#1 Edited by LubeMan (1067 posts) - - Show Bio

Orin goes toe to toe with keeper of the rainbow bridge of Asgard, Heimdall, to have words with Odin, can the king of Atlantis go through the mighty Heimdall?

1. He has to get through Heimdall at the rainbow bridge as they break out into a fight.

2. Heimdall decides to take Orin on in a pre-emptive strike in Atlantis.

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#2 Posted by Kyzuko (120 posts) - - Show Bio

Someone enlighten me on Heimdall's power, abilities and feats?

#3 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

Heimdall

#4 Posted by Dawgfan229 (50 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird said:

Heimdall

#5 Posted by Saren (25623 posts) - - Show Bio

Johns' Aquaman thunderclaps Heimdall to death after the latter gazes into Aquaman's past and remarks "I see you talk to fish a lot."

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#6 Posted by argusx (94 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't Heimdall only a 50tonner while current Aquaman is bordering on planetary strength.

#7 Posted by Veitha (3099 posts) - - Show Bio

New 52 Aquaman was able to hurt Superman and carried an entire ship, didn't he? I think that he wins here. But I don't know the full extent of Heimdall's powers, so I could be wrong.

#8 Posted by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@argusx said:

Isn't Heimdall only a 50tonner while current Aquaman is bordering on planetary strength.

Where did you hear that?

#9 Posted by Lvenger (19405 posts) - - Show Bio

@argusx said:

Isn't Heimdall only a 50tonner while current Aquaman is bordering on planetary strength.

This is so very, very wrong. Aquaman has never shown planetary level strength. Anyway, let's compare stats. Aquaman has been shown to be stronger and more durable than Heimdall even out of water so he could probably take Round 1. And Round 2 is an easy win for Aquaman given his enhanced abilities in water and the option of calling some sharks, whales, giant squids or other sea life to his assistance.

#10 Edited by Guardiandevil83 (5531 posts) - - Show Bio

Is Heimdall the better warrior? To me this is crucial knowledge for round one, because both are strong enough to hurt the other, and their weapons are no joke either. Probably give it to Heimdall in round one, due to him probably seeing Aquaman prepare, what weapons/weapon he brings, ect.

#11 Posted by Bo88gdan (4397 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird said:

Heimdall

#12 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@argusx said:

Isn't Heimdall only a 50tonner while current Aquaman is bordering on planetary strength.

Aquaman is no where close to that level of strength. Not even remotely He's not even continet level, let alone city level.

#13 Posted by Saren (25623 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

He's not even continet level, let alone city level.

Phrasing should be the other way around.

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#14 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Hemidall VS Thor

#15 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@jeanroygrant said:

He's not even continet level, let alone city level.

Phrasing should be the other way around.

Lol, yeah.

#16 Edited by LubeMan (1067 posts) - - Show Bio

I think i'll take Heimdall in a very tough battle for him. Any where near water, he'd struggle and lose the edge to Orin, who should take a majority in those circumstances.

#17 Posted by argusx (94 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger:

Oh i just thought since he has near WW level strength in water who is in the same tier as Superman he should atleast be considered near that level.

#18 Posted by Lvenger (19405 posts) - - Show Bio

@argusx: His best feat is lifting a city during a Pre New 52 story. Wonder Woman's gone toe to toe with Superman and moved a third (or thereabout) of the Earth. I think Diana has him outclassed in terms of strength.

@LubeMan: Heimdall's strength is about in the mid 30 tons which is stronger than the average Asgardian but not by much. Aquaman still has 70-100 ton range strength for a tenure of an hour on land. Personally I think Aquaman can score a win by then.

#19 Posted by daak1212 (7901 posts) - - Show Bio

I fail to see how Heimdall will take out Aquaman....Oh God Aquaman

#20 Posted by dondave (36663 posts) - - Show Bio

Aquaman ftw

#21 Posted by jackofspades (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bo88gdan said:

@Alyssabird said:

Heimdall

this

#22 Posted by whydama (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

Heimdall is crazily durable to magic attacks. Unfortunately, he is not much of a h2h fighter. He is an oracle.

The movie feat of him breaking out from an attack from The Casket of Ancient Winters was solid. He has also resisted transmutation by the Enchantress.

#23 Posted by Ddecourt (803 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a close one. But I think Heimdall wins here.

#24 Posted by LubeMan (1067 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

@argusx: His best feat is lifting a city during a Pre New 52 story. Wonder Woman's gone toe to toe with Superman and moved a third (or thereabout) of the Earth. I think Diana has him outclassed in terms of strength.

@LubeMan: Heimdall's strength is about in the mid 30 tons which is stronger than the average Asgardian but not by much. Aquaman still has 70-100 ton range strength for a tenure of an hour on land. Personally I think Aquaman can score a win by then.

Heimdall is a minimum 50tonner. He's an experienced fighter who's held the odin force before, and is thousands of years old.

