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#1 Posted by Th3 FlAsH 123 (616 posts) - - Show Bio

Situation 1: On land 
Situation 2: In the ocean
#2 Posted by JThree47693 (2538 posts) - - Show Bio

Situation 1: Wonder Woman 
Situation 2: How good is Diana as a swimmer?
#3 Posted by Sleuth (2664 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman should take this without much trouble in both scenarios. Even in the ocean, she still has the huge speed advantage.

#4 Posted by Th3 FlAsH 123 (616 posts) - - Show Bio

They're similar in strength (at least in the ocean) but I thought Aquaman might be faster in the ocean, but i could be wrong.
#5 Posted by King Saturn (223834 posts) - - Show Bio
1. Wonder Woman wins 
 
2. Wonder Woman wins... but Barely
#6 Posted by BillyBonzo (418 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Women takes both 

#7 Posted by Ellocobruja (559 posts) - - Show Bio

Which Aquaman 
Water Hand? 
Angry Hook Hand? 
Standard Aquman.
#8 Posted by xan84 (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

WW is about in strength as Superman so my question is when was the last time Aquaman helped pull the earth ? 
In the water WW is way faster then Aquaman she has near light speed his got what ? super swim speed ? lol
Diana wins preaty easy in both scenarious ...
#9 Posted by NightFang (9904 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Saturn said:
"1. Wonder Woman wins 
 
2. Wonder Woman wins... but Barely "
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#10 Posted by TruePwnge (2764 posts) - - Show Bio
@JThree47693 said:
" How good is Diana as a swimmer? "
not good enough to stop Aquaman from calling 5000 sea creatures for firepower support or fast enough to stop him entering her mind and giving her a seizure
Aquaman seems to be evolving into a telepathy dude with feats that can stomp her
#11 Posted by xan84 (4286 posts) - - Show Bio
@TruePwnge said:
" @JThree47693 said:
" How good is Diana as a swimmer? "
not good enough to stop Aquaman from calling 5000 sea creatures for firepower support or fast enough to stop him entering her mind and giving her a seizure Aquaman seems to be evolving into a telepathy dude with feats that can stomp her "

She has no need to swim .... she can fly ... And what are some fish going to do to WW ?? Also she can grab him and fly him in space BFR. Again when was the last time he helped pull a planet and can keep up with some1 as fast as Flash ....
#12 Edited by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
@Th3 FlAsH 123 said:

" They're similar in strength (at least in the ocean)

They aren't. Aquaman may be stronger in the ocean, but he's still outclassed by Wonder Woman either way.
#13 Posted by JThree47693 (2538 posts) - - Show Bio

I give both to Wonder Woman
#14 Posted by LiquidSnakeZero (104 posts) - - Show Bio
Isn't Wonder Woman like crafted from clay? I was reading this JUSTICE comic book and she was like falling apart and dying. So wouldn't Aquaman seriously destroy her in the water? He is under estimated all the time. I haven't found any scans but i've heard on more then one occasion he lifted Atlantis. 
 
Besides he can venture to the depths of the Ocean. So his body can withstand thousands of tons of pressure per square inch. Wouldn't he rip her apart like paper? 
 
In scenerio 1 he could win simply because he has the strength and is developing into a strong telepath. 
 
In scenerio 2 he would win with ease. 
 
Plus if this is the Aquaman with the Lady of The Lake water hand then he could easily crush and or drown her.
#15 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
@LiquidSnakeZero said:
" Isn't Wonder Woman like crafted from clay? I was reading this JUSTICE comic book and she was like falling apart and dying.
She was crafted from clay, but was given life (and flesh) by Gods. She's not going to fall apart in water, because she's not 'clay'.
 
@LiquidSnakeZero said:
"So wouldn't Aquaman seriously destroy her in the water? He is under estimated all the time. I haven't found any scans but i've heard on more then one occasion he lifted Atlantis.  
He's still outclassed in water. She pulled 1/3 of the Earth's weight. That > Atlantis.
 
@LiquidSnakeZero said:
" In scenerio 1 he could win simply because he has the strength and is developing into a strong telepath. 

He' s not strong enough, though. He's physically outclassed in everything else too...
 
@LiquidSnakeZero said:
"In scenerio 2 he would win with ease. 

