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#1  Edited By lord_galactus

Aquaman vs Superman,Shazam,Wonder woman and hal jordan. (team is new 52)

Aquaman has waged war and is bloodlusted

Water hand : On

New 52 trident : On

has the army of Atlantis behind him.

Legendary ocean beast : The Kraken - activated

Fight is until death,morals are off.

Does the justice league stop this force?

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#3  Edited By reaverlation

Arthur maybe as Hal is the only threat.I'll side JL because of Hal

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Morals off Superman Solos.

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@shawnbaby: No he doesn't. Arthur with the water hand will be hard for Superman to put down especially if Arthur just turns into water,making Clark's attacks useless while Arthur can TP Superman to take down his team.If it weren't for Hal,Arthur wins this

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Water is kinda aquamans thing so I can see him winning this especially with an army.

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#7  Edited By Shawnbaby

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@shawnbaby: No he doesn't. Arthur with the water hand will be hard for Superman to put down especially if Arthur just turns into water,making Clark's attacks useless while Arthur can TP Superman to take down his team.If it weren't for Hal,Arthur wins this

If Arthur turns to water...Superman turns that water into Ice. Or uses Heat Vision to turn him into Steam.

Not too mention that he can just Speedblitz Arthur before he can even turn to water.

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@shawnbaby: aquaman is faster when surrounded by water/in water than superman is and arthur can take anything superman throws at him anyway.

i'm tired of aquaman being lowballed around here,with the force of the kraken he could sink entire cities into the ocean.


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@shawnbaby: With the water hand,Arthur can be anywhere on Earth that has a water source like the ocean.From there he can TP Superman,Diana,or Shazam to make them part of his team.Even Clark's speedblitz,which won't be as effective as Clark isn't as fast as his Pre 52 counterpart and Arthur is very durable as he's taken hits from the heavy hitters of the JLA like Diana and J'onn without trouble and is fast himself.

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#10  Edited By Beware_My_Power

@reaverlation: when I try to explain this to my friends they just say that batman makes a nuke from a tweezer and a pair of socks, and kills Arthur :P

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@reaverlation: defending a hero not only underrated, but also made fun of by the general public is not an easy task... :D

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Superman uses his heat vision to boil the ocean.

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#14  Edited By lord_galactus

@beware_my_power: as arthur would fight for atlantis,i will fight the fanboys for aquaman lol!

FOR ATLANTIS!

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@evil_incarnate: STOP! superman would pass out before he boiled the entire ocean and kraken would smack him possibly ko'ing him before that happened.

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#16  Edited By dondave

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#18  Edited By lord_galactus

@evil_incarnate: his heat vision drains him of solar energy faster than anything else he uses.

It always has that's why he doesn't just go around using it in every fight and if he uses it to a severe extent he usually needs a few seconds to recover,like flash when uses abnormal high speeds for more than 2 minutes.

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#19  Edited By Jgames

Nice April fool battle, JLA wins

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they get tired and become vulnerable when exerting so much energy and power at once in such a small period of time.

as you can see above.

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@evil_incarnate: global scale once? yeah flash also has become one with the speed force once and kyle rayner once had all the power rings. It doesn't mean it's consistent with what actually is.

If flash fuses with speed force he has a high chance of dying.

If kyle rayner uses all his power rings,they break from the power before he can really use them.

If superman uses his heat vision on such a scale,he would either be attacked by soldiers/kraken or other mystical beasts or aquaman himself before even getting the chance to tire and be killed.

Besides I gave him new 52.

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@lord_galactus: Superman's speed is far greater than any of adversaries. If he didn't want to be hit by them he wouldn't.

Also it's funny how you're trying to eliminate the showings from Pre 52, but yet are trying to use the same limitations he had in Pre 52.

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i dont get why people make threads on here pitting someone who their obviously in favor of and then bark at people who disagree...but anyway the teams takes this.

The kraken isn't as big of a deal as your making it for the sheer fact that Hal can BFR it and aquaman tore a whole through it KOing it or killing it (i dont remember) in his own comic recently. So any of the 4 listed could put it down themselves while the other 3 focus on other things. the biggest threat Aquaman has workin for him is his tp. I'm not a aquaman professor but i kno he handles fish and stuff well with his TP but is he really strong enough to take over superman or shazam THAT fast where they couldn't just be on the offensive for alittle? cuz TP would take focus and with 3 heavy hitters going at him, is he still Despero/MM level TP to control one of them? I'm not really counting the atlantis army since most of them would be cannon fodder at that point.

So i still say the team unless arthurs TP is that powerful

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#25  Edited By lord_galactus

@glforhire: who is barking lol im debating.

isnt that the point of comicvine battle threads

Also his TP was strong enough to take off kyle rayners ring.


