#1 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (1989 posts) - - Show Bio

5 days prep for middle earth, 3 days prep for apokolips.

Everyone in middle earth except Eru.

Everything on Apokolips invades Middle Earth (every villian, every creature)

Battle ends in capture/defeat.

Darkseid leads Apokolips forces.

Saruman, Gandalf the White, and Treebeard lead Middle Earth forces

Who wins?

#2 Posted by rpottage (863 posts) - - Show Bio

Tom Bombadil solo's.

#3 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (1989 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#4 Posted by afueikawa (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

SPITE?

#5 Posted by mk111 (3140 posts) - - Show Bio

@afueikawa:

Rats, I actually haven't watched Lord of the Rings, so I can't really judge this. But who is this a stomp for, just curious.

#6 Posted by afueikawa (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

@mk111: Apokolips FTW.

What would middle earth do, fight with their swords, bows and arrows and hordes of goblins and Uruk Hai's?

The wizards + sauron would take some of Apokolips forces, but in the end, they'll lose.

Apokolips takes this easily, let alone Darkseid for a stomp.

If Eru (TOAA's / God's equivalent in Tolkien U) is here, I'd say curbstomp for Middle Earth.

#7 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (1989 posts) - - Show Bio

@mk111 said:

@afueikawa:

Rats, I actually haven't watched Lord of the Rings, so I can't really judge this. But who is this a stomp for, just curious.

It's not a stomp for no one, because LOTR has multiple people who could somewhat defend.

One could argue that Nazgul and the Witch King can beat Parademons, and that Melkor can possibly kill Darkseid.

#8 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

@rpottage said:

Tom Bombadil solo's.

This.

#9 Posted by mk111 (3140 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks: @afueikawa:

Thanks for the replies.

I really need to watch LotR, I'm like the only person who hasn't. :(

#10 Posted by afueikawa (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks:

Based on the OP, i assume this is LOTR already, Melkor is in the Void.

And even if it's not, I still doubt Melkor can kill Darkseid. Melkor got hurt by an Elf (forgot the name), Darkseid is way far from that level.

But still, it's your opinion.

#11 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks said:

One could argue that Nazgul and the Witch King can beat Parademons,

No, one could not. There are nine Nazgul and a few billion Parademons with potentially ghost killing weapons.

Really, Apokolips has planet destroying hand grenades. There is very little the ME dudes can actually do against them (assuming you meant the whole planet, of course. If just the Middle Earth that's a few orders of magnitude worse).

#12 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17004 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid solos... No one in LOTR has Superman level durability and Omega Beams affected him. They will do the same to LOTR heroes.

#13 Posted by entropy_aegis (14408 posts) - - Show Bio

Why do people always assume Apokolips=Parademons,Furies and Kalibak? hello Mantis and Stayne anyone?

#14 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (16115 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, if LOTR people do go by their little game of restricted physical forms, they lose. Very badly.

But, if they consider the threat and go in their full form, anyone from saruman to tom bombadil should solo..

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#15 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1 said:

Well, if LOTR people do go by their little game of restricted physical forms, they lose. Very badly.

But, if they consider the threat and go in their full form, anyone from saruman to tom bombadil should solo..

What the hell is their 'full form' and what evidence do you have of its abilities?

#16 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (16115 posts) - - Show Bio

@AtPhantom: The 'full form' I am referring to is their form, when they created the universe, as Ainur.

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#17 Posted by AmazingAngel (4067 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm I think Apokalips, there is not much I can see LOTR doing here.

#18 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1 said:

@AtPhantom: The 'full form' I am referring to is their form, when they created the universe, as Ainur.

And exactly who, beyond the Istari, has ever been restricted from it?

#19 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (16115 posts) - - Show Bio

@AtPhantom said:

@PrinceAragorn1 said:

@AtPhantom: The 'full form' I am referring to is their form, when they created the universe, as Ainur.

And exactly who, beyond the Istari, has ever been restricted from it?

Didn't catch your meaning..

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#20 Posted by Sabboth (76 posts) - - Show Bio
#21 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1 said:

Didn't catch your meaning..

You talked about their little game of restricted physical forms. Nobody actually does that in LOTRU except the wizards.

#22 Edited by PrinceAragorn1 (16115 posts) - - Show Bio

@AtPhantom: Ah yes, the.. wizards. And morgoth, for example was supposed to have grown too attached to his physical form, and lost most of his powers. In that condition, he got beat up by fingolfin. Balrogs, secondly took 'form of giant flaming creatures, but were maia like Gandalf, the sun-moon-tree eater took form of a spider, ungoliant. If they are going to continue in that form, they're dead. But in their original form, it's vastly another story.

morgoth, for example, is directly second to God, has all the aspects eru has, and is immortal (couldn't be killed by valars), has gone against God and was still fine. He doesn't even need help. He's like an evil LT.. or.. maybe more, because I don't think LT could last after going against TOAA..

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#23 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1: Morgoth and Sauron got mode locked because they lost their power. There's nothing they could do about it and they can't just decide "Hey let's get dangerous" and just power up to over 9000. The Balrogs are supposedly the same story. The sun and moon weren't Maiar, they were vessels piloted by Maiar who supposedly still had all their powers. Ungoliant wasn't even an Ainur at all. The only ones who willingly had their power limited to fit their task and who could reclaim it afterward were the wizards, and they don't really matter much because they're basically small fry in the LOTR cosmology.

And Melkor is not an evil LT for Eru's sake.

#24 Edited by PrinceAragorn1 (16115 posts) - - Show Bio

@AtPhantom: Well, I said ungoliant was in physical form yet she was able to eat life essence of the tree on which the sun was a fruit. She was supposed to be 'evil spirit in form of a spider', I was just giving you some beings that were in physical form. As you say, the istari were the only ones who willingly limited their powers. More importantly, they are not small fry in any manner.

I agree that LT could be as high as melkor though. I doubt he could go against TOAA and live to tell about it.. liked the "eru's sake' though :D

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