 The outcome would be the same. 
 
@LiquidSnakeZero said:
"Plus if this is the Aquaman with the Lady of The Lake water hand then he could easily crush and or drown her. "

He would still lose with it. She moves and reacts faster than he does. She's gonna KO him before he can even think to use it.
#16 Posted by aranido (19 posts) - - Show Bio

 Situation 1: On land
I will have to give it to AQUAMAN using his telephatic and magic in his hand.

 Situation 2: In the ocean 

Aquaman will destroy her in the water.  
he lifted Atlantis. He is in his element pluss he can call anyone in there. Wonder woman can not breath under water.
he could easily crush and or drown her.

#17 Posted by Nighthunter (28580 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a way better fight than most people give it credit for. Hook aquaman was able to stomp the JLE (with Wonder Woman) outside water quite easily on his own and he is even more dangerous in water.

#18 Posted by velle37 (6043 posts) - - Show Bio

WW both rounds.....
#19 Posted by Pokeysteve (8104 posts) - - Show Bio

Which Wonder Woman? The one most of us miss or the current one?

#20 Posted by UltraHeroix (154 posts) - - Show Bio

I say Wonder Woman for both rounds but the second round would be very difficult for her.

#21 Posted by Sausageconhuevos (2 posts) - - Show Bio

This has already happened :3 http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source;=web&cd;=1&ved;=0CCsQtwIwAA&url;=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DpGW7BkKlqgM&ei;=dtiMUJSvNuKYyAHT_4GoDw&usg;=AFQjCNFqg2adOe5NWqqe55x9rEwS6GJyrQ Aquaman's the shit :D

#22 Posted by aranido (19 posts) - - Show Bio

I think you guys are totally wrong. Aquaman is faster and stronger in his element (Water) than WW. Sorry guys, cuz WW has a huge fan club :).

Aquaman already took WW down more than one time : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGW7BkKlqgM

Now in Land, probably is goes either way.....

:)

#23 Posted by BlackWind (5639 posts) - - Show Bio

On land, definitely Wonder Woman. Underwater, Aquaman, especially if he drags/lures her a few miles beneath the surface.

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#24 Posted by The_Thunderer (2894 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlackWind said:

On land, definitely Wonder Woman. Underwater, Aquaman just

#25 Edited by comicfan11 (740 posts) - - Show Bio

Preboot.

WW on land

AQ in the ocean

Postboot

WW on land

AQ in the ocean.

And If someone could provide even a single swimming feat for WW would be appreciated.

The faster I have seen her swim was in some Golden Age comic where she was "swifter than dolphins" or smthing.

Because she has no feats whatsoever to suggest she can keep up with AQ underwater who has feats like 10000 feet per second preboot and hypersonic (between Mach 5 and Mach 10) speed postboot.

Unless someone can provide an actual on panel feat, her swimming speed is just speculation (due to her flying speed which is granted by Hermes, i don't recall Poseidon blessing her in a similar way)

#26 Posted by 18hunt (2891 posts) - - Show Bio

@aranido said:

I think you guys are totally wrong. Aquaman is faster and stronger in his element (Water) than WW. Sorry guys, cuz WW has a huge fan club :).

Aquaman already took WW down more than one time : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGW7BkKlqgM

Now in Land, probably is goes either way.....

:)

LIKE A BOSS

#27 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman takes both most likely.

#28 Posted by rolldestroyer (3508 posts) - - Show Bio

wonder woman both rounds

#29 Posted by lilben42 (2498 posts) - - Show Bio
#30 Posted by Pokeysteve (8104 posts) - - Show Bio

@aranido said:

I think you guys are totally wrong. Aquaman is faster and stronger in his element (Water) than WW. Sorry guys, cuz WW has a huge fan club :).

Aquaman already took WW down more than one time : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGW7BkKlqgM

Now in Land, probably is goes either way.....

:)

I'm going to take the smiley face to mean you're kidding.

@comicfan11 said:

Preboot.

WW on land

AQ in the ocean

Postboot

WW on land

AQ in the ocean.

And If someone could provide even a single swimming feat for WW would be appreciated.

The faster I have seen her swim was in some Golden Age comic where she was "swifter than dolphins" or smthing.

