Archangel vs Captain America

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#1  Edited By Edgeworth_11

Fight starts at the statue of liberty. Cap is inside and Archangel is flying and around and they see each other. Blood lust is on.
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#2  Edited By velle37

Good batlle......... 
 
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#3  Edited By EpitomeofCool

I see archcangel winning here...

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#4  Edited By velle37
@EpitomeofCool said:
"I see archcangel winning here... "

Me too.......
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#5  Edited By Edgeworth_11
@velle37:
it is isn't it? my money is on warren but stll it is an intriguing battle
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#6  Edited By Edgeworth_11

not that i disagree just wanted some input ^^
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#7  Edited By ScipioAfricanus

Good fight. Seeing as Cap is inside Warren won't be able to attack from distance. He'll have to go up close and take Cap face to face. Considering Caps ability with his shield, fighting skills and resourcefulness I can see him taking this one but it won't be easy.

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#8  Edited By whacknasty

Hmm.... 
 
Well, Steve has the reaction/battle speed feats to counter any of Warren's projectiles I would think.  Also to redirect or block any diving wing attacks... I'm seeing Warren growing impatient since he is blood lusted and coming down to ground level, trying to get in close for a dismemberment/decapitation. Steve would then use the appropriate counters and break Warren down at the limbs, then perhaps off with the bird man's head... 
 
Or maybe I'm giving Cap his usual huge amount of fanboy respect...lol

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#9  Edited By velle37
@ScipioAfricanus said:
"Good fight. Seeing as Cap is inside Warren won't be able to attack from distance. He'll have to go up close and take Cap face to face. Considering Caps ability with his shield, fighting skills and resourcefulness I can see him taking this one but it won't be easy. "

i was thinking the same thing... 
 
Steve's position gives him an advantage......
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#10  Edited By texasdeathmatch

How durable is Archangel?

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#11  Edited By Edgeworth_11

lets not forget warren a healing factor that rivals wolverines. also, his projectiles would destroy th statue if caps decided to stay inside.

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#12  Edited By ScipioAfricanus
@Edgeworth_11:  His healing factor is good but it is not Wolverines level by a longshot unless I'm very much mistaken. Any scans/feats to show otherwise?
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#13  Edited By Manchine

I see Cap Winning this.  I don't see any way Archangel can win this outside getting lucky.

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#14  Edited By Edgeworth_11

he had his feather wings ripped out and they grew back instantly. he seemes to be in little to no discomfort.
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#15  Edited By Mercy_

He's used his blood to bring others (Jubilee IIRC) back from death or the brink of it. I don't know if he's ever applied it to himself to that extent. 

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#16  Edited By whacknasty
@Edgeworth_11 said:
" lets not forget warren a healing factor that rivals wolverines. also, his projectiles would destroy th statue if caps decided to stay inside. "
Really? I always thought they were more like throwing knives, nothing that would destroy a huge marble/stone structure? Or are they charged in some way?
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#17  Edited By ScipioAfricanus
@Edgeworth_11:  Was that in X-Force?
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#18  Edited By Edgeworth_11

yes it was in Xforce.  
also i am sure i have seen his blow things up but i will check. either way, his wings i reckon can destroy the building.
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#19  Edited By ScipioAfricanus
@Edgeworth_11:  Thats not really an example of his healing factor. He had his feather wings ripped off as Angel and was KO'd on the floor. He was unconscious for a while and then began to transform into Archangel. He was in such pain that Wolverine and Warpath where having trouble holding him down and X-23 even commented he was in such pain he could kill himself. That was a transformation not healing power.
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#20  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

With blood lust, Archangel should win. With morals, Cap wins.

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#21  Edited By ScipioAfricanus

Also I've never seen anything from his wings which suggest they can destroy a building. The feathers he shoots are dangerous but knock down the Statue of Liberty? I doubt it.

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#22  Edited By goldenshot80
@EpitomeofCool said:
" I see archcangel winning here... "
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#23  Edited By nefarious

Archangel wins.

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#24  Edited By (((Prodigy)))
@ScipioAfricanus said:
" Also I've never seen anything from his wings which suggest they can destroy a building. The feathers he shoots are dangerous but knock down the Statue of Liberty? I doubt it. "
There was that one time he flew straight through the skull of some ginormous dinosaur-like monster. 
I'm trying to find a scan of it...
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#25  Edited By PirateKing69
@(((Prodigy))): this one?
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#26  Edited By (((Prodigy)))
@PirateKing69:  
Yeah, that's it. 
Thanks.
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#27  Edited By jayskee

archangel
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#28  Edited By Silver2467
@(((Prodigy))) said: 
There was that one time he flew straight through the skull of some ginormous dinosaur-like monster. I'm trying to find a scan of it... "
There was also the time he flew straight through a plane and blew it up. 
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#29  Edited By Edgeworth_11

Archangel takes this I have to say.
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#30  Edited By TheFlash4740

What Can Archangel do? Seriously tell me. 
 
