Arkhamverse Batman vs. Arrow & Movie Black Widow

Round 1: H2H
Round 2: Regular gear
Who wins ?

Batman could be Bruce Wayne and do it handcuffed and still stomp.

Batman stomps!

Then let's add Hawkeye to the team

He could take on a hundred hawk eyes and still stomp.

@capedcrusader16: still a stomp

I wouldn't call this exactly a stomp, but he can disrupt Black Widow's guns and close the gap between him and GA easily. He wins, but not exactly a stomp.

BATMAN!

Round 1: Batman

Round 2: Quite the toss up. But I think the Team wins.

@jameskm716: How would they be able to beat him in round 2?

@batman242: Guns, Arrows, various equipments they have.

Both Black Widow and Arrow are incredibly skilled, either could fight Arkhamverse Batman without losing every match. Together they should be able to win.

Akrhamverse Batman's gear nullifies the guns, and he can quickfire the REC gun at GA and close the gap. I don't see them winning in either round.

@batman242: No he still takes damage from guns, i've been killed many a time from that.

He could quickfire the REC gun at Arrow, or maybe he wont and Arrow will dodge. Black Widow could shoot him in teh mouth, or Arrow could arrow him anywhere really.

THere's just so many variables.

The other problem is taht becuase we never see Batman's abilities in a cutscene, we don't know his full capabilities or weaknesses. Technically he doesn't have any feats.

We don't know how he'd handle facing two esteemed marksmen who are also incredibly competent hand to hand specialists. the only time i remember him going up against a good marksmen is Deadshot where Batman hides the entire time. Now while Arrow and Black Widow aren't quite on Deadshot's level they aren't far from it. Close enough that having two should be more than enough.

I don't see Batman being able to defeat Black Widow and Arrow at the same time. In hand to hand sure, but Batman won't be able to defeat both while evading their guns/arrows. There's far too many variables for Batman to take a majority IMO

Yes there aren't any cutscene feats to say how much he can do. All we have are gameplay mechanics, so we can base the arguments off of that. Batman is bulletproof to a degree. And seeing as Black Widow has guns, and is a good shot, I see no reason for him NOT to disrupt her guns and leave her open to H2H only.

The OP didn't say how far they start from each other, so you don't know much of an advantage either of them have or know where they're fighting.

Batman has smoke pellets that he can drop on the ground and has the Batclaw to reel them in close. He also has Freeze Cluster grenades to immobilize them for a moment.

Green Arrow is the only problem in this match. Black Widow is a non-factor basically.

Video game battles are never a good idea. All depends on the player.

@pokeysteve: No they aren't. And me, personally, would stomp them both silly as Batman.

That would be gameplay mechanics.

Batman wins both rounds.

Except that gameplay never counts when it comes to feats. Gameplay lets us know that Batman has the various weapons, but we don't know what style of combat he'd choose upon not being under the player's control.

Batman is not bulletproof. Except Black Widow should be faster than Batman and it'll be incredibly difficult to "disrupt her guns"

They start twenty feet away I believe if the OP doesn't state.

He has lots of equipment but i doubt ARrow and Widow will give him the time to use it.

How on earth if a super talented, peak human with expert marksmenship skills, fantastic hand to hand abilities, electrical gadgets and great speed a "non-factor".

I will concede that Arkhamverse Batman vs Arrow would result in Batman winning 8/10 and Batman vs Widow would be Batman winning 8/10. But Batman vs the combined duo has no chance of taking a majority; his opponents are far too skilled.

Batman never takes down anyone of huge skill on his own in the Arkham games so far. The best I can think of is Ra's al Ghul. Who is defeated in a hallucination sequence that cannot count as feats.

Show me evidence that Batman is better than Widow and Arrow. You haven't so far. So do better.

@jameskm716:

1. I agree with that statement, but the fact that there are NO cutscene feats for Batman to prove what he's done or can really do, we have to use gameplay mechanics because it is where we see everything he CAN do.

2. I said he was bulletproof to a degree. Taking a shot from Two-Face.

3. If it's 20 feet, I see no problem in Batman being able to win.

4. "Give him the time to use it"? You do realize he has quickfire weapons? Like the Batarangs, the REC gun, the Batclaw, smoke pellets.....

5. Because, the man they're up against has taken down rooms filled with thugs, armored thugs, thugs jacked up on Titan and assassins from the League of Shadows. He also has the auto-counter technique. Let me remind you that he has no cutscene feats, so all we have are gameplay mechanics. And if you wanna ignore the gameplay, you may as well not debate on it at all, because he'd have nothing to be able to beat them.

6. I'll just shoot that down by saying, Disruptor, auto-counter, quickfire gadgets.

7. That does sort of count as a feat. He wasn't exactly dreaming, that was Ra's' spirit.

8. Gameplay mechanics. Stomping a room full of robots, a room full of assassins, beating Ra's Al Ghul in god-like spirit mode, beating a Joker jacked-up on Titan, beating Mr. Hammer and Mr. Sickle, beating Mr. Freeze and defeating Solomon Grundy (although this one needed a plot).

There's no point in continuing this discussion.

We have reported facts of what Batman in Arkham has done, but nothing to speculate how he would act in this situation. Because he has this equipment doesn't mean he will necessarily use it. Gameplay mechanics do not, have not, and will not count as feats. That's how the battle forums work, so really this whole argument is pointless.