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@evil_incarnate: i brought up those limitations because you brought up a feat that was pre 52 when it clearly states new 52 only.

lol

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#27  Edited By ElmoHump

@evil_incarnate said:

Superman uses his heat vision to boil the ocean.

Obvious troll is obvious..

And if he has on a global scale show me a scan of it in the New-52.

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#28  Edited By patrat18

JL.

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@lord_galactus:

kyle was a yuppie at that point and no where near the level hal it. and in the scan u posted his hook takes the ring. BUT either way, taking off a ring and controlling some of the strongest willed characters in DC is a biggggg difference. I see him TP superman, nose start bleeding from the strain kind of thing and even then he still has at least 1 guy to worry about saying shazam and brainwashed superman duke it out.

as for debating, ya i'm all for it but even in the few i've posted, its usually better when ppl post and then sit back and just read responses, not post "hulk would beat all of DC" type threads and then just completely back hulk. gotta debate both sides or whats the point of posting the question if u think u kno the answer already?

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@evil_incarnate: i brought up those limitations because you brought up a feat that was pre 52 when it clearly states new 52 only.

lol

Wrong I brought up the fact that he could boil the ocean and then you brought up the theory that he would tire out and even posted scans. Can you not see the posting order? I didn't even mention the global feat before you posted the scan. Try again.

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@evil_incarnate said:

Superman uses his heat vision to boil the ocean.

Obvious troll is obvious..

And if he has on a global scale show me a scan of it in the New-52.

It was a pre 52 feat, but all he has to do is use it on the ocean and cook the surrounding enemies. There isn't a need to use it on a global scale in this battle.

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didnt aquaman kill the kraken. ANd wouldnt superman literally be able to do the same move on it. All he did was plow through it at high velocity and I am sure superman can reach higher speeds than aquaman....

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Well, it depends. If the JL isn't bloodlust and are their normal selves, I believe it would be the same thing like Throne of Atlantis.

However, if they were bloodlust...ugh, even if AQ would win, he wouldn't have much of a kingdom to lead anymore lol

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#34  Edited By reaverlation

@glforhire: strain at TPing Superman?lol Superman has such a vulnerable mind to telepathy it's laughable. Especially since Arthur has probed Martian Manhunter's mind

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@glforhire: Did you forget about this.

Not only is he a strong telepath he is resistant against it as well.

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@aquaman01: actually had forgotten about how dominant aquaman was vs the justice league in that issue but he had Orm with him as well who I think has a seperate army of his own.

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Don't think it would be a stomp but Justice league would win.

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@lord_galactus: So they're all New 52, but you're using an Aquaman feat that is Pre 52 in an attempt to prove his telepathic abilities, but my Pre 52 feat for Superman is inadmissible?

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#40  Edited By Evil-Incarnate

@lord_galactus: You said that he has the water hand and the New 52 trident none of that has anything to do with his telepathy.

Even with that feat he'd be hard pressed to utilize it against beings who can move fast enough that he can't detect them.

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#42  Edited By Franchise1590

Aquaman fans are becoming the new Storm fans.

That said bloodlust gives JL the win here.

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@evil_incarnate: since when has anyone but possibly flash been too fast for aquaman lol? and i just showed you his telepathic capabilities above.

Especially in water.

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#44  Edited By aquaman01

@franchise1590 said:

Aquaman fans are becoming the new Storm fans.

That said bloodlust gives JL the win here.

nah. When people start saying Aquaman can beat people like Superman or Darkseid or WBH by himself without help, then they will become like Storm fans. Also, remember, there is a difference between regular character and a bloodlusted one.

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#45  Edited By aquaman01

@evil_incarnate: since when has anyone but possibly flash been too fast for aquaman lol? and i just showed you his telepathic capabilities above.

Especially in water.

Many people are faster than Aquaman. Martian Manhunter, Superman, Wonder Woman, Shazam, etc...

Speed in water is a different story of course.

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Aquaman should be able to win this. His water hand was absolutely insane, to the point of almost making him immortal. None of these guys have good TP resistance feats that I've seen n52 (though I may very well be wrong).

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@lord_galactus: Your scans aren't a feat for Aquaman. He didn't show any telepathic resistance and was mindcontrolled on the next page

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@aquaman01: Funny the JL only win here because of Hal

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@aquaman01: Funny the JL only win here because of Hal

Well, I didn't see that was why JL would win or not. Just responding in that there are many people faster than AQ. I actually believe that, if JL is morals on, they would lose. Like you said, even a moral on Hal SHOULD win it, but the GL's have not been impressive at all recently. Of course, it might just be because of the writing ;)

Of course, bloodlusted, the justice league would stop trying to hold back and obliterate them all.

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#50  Edited By lord_galactus
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@dondave: He could of just done what grodd did to him and make him believe he had kryptonite.