Apocalypse vs. Magneto(616)

" @yodagod: Have we actually seen Magneto being able to display his complete control over the entire electromagnetic spectrum, gravity control, radiation control, subatomic control, time-space control, entombing someone in the molten metal of the Earth's core, throwing someone into the sun, having someone's molecules dispersed on a subatomic scale into space, throwing someone into a black hole. "

" @batmanbeyond234:  Apocalypse can teleport and can fly.  Apocalypse has complete control of his body on the atomic, cellular and molecular level. This control is much stronger than Sinister's.  Apocalypse shows no fatigue. Magneto does.  Apocalypse is also wiser and more intelligent than Magneto.  If both are at full power and both have full prep then Apocalypse wins after a really tough battle. Apocalypse access to Celestial technology that Magneto might not know how to deal with.  Apocalypse is pretty much invulnerable and can also absorb energy, meaning he can absorb the electromagnetic energy from Magneto's attacks. "

" @yodagod:   Hello.  Both Magneto and Apocalypse are at full power and both have full prep.The only time that Apocalypse can defeat Magneto is it Apocalypse is at full power and has full prep.   I don't know if Apocalypse has an energy absorption limit though.  Magneto would NOT know how to handle Apocalypse's Celestial technology.   Can Magneto prevent Apocalypse from teleporting?  Apocalypse is nearly invulnerable. Does that mean anything when he fights Magneto?  Apocalypse has complete control over his body on the cellular and molecular level. This control is much stronger than Sinister's.   Can Apocalypse make himself intangible? Would that mean anything when he fights Magneto?  Apocalypse does not tire in battle. Magneto does. Does this mean anything? Is Apocalypse more intelligent than Magneto?  Apocalypse fought the Avengers and Cable at the same time. Can Magneto do that?  Apocalypse defeated the X-Men, when Apocalypse was in a dying state. Can Magneto do that?  Questions? Comments? Concerns?            %Pr "

" @yodagod:   Hello.  Both Magneto and Apocalypse are at full power and both have full prep.The only time that Apocalypse can defeat Magneto is it Apocalypse is at full power and has full prep.   I don't know if Apocalypse has an energy absorption limit though.  Magneto would NOT know how to handle Apocalypse's Celestial technology.   Can Magneto prevent Apocalypse from teleporting?  Apocalypse is nearly invulnerable. Does that mean anything when he fights Magneto?  Apocalypse has complete control over his body on the cellular and molecular level. This control is much stronger than Sinister's.   Can Apocalypse make himself intangible? Would that mean anything when he fights Magneto?  Apocalypse does not tire in battle. Magneto does. Does this mean anything? Is Apocalypse more intelligent than Magneto?  Apocalypse fought the Avengers and Cable at the same time. Can Magneto do that?  Apocalypse defeated the X-Men, when Apocalypse was in a dying state. Can Magneto do that?  Questions? Comments? Concerns?            %Pr "

Magneto wins this. Magneto's powers in AOA were actually decreased from what they would have been in 616 and he still beat Apoc.

" @The Man of Tomorrow: 
Actually, Apocalypse happens to have  transmutation abilities.
 
So?
 
Can Magneto counteract this? 
 
Yes.
 
Also,  High Revolutionary  claims to own a comic, in which Apocalypse defeats Magneto. Do you happen to know the name of it? " 
 
Magneto beat Apoc after he lost a great portion of his powers in AoA. I'm not saying Apoc can't beat Mags. Jubilee could beat Magneto under the right circumstances. But Mags takes the majority.

"@The Man of Tomorrow: 
Actually, Apocalypse happens to have  transmutation abilities. Can Magneto counteract this?
 
Also,  High Revolutionary  claims to own a comic, in which Apocalypse defeats Magneto. Do you happen to know the name of it? "

apoc wins

Given the nature of Apocalypse's shape shifting powers, if Magneto successfully tore him apart couldn't he just pull himself back together?

" Given the nature of Apocalypse's shape shifting powers, if Magneto successfully tore him apart couldn't he just pull himself back together? "

Can Apocalypse also turn himself into stone, plastic, or some other substance that's resistant to magnetism? After all he does know who Magnetos is and how his powers work.

" @Ultimate Joker: Not only that, but Apocalypse would be dead, when ripped in half. Then Magneto separates all the pieces to any place. Or he destroys the pieces to nothing.  The only problem here is transmutation for Magneto.  "

" @Ultimate Joker: Magneto need a machine to release a worldwide electromagnetic pulse.  Did Magneto stop the planet from rotating? Also it strained him to open black holes and wormholes.  
 
@kadeem said:

" Can Apocalypse also turn himself into stone, plastic, or some other substance that's resistant to magnetism? After all he does know who Magnetos is and how his powers work. "

Yes, but they are all vulnerable to Magneto's powers. "

" @Ultimate Joker: Magneto need a machine to release a worldwide electromagnetic pulse.  Did Magneto stop the planet from rotating? Also it strained him to open black holes and wormholes.  
 
@kadeem said:

" Can Apocalypse also turn himself into stone, plastic, or some other substance that's resistant to magnetism? After all he does know who Magnetos is and how his powers work. "

Yes, but they are all vulnerable to Magneto's powers. "

" @Ultimate Joker: Depends on that device, since Magneto can overpower something by using Earth's magnetic field.    Also, what about the black hole instance? Did he strain defeating Phoenix, Thor and withstanding nuclear detonations? "

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Good match, I don't know.

Let me get one factoid straight here so I can more easily figure this out. Apocalypse has control over his his body down to the atomic level?

" @Ultimate Joker: Yes, total control. "

" @geraldthesloth said:

" @Ultimate Joker: Yes, total control. "

But just at the atomic level? "

Magneto curbstomps. He has easily manipulated Apoc in 616 universe.

" @Ultimate Joker said:

" @geraldthesloth said:

" @Ultimate Joker: Yes, total control. "

But just at the atomic level? "

From what I know it's to an unknown level but than again it's what I know, Apocalypse has stated many times that he can shape his body from the tiniest thing to whatever he wants,I'd say it could go deeper than that. "