#25 Posted by LubeMan (1067 posts) - - Show Bio

@whydama said:

Heimdall is crazily durable to magic attacks. Unfortunately, he is not much of a h2h fighter. He is an oracle.

The movie feat of him breaking out from an attack from The Casket of Ancient Winters was solid. He has also resisted transmutation by the Enchantress.

Think you got that mixed up there. It's actually quite the opposite, he's quite versed in h2h, being the keeper of the bridge, and oracle? Well, lets just say his senses are exceptionally remarkable and can hear and sense things from worlds away, so, not quite known as an oracle, but.

#26 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

Heimdall

#27 Posted by comicfan11 (740 posts) - - Show Bio

Aquaman in both.
The last issue of Justice League should be enough evidence.

#28 Posted by asIsuspected (543 posts) - - Show Bio
@comicfan11 said:
Aquaman in both. The last issue of Justice League should be enough evidence.
agree
#29 Posted by XLR87T3 (2709 posts) - - Show Bio

Aquaman smashes him. Heimdall will see it coming, but can't do anything about it.

#30 Posted by LubeMan (1067 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicfan11 said:

Aquaman in both. The last issue of Justice League should be enough evidence.

Haven't kept up with JLA after 12th issue, what hapend?

#31 Posted by dondave (36663 posts) - - Show Bio

@LubeMan: Aquaman happened

#32 Posted by rpottage (884 posts) - - Show Bio

Aquaman in both rounds. He's stronger, more durable; and finally gotten his chance to shine since the reboot.

#33 Posted by LubeMan (1067 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@LubeMan: Aquaman happened

He punched an unsuspecting Superman, unless he koe'd him, it's good, but doesn't give him an instant win against Heimdall, imo. @rpottage said:

Aquaman in both rounds. He's stronger, more durable; and finally gotten his chance to shine since the reboot.

Actually, they're durability would be bout the same, again, imo, from everything i've seen and read bout them, and as for stronger? Orin may be more physically stronger, in water, out of water, that would not be that much diferent putting him out of Heimdall's ability to hurt him.

#34 Posted by Hyperlight (5734 posts) - - Show Bio

aqaman is strongr tan heimdal bu ot y a crzy amont. hemdallis stronger than aerage asgardian and c lie around 50 tons... where aquamn has anyhere between 10 and 30 tons on him. there duability is about the same. heimdall is much older and has ben fighing longer but t b honst he wnt know ho to fight aquman .. he is use to fightig norse gods with ax's and swords not someone like orin. Heimdall has a huge advantge with awareess..... because orin has absolutely no way of doing anything without heimdall being aware of it

im goingwth aquaman

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#35 Posted by rpottage (884 posts) - - Show Bio

@LubeMan said:

@dondave said:

@LubeMan: Aquaman happened

He punched an unsuspecting Superman, unless he koe'd him, it's good, but doesn't give him an instant win against Heimdall, imo. @rpottage said:

Aquaman in both rounds. He's stronger, more durable; and finally gotten his chance to shine since the reboot.

Actually, they're durability would be bout the same, again, imo, from everything i've seen and read bout them, and as for stronger? Orin may be more physically stronger, in water, out of water, that would not be that much diferent putting him out of Heimdall's ability to hurt him.

Not since the reboot. Someone did the math on this awhile back (I can try to find it again if need be); but just to survive on the bottom of the Mariana's Trench (which Aquaman not only did but actually moved a massive spaceship that far down); just to survive and move requires your strength to be 80 tons. Moving the ship makes it far higher than that; so that would make him a lot stronger and more durable than Heimdall who's only a 50 tonner.

#36 Posted by Lvenger (19405 posts) - - Show Bio

@LubeMan said:

@Lvenger said:

@argusx: His best feat is lifting a city during a Pre New 52 story. Wonder Woman's gone toe to toe with Superman and moved a third (or thereabout) of the Earth. I think Diana has him outclassed in terms of strength.

@LubeMan: Heimdall's strength is about in the mid 30 tons which is stronger than the average Asgardian but not by much. Aquaman still has 70-100 ton range strength for a tenure of an hour on land. Personally I think Aquaman can score a win by then.

Heimdall is a minimum 50tonner. He's an experienced fighter who's held the odin force before, and is thousands of years old.

Where's the feats for that? And holding the Odin Force before has no bearing on winning the fight. Plus Aquaman is an experienced fighter too so that plus better stats gives him the edge.

#37 Posted by LubeMan (1067 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

@LubeMan said:

@Lvenger said:

@argusx: His best feat is lifting a city during a Pre New 52 story. Wonder Woman's gone toe to toe with Superman and moved a third (or thereabout) of the Earth. I think Diana has him outclassed in terms of strength.

@LubeMan: Heimdall's strength is about in the mid 30 tons which is stronger than the average Asgardian but not by much. Aquaman still has 70-100 ton range strength for a tenure of an hour on land. Personally I think Aquaman can score a win by then.