Cap is fast enough to Parry his dive attacks, His by far skilled enough to hit him with his shield, If he can Bounce if off 3 Trees and hit a person, he can hit Archangel i can imagine.
 
Warren has to get inside to hurt him, and unless im missing something on him, Cap is the Better fighter and Tactician.  He has shown to dodge bullets, so i assume he can dodge his Projectiles
 
If He Dive Bombs him, I could Seriously see Steve Catching him and using his momentum to Throw him on the ground, He is trained in Judo after all.

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#31  Edited By (((Prodigy)))
@TheFlash4740:   

Cap is fast enough to Parry his dive attacks  


 
Even for someone as strong as Cap, it's pretty tough to 'parry' something that weighs 200+ pounds and is flying at you at speeds that comic panels usually depict as blurs.  
 

His by far skilled enough to hit him with his shield, If he can Bounce if off 3 Trees and hit a person, he can hit Archangel i can imagine.   


 
That's still pretty chancy. Warren is well-known for being one of the most agile flyers in the Marvel U.  
On top of that, I believe his wings are easily capable of shielding him from Cap's shield if it is used as a projectile.   
 

Warren has to get inside to hurt him  


 
Or he could take a few minutes to rip the Statue of Liberty in half with his wings.  
 

so i assume he can dodge his Projectiles  


 
Warren can fling dozens of projectiles simultaneously in a giant barrage. If he does that, Cap will have to have his shield with him to avoid getting hit.    
 

If He Dive Bombs him, I could Seriously see Steve Catching him and using his momentum to Throw him on the ground, He is trained in Judo after all.  


 
Like I said before, Warren is one of the very most agile flyers in the Marvel world. He doesn't get thrown around easily.  
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#32  Edited By madrid_san

an example of warrens healing factor is in X-force (not uncanny x force) logan, to get warren to focus on the job at hand, stabbed him through his back, through his chest and warren was just shocked that logan stabbed him and didnt seem to be in any pain at all as in the next panel he is seen trying to control surge who's powers were going haywire because she was infected with the legacy virus. 
 
I go with warren for the win. he'd chop the statue in half and force cap out.
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#33  Edited By TheFlash4740
@(((Prodigy))):  NO! STEVE WINS! 
 
lol nah Im jk, No one was seeming to give any reasons for why their respective person would win. So i just thought id give my 2 cents to see what people actually thought.
 
I could see both winning in their own specific circumstances
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#34  Edited By (((Prodigy)))
@TheFlash4740 said:
" @(((Prodigy))):  NO! STEVE WINS!   lol nah Im jk, No one was seeming to give any reasons for why their respective person would win. So i just thought id give my 2 cents to see what people actually thought.  I could see both winning in their own specific circumstances "
To be honest, I haven't even picked a side in this fight. I don't think I've seen enough of Archangel's feats to really be confident about who wins.
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#35  Edited By madrid_san

plus his wings can withstand machine gun fire, flame attacks by pyro ect so I agree that he can withstand caps shield.
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#36  Edited By PowerHerc

 
Cap wins.  
 
Archangel isn't even close to being a good enough combatant to take Cap out.  Not even with his projectiles.
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Even if Cap is forced out in the open to confront Arch. What feats does Arch have to justify tagging Cap with his razor feather wing, things? I somehow doubt these projectiles are harder to keep track of than bullets. Which Cap made a career out of dodging, deflecting, etc. It what then, becomes a stalemate? Because Cap ain't gonna get tired or fatigued because of the serum. From my knowledge Cap has better accuracy feats throwing his shield than Warren does with his wings.

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#38  Edited By THUNDERBOLT30

I am leaning more toward Cap due to having a better tactical acumen than Warren. I can see Cap having a more clean win if he could lure Archangel inside more so than outside where a bloodlusted Warren can take advantage of his top flight speeds, and aerial maneuverability. I think he is fast and agile enough in the air to evade Cap's shield throws. 
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#39  Edited By Edgeworth_11

I go with majority here. Cap tries to throw his shield at him, misses, than loses it. Daggered to death and sliced in half. Warren wins.