#1 Posted by ConvenientLie (644 posts) - - Show Bio

In character

No prep

Round 1: No ring

Round 2: With the ring vs the fantastic 4

#2 Edited by jashro44 (20542 posts) - - Show Bio

Arkillo should win round one. Sue is his only problem in round 2.

#3 Edited by New_World_Order (12911 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1- Arkillo stomps

Round 2-Not aure

#4 Edited by dondave (35987 posts) - - Show Bio

Arkillo

#5 Edited by ConvenientLie (644 posts) - - Show Bio

is arkillo stronger than ben

#6 Posted by MonsterStomp (16692 posts) - - Show Bio
#7 Posted by ConvenientLie (644 posts) - - Show Bio
#8 Posted by Shavo (2061 posts) - - Show Bio

arkillo both rounds i think

#9 Edited by comic_book_fan (5539 posts) - - Show Bio

round 1 the thing

round 2 fantastic 4

#10 Posted by JediXMan (30193 posts) - - Show Bio

Arkillo.

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#11 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (11980 posts) - - Show Bio

Arkillo stomps round one. He will beat them in round two ...

#12 Posted by comic_book_fan (5539 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days:

the thing has traded punches with Hyperion gladiator and the destroyer he can hold his own here .

and there is no way he beats the ff.

#13 Edited by Ancient_0f_Days (11980 posts) - - Show Bio

@comic_book_fan said:

@ancient_0f_days:

the thing has traded punches with Hyperion gladiator and the destroyer he can hold his own here .

and there is no way he beats the ff.

oh cus you know what Arkillo is capable of, you've actually seen his feats right, right? I'll bet money that you haven't got a clue what Arkillo is capable of...what is Ben gonna do when he has his ring on, what is Johnny gonna do huh, I bet you think Reeds gonna find a penny an a paperclip along the way and make some ultimate nullifier type weapon out the blue huh...Sue has fears, he will play on them and when she sees her team go down like dominoes she will succumb to her fear and fall .... Arkillo has fought Kyle Rayner, beat him down. Stalemated Kilowog who has gone toe to toe with Superman, Arkillo was beaten by Kilowog dropping an aircraft carrier on him an trapping him, he wasn't knocked out like Sentry was. Alternatively, Arkillo has gone up against one of Superman's bigger threats, Mongul who had a power ring as well. They were almost equal although Mongul won in the end, Mongul is better trained, stronger and more durable than Arkillo anyway so no wonder he lost there...too bad for the Fantastic Four and especially Thing, that there is NO ONE as strong as Superman,Kyle, Kilowog or Mongul there to save their asses. Arkillo would one shot Johnny and pound Ben to dust with no effort at all, Reed is about as useless as it gets and Sue is the only one who even stands a chance but unless she's going around bustin up celestials on a regular basis, she isn't winning here.

Arkillo stomps Ben even without the ring and rolls the entire Fantastic Four with it.

#14 Posted by Hunter_Zolomon (190 posts) - - Show Bio

Arkillo.

#15 Edited by comic_book_fan (5539 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days:

I don't see superman in any of those and I don't see him without a ring in any of those scans the thing has fought and injured superman level beings before.

#17 Posted by JackKnight (2969 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Arkillo but I don't think that easily.

Round 2: depending if the Fantastic 4 are allowed prep, if they are then they win, if not then Arkillo.

#18 Posted by hyperbeing (382 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Arkillo but I don't think that easily.

Round 2: depending if the Fantastic 4 are allowed prep, if they are then they win, if not then Arkillo.

same . though can't johnny go supernova.

#19 Edited by Ancient_0f_Days (11980 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days:

I don't see superman in any of those and I don't see him without a ring in any of those scans the thing has fought and injured superman level beings before.

Superman level beings who were clearly jobbing, get real, he has trouble with Namor and She-Hulk .... as for Superman .... you asked for it....

Arkillo goes head to head with Kilowog and considers him his rival .... Thing isn't going to win H2H .... the Fantastic Four aren't going to win at all .....

#20 Edited by jloneblackheart (5506 posts) - - Show Bio

Fantastic Four ignorance is high in this thread...

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#21 Posted by ConvenientLie (644 posts) - - Show Bio

Fantastic Four ignorance is high in this thread...

could you clear it up for us

#22 Edited by spiderbuck (2452 posts) - - Show Bio

@comic_book_fan said:

round 1 the thing

round 2 fantastic 4

As for round 1, Ben is a H2H specialist. It's all he does, all the time. I think Ben's skill and experience should give him a (very) slight edge here in this fight.

#23 Posted by jloneblackheart (5506 posts) - - Show Bio

@convenientlie: Sure.

Thing is consistently shown as one of the greatest powerhouses in the Marvel universe. Even where he lacks the strength (over 100 tons) and durability, he makes up for it in heart. The Thing has gone toe to toe with virtually every big hitter in the Marvel universe (including the Hulk multiple times, of which I know of no concrete winner declared in an occasion). You know, the same Hulk who was just voted as overwhelmingly defeating Arkillo in the recent poll, with a ring.

Arkillo is awesome. He's a badass with great strength and ability. He has done nothing to show me he would finish off the Thing (who is rarely KOed in the first place). I've seen nothing to show me he has the same strength level as Ben, especially without his ring. So he punched Superman once and he flew through space (you know, where there is no gravity). Big deal. He fought Mongul and had a good showing. He also got his tongue ripped out. Ben takes the fight, especially if Arkillo is without the ring.

I don't know how to even fathom the idea that people think one Lantern (of any type) would defeat the Fantastic Four, who regularly deal with opponents of equal or far greater power. The Fantastic Four protect the universe (and multiverse) much like the GLC does against major crises... except it's just the four of them. Anyone who thinks Arkillo takes them all out just has an extreme bias, no knowledge of the FF whatsoever, or simply dislikes the Fantastic Four.

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#24 Edited by jloneblackheart (5506 posts) - - Show Bio

So basically, Round one is somewhat debatable. I'd give Thing 10/10. I've seen nothing to show Arkillo having better strength, durability or fighting ability than Thing.

Round 2 is a stomp for the FF. If you made an Arkillo vs the Fantastic Four thread, I would lock it for spite.

A better Round 2 would be Arkillo with the ring. At least that might give him some advantages in the fight.

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#25 Posted by comic_book_fan (5539 posts) - - Show Bio
#26 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (11980 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days:

superman was clearly jobbing see that works both ways.

Too bad you can't prove it .... I can say Hyperion has better feats than thing especially since he stalemated Gladiator who'd flip Ben like a pancake, She-Hulk did, Hulk always does .... Superman however has trouble fighting elite Lantern's regularly, like how he had trouble with John Stewart, Hal Jordan, Sinestro etc ... Kilowog is up there with them and is physically stronger than they are as he focuses most of his power towards physical assault ... Arkillo is the exact same way for the most part and has shown to be a physical equal to Kilowog. Superman wasn't really trying to fight, he was trying to reason, but none the less, he wouldn't get knocked back and stepped on if Kilowog wasn't strong enough to do the job. Arkillo has done the same to Kilowog and was doing the same to Mongul but wasn't strong enough in the end cus Mongul is on a slightly higher level .... So no, it doesn't work both ways, but nice to see just how well you can debate...you could be president one day.

#27 Posted by Sovereign91001 (4180 posts) - - Show Bio

R1: Ben

R2: FF

#28 Posted by comic_book_fan (5539 posts) - - Show Bio
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#30 Posted by ForeverEvil (4788 posts) - - Show Bio

Arkillo with ring

#31 Edited by patrat18 (9446 posts) - - Show Bio