at least new 52, not so familiar with pre flashpoint version).

While he doesnt have a prolonged combat feat to speak of yet, to be he's looked more agile, faster, and more rutheless than Batman .

#3 Posted by PunkMastaFlex (3152 posts) - 6 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

Arrow has been pretty solid thus far, although his fight with Lawton was very very ordinary to say the least. He has some crazy speed, accuracy feat and looks actually better than his comicbook counter version (at least new 52, not so familiar with pre flashpoint version).

While he doesnt have a prolonged combat feat to speak of yet, to be he's looked more agile, faster, and more rutheless than Batman .

I agree. Batman does however possesses superior strength, better technology, and is better suited to fight in this setting. Do you believe it's a fair fight?

#4 Posted by Killemall (13500 posts) - 6 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@PunkMastaFlex: I think its a fair fight, and Nolan's Batman being the more popular thing atm, would likely get more votes.

#5 Posted by PunkMastaFlex (3152 posts) - 6 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@PunkMastaFlex: I think its a fair fight, and Nolan's Batman being the more popular thing atm, would likely get more votes.

If this thread would get any votes or debaters that is. :( Should have just made an "Arrow v. Batman, T.v series v. movie version who wins" instead of an in depth, thought out fight.

#6 Posted by 80sBaby (1272 posts) - 6 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

I'd say Batman wins under these conditions. He has better stealth capabilities and will put them to good use, closing in on Arrow to nullify his range advantage. I'd say Batman is the better HtH combatant so he'd take it, more often than not. Won't be easy, though.

#7 Posted by Pokeysteve (3097 posts) - 6 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

I agree with everything Killemall has said so far and would like to add that Arrow seems to be much smarter than Nolan's Bruce Wayne. Ollie's making all his stuff himself and doing all his own detective work.

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#8 Posted by SHAZAM117 (1183 posts) - 6 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

This could potentially be a really good fight. I'm leaning towards Batman tho just based off stealth. He could use his EMP rifle to take out the lights, taking away Ollies' biggest advantage with his bow N'arrow....if it goes h2h I have to give it to Batman as he just has better feats so far, but it's still early in the shows run for Ollie which I'll assume his feats are only going to get better.

#9 Posted by xxxddd (2962 posts) - 6 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Arrow stomps.

Batman is a horrible h2h fighter.

#10 Posted by Skidmore (11 posts) - 6 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Batman was never a horrible h2h fighter, his feats surpass even the greatest MMA fighter in the planet, for a guy in our universe to take on Joker Gang + 2 Swat squads requires very advanced skills.

I give it to Nolan Batman, if he manage to disarm Queen, he is not much a problem, his armor would be too much for queen to get thorugh.

And this shot shows a great feat from bats, he took at 20 thugs at the same time:

#11 Posted by Vaeternus (4000 posts) - 6 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Batman for sure

#12 Posted by BigCimmerian (4351 posts) - 6 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

Batman barely wins, but it could probably go either way.

#13 Posted by Sideslash (5614 posts) - 6 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

I'm tempted to lean more towards Ollie.

#14 Posted by hudyman (1399 posts) - 6 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

Oliver takes this but with some hard work.

He acts like an animal which gives him the advantage against ordinary humans.

Also arrow is on tonight apparently an "Iconic" DC character is making an appearance.

#15 Posted by Pyrogram (10983 posts) - 6 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

@Skidmore: 1 v 1 combat is different from multiple.

#16 Posted by sunhawk (549 posts) - 6 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

Batman wins this

#17 Posted by zackattack529 (1404 posts) - 6 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

THis is a lame battle,

bUT aRROW DEFINITLEY TAKES THIS BATTLE NO PROBLEM.

#18 Posted by Skidmore (11 posts) - 6 months, 23 hours ago - Show Bio
@Pyrogram: Yeah, because it's impossible to anyone in the world to battle more than 4 people at time... I am not understimating Queen, but with armor, Batman is far too effective for Queen.
#19 Posted by PunkMastaFlex (3152 posts) - 5 months, 4 hours ago - Show Bio

Bump.

#20 Posted by Strider92 (11296 posts) - 5 months, 4 hours ago - Show Bio

Arrow

#21 Posted by Deranged Midget (13021 posts) - 5 months, 4 hours ago - Show Bio

I'd be obliged to state that Ollie is the smarter of the two and in fact, far more resourceful due to his survival on the island. He seems to be just as proficient at fighting in the darkness than Bruce is as well as being just as stealthy. His accuracy seems to supersede that of even his comic counterpart as does his combat efficiency in close quarters. Considering the locale and the distance, I'd say Bruce has enough cover to avoid some shots off the bat (heh, no pun intended) but Ollie is just as, if not quicker on his feet than Bruce is and the same goes for the skill in hand-to-hand. The accuracy and long range weaponry garner him the advantage overall as he can easily keep a distance between the two of them.

Fantastic set-up though!

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#22 Posted by PunkMastaFlex (3152 posts) - 5 months, 4 hours ago - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

I'd be obliged to state that Ollie is the smarter of the two and in fact, far more resourceful due to his survival on the island. He seems to be just as proficient at fighting in the darkness than Bruce is as well as being just as stealthy. His accuracy seems to supersede that of even his comic counterpart as does his combat efficiency in close quarters. Considering the locale and the distance, I'd say Bruce has enough cover to avoid some shots off the bat (heh, no pun intended) but Ollie is just as, if not quicker on his feet than Bruce is and the same goes for the skill in hand-to-hand. The accuracy and long range weaponry garner him the advantage overall as he can easily keep a distance between the two of them.

Fantastic set-up though!

Thanks mate. ^^

#23 Posted by Deranged Midget (13021 posts) - 5 months, 4 hours ago - Show Bio

@PunkMastaFlex: Not a problem! I better be seeing some more of these fantastic battles coming from you mate! ;)

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#24 Posted by CitizenBane (19883 posts) - 5 months, 4 hours ago - Show Bio

Ollie. At least as skilled or more so, faster (both in terms of how fast he can hit as well has his reflexes) and he'd have no qualms putting an arrow in Bruce's eye. As of the end of TDKR, Ollie most likely has the better physical stats as well.

#25 Posted by Sovereign91001 (1063 posts) - 5 months, 3 hours ago - Show Bio

Strength: Batman; Batman's proved in my mind to pack more 'umph' behind his punches.

Speed: Ollie; He's dodged arrows after they were fired from about thirty feet away, machine gun fire etc.

Durability: Even; Both of them have shown to take inhuman amounts of punishment, I might give a slight edge to Ollie, even with less armor he can take a beating.

Accuracy: Ollie: Ollie's made so pretty remarkable shots in Arrow, he's almost inhumanly accurate enough so that he'd probablly be able to put an arrow through Bruce's mouth or eye.

Fighting skill: Ollie shown top tier martial art skill; he'd be more willing to fight dirty, his looser morals allow him to use techniques Bruce would be unwilling to employ.

Winner: Ollie

It wouldn't be a clean or easy fight but at the end of the day I think Ollie would win about seven out of ten fights.

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