Heimdall is a minimum 50tonner. He's an experienced fighter who's held the odin force before, and is thousands of years old.

Where's the feats for that? And holding the Odin Force before has no bearing on winning the fight. Plus Aquaman is an experienced fighter too so that plus better stats gives him the edge.

Feats for what? Be more specific!

#38 Posted by spiderpool94 (467 posts) - - Show Bio

Heimdall stomps both

#39 Posted by LubeMan (1067 posts) - - Show Bio

@spiderpool94 said:

Heimdall stomps both

With water around, edge goes to Orin, and would be his to lose, again, imo. Water as in not just a cup, for the record.

#40 Posted by Lvenger (19405 posts) - - Show Bio

@LubeMan said:

@Lvenger said:

@LubeMan said:

@Lvenger said:

@argusx: His best feat is lifting a city during a Pre New 52 story. Wonder Woman's gone toe to toe with Superman and moved a third (or thereabout) of the Earth. I think Diana has him outclassed in terms of strength.

@LubeMan: Heimdall's strength is about in the mid 30 tons which is stronger than the average Asgardian but not by much. Aquaman still has 70-100 ton range strength for a tenure of an hour on land. Personally I think Aquaman can score a win by then.

Heimdall is a minimum 50tonner. He's an experienced fighter who's held the odin force before, and is thousands of years old.

Where's the feats for that? And holding the Odin Force before has no bearing on winning the fight. Plus Aquaman is an experienced fighter too so that plus better stats gives him the edge.

Feats for what? Be more specific!

His strength is what I meant. What feats show he's a 50 tonner? I thought I made that clear.

#41 Posted by LubeMan (1067 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

@LubeMan said:

@Lvenger said:

@LubeMan said:

@Lvenger said:

@argusx: His best feat is lifting a city during a Pre New 52 story. Wonder Woman's gone toe to toe with Superman and moved a third (or thereabout) of the Earth. I think Diana has him outclassed in terms of strength.

@LubeMan: Heimdall's strength is about in the mid 30 tons which is stronger than the average Asgardian but not by much. Aquaman still has 70-100 ton range strength for a tenure of an hour on land. Personally I think Aquaman can score a win by then.

Heimdall is a minimum 50tonner. He's an experienced fighter who's held the odin force before, and is thousands of years old.

Where's the feats for that? And holding the Odin Force before has no bearing on winning the fight. Plus Aquaman is an experienced fighter too so that plus better stats gives him the edge.

Feats for what? Be more specific!

His strength is what I meant. What feats show he's a 50 tonner? I thought I made that clear.

your average Asgardian is 20-25 tonner, Heimdall is stronger, more durable than your average Asgardian as is Balder and other prominent Asgardians. It's stated and well known that Heimdall is a base 50 tonner, not hard to look it up. By reading your posts, you sound like you haven't really read anything with Heimdall in it and know very little or nothing about him, yet, you believe that Aquaman takes this solidly, based solely on his feats alone? Isn't that a little one sided?

#42 Posted by Lvenger (19405 posts) - - Show Bio

@LubeMan said:

@Lvenger said:

@LubeMan said:

@Lvenger said:

@LubeMan said:

@Lvenger said:

@argusx: His best feat is lifting a city during a Pre New 52 story. Wonder Woman's gone toe to toe with Superman and moved a third (or thereabout) of the Earth. I think Diana has him outclassed in terms of strength.

@LubeMan: Heimdall's strength is about in the mid 30 tons which is stronger than the average Asgardian but not by much. Aquaman still has 70-100 ton range strength for a tenure of an hour on land. Personally I think Aquaman can score a win by then.

Heimdall is a minimum 50tonner. He's an experienced fighter who's held the odin force before, and is thousands of years old.

Where's the feats for that? And holding the Odin Force before has no bearing on winning the fight. Plus Aquaman is an experienced fighter too so that plus better stats gives him the edge.

Feats for what? Be more specific!

His strength is what I meant. What feats show he's a 50 tonner? I thought I made that clear.

your average Asgardian is 20-25 tonner, Heimdall is stronger, more durable than your average Asgardian as is Balder and other prominent Asgardians. It's stated and well known that Heimdall is a base 50 tonner, not hard to look it up. By reading your posts, you sound like you haven't really read anything with Heimdall in it and know very little or nothing about him, yet, you believe that Aquaman takes this solidly, based solely on his feats alone? Isn't that a little one sided?

I fail to see how it's one sided. I know that Balder and Heimdall are stronger than the average Asgardian. And I'm a big Thor fan so that accusation is made out of the blue. But I know Aquaman's feats a fair bit so I believe the evidence shows he can take the fight out of water as well as in it. Why do you think Heimdall can win out of water?

#43 Posted by spiderbuck (2452 posts) - - Show Bio

Heimdall

Aquaman