Because she has no feats whatsoever to suggest she can keep up with AQ underwater who has feats like 10000 feet per second preboot and hypersonic (between Mach 5 and Mach 10) speed postboot.

Unless someone can provide an actual on panel feat, her swimming speed is just speculation (due to her flying speed which is granted by Hermes, i don't recall Poseidon blessing her in a similar way)

Why are you so focused on speed? She killed Poseidon's son underwater which was his element. She only needs to get her hands on him.

#31 Edited by comicfan11 (740 posts) - - Show Bio

@lilben42: An issue (WW story that had most of the JL slightly jobbing) where she had one sided prep against the JLA and none of the members even expected her to act like this. GL even asks what's happening after she attacks him once. So it's basically WW against people who don't fight back because they think she went nuts.

Proves nothing, apart from the next scan where AQ breaks free from her grapple.

He has tanked her punches before (Aquaman #16) when he took on the entire JL at the time.

#32 Edited by comicfan11 (740 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pokeysteve:

I'm focused on speed (where AQ has a huge advantage in the sea) because he only needs to be faster than WW to win with the Trident.

As for Triton. A few points.

The Triton WW killed was depowered from Poseidon after his treachery. Forgot to mention that?

On the other hand AQ beat Triton in a straight fight when Triton was still a Godling. That same Triton was stronger than WW as shown in Aquaman Annual (year one) when he abducted WW from Paradise Island and she was only saved by Aquaman.

And in the Triton story WW used a breathing device also, which would make thing much easier for AQ.

And I'm still waiting for a single WW swimming feat.

#33 Posted by Evil Incarnate (3749 posts) - - Show Bio

Does Diana still posses super speed?

#34 Posted by logy5000 (5655 posts) - - Show Bio

WW easily.

#35 Posted by charlieboy (7153 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Diana wins this.

#36 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@logy5000 said:

WW easily.

#37 Posted by Pokeysteve (8104 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicfan11 said:

@Pokeysteve:

I'm focused on speed (where AQ has a huge advantage in the sea) because he only needs to be faster than WW to win with the Trident.

As for Triton. A few points.

The Triton WW killed was depowered from Poseidon after his treachery. Forgot to mention that?

On the other hand AQ beat Triton in a straight fight when Triton was still a Godling. That same Triton was stronger than WW as shown in Aquaman Annual (year one) when he abducted WW from Paradise Island and she was only saved by Aquaman.

And in the Triton story WW used a breathing device also, which would make thing much easier for AQ.

And I'm still waiting for a single WW swimming feat.

When was he depowered? I didn't forget I just didn't know. I don't remember them referencing that in the 2-parter from her 2nd volume. I haven't read the Aquaman annual issue so I can't comment on that either. With the breathing device I think it's implied she'll be fine underwater. It's about the fighting. Like when battle locations are in space or any other non-breathable place.

I still don't see why you'd need a swimming feat. She's fast enough to block a blitz from Superman. That should be enough to handle anything Aquaman can do.

#38 Posted by comicfan11 (740 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pokeysteve: It was mentioned in the AQ comics If I remember correctly that Triton was stripped from his "godhood" or smthing along those lines.

Also I want a speed feat because her speed is granted by Hermes. That doesn't translate to swimming speed automatically. In the same way that AQ is superfast on land but nowhere near as fast as he is in water.

Translating her land and flying speed to automatic Aquaman level speed underwater is completely speculative and not supported by the character's (WW) history.

It's like me saying that because AQ has Mach 5 speed swimming he automatically can move that fast on land.

And the point is that because AQ is definitely faster underwater he can take WW out with the trident.

And this is not counting anything that he can summon to distract her.

Plus for people unconvinced that WW and AQ are closer to strength than most think there is also the Flashpoint fight (apart from the JL 15 brief fight) where AQ had the advantage underwater and then was defeating WW on land (before she was saved by Captain Thunder).

And Flashpoint for the duration of the event WAS the main DCU. It was the same characters with the same powers, but with some changed events due to Zoom. But AQ and WW still had the same powers.

#39 Posted by comicfan11 (740 posts) - - Show Bio

@Evil Incarnate: She has the "bullet deflecting" speed and 2 running feats in her series I believe. And some nice jumping feats also. But nothing so far like her Preboot self where she could tag the Flash or was thought to be faster reflex wise than Supes.

#40 Posted by Evil Incarnate (3749 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicfan11 said:

@Pokeysteve: It was mentioned in the AQ comics If I remember correctly that Triton was stripped from his "godhood" or smthing along those lines.

Also I want a speed feat because her speed is granted by Hermes. That doesn't translate to swimming speed automatically. In the same way that AQ is superfast on land but nowhere near as fast as he is in water.

Translating her land and flying speed to automatic Aquaman level speed underwater is completely speculative and not supported by the character's (WW) history.

It's like me saying that because AQ has Mach 5 speed swimming he automatically can move that fast on land.

And the point is that because AQ is definitely faster underwater he can take WW out with the trident.

And this is not counting anything that he can summon to distract her.

Plus for people unconvinced that WW and AQ are closer to strength than most think there is also the Flashpoint fight (apart from the JL 15 brief fight) where AQ had the advantage underwater and then was defeating WW on land (before she was saved by Captain Thunder).

And Flashpoint for the duration of the event WAS the main DCU. It was the same characters with the same powers, but with some changed events due to Zoom. But AQ and WW still had the same powers.

Many would actually claim that to PIS/CIS. He had a good showing against someone who regularly does things out of his strength league. Most woudln't take this as standard.

#41 Edited by comicfan11 (740 posts) - - Show Bio

@Evil Incarnate: I disagree of course since AQ has beaten multiple class 100 (going by Marvel's standards) characters before.

One of them being Olympian, AKA Greek Superman. AQ beat him in h2h out of water.

Also the Deep Six who have been on panel stated to be in "Superman's class".

And Triton who had already been shown to be at least in WW's class.

The list goes on.

Just because people are more familiar with WW feats does not make AQ's any less valid.

And the fight in Flashpoint is further in accordance with AQ's fight in JL 15. Written by the same writer (Johns) who is the main "architect" of the entire DCU.

It doesn't get more valid than that.

#42 Posted by TheTmac (472 posts) - - Show Bio

Could he drown WW in round 2?

#43 Posted by comicfan11 (740 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheTmac: Until there is proof that WW can breath (not hold her breath) underwater, theoretically yes.

#44 Posted by Essentialtonystark (17 posts) - - Show Bio

Think that Wonder Woman wins in both battles

#45 Posted by Om4zd (920 posts) - - Show Bio

WW takes 1

Aquaman takes 2

#46 Posted by BlackWind (5639 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicfan11: Didn't Wonder Woman used to have earrings in the Silver Age from Poseidon that allowed her to breathe underwater?

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#47 Posted by comicfan11 (740 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlackWind: This must have been discontinued since there are multiple occasions where she needs a breathing device.

#48 Posted by BlackWind (5639 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicfan11: Just Silver Age silliness.

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#49 Edited by spiderbuck (2449 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicfan11 said:

@Pokeysteve: It was mentioned in the AQ comics If I remember correctly that Triton was stripped from his "godhood" or smthing along those lines.

Also I want a speed feat because her speed is granted by Hermes. That doesn't translate to swimming speed automatically. In the same way that AQ is superfast on land but nowhere near as fast as he is in water.

Translating her land and flying speed to automatic Aquaman level speed underwater is completely speculative and not supported by the character's (WW) history.

It's like me saying that because AQ has Mach 5 speed swimming he automatically can move that fast on land.

And the point is that because AQ is definitely faster underwater he can take WW out with the trident.

And this is not counting anything that he can summon to distract her.

Plus for people unconvinced that WW and AQ are closer to strength than most think there is also the Flashpoint fight (apart from the JL 15 brief fight) where AQ had the advantage underwater and then was defeating WW on land (before she was saved by Captain Thunder).

And Flashpoint for the duration of the event WAS the main DCU. It was the same characters with the same powers, but with some changed events due to Zoom. But AQ and WW still had the same powers.

WOW. Damn good showing for Aquaman!!

Still going with WW on land for the majority.

In water, no doubt AM in takes it.

#50 Posted by Outside_85 (8179 posts) - - Show Bio

In a book not written by Geoff Johns, Wonder Woman, both rounds.