Stops at 1, if not he then gets blasted into atoms at round 4
The version of Apocalypse that got killed by Black bolt wasn't canon
Apocalypse stomps black bolt with ease but i see Apocalypse struggling with Thor & ManHunter.
Killemall already debunked this. its from X-factor 68, this cut and pasted from this thread:
Seriously? We are using going to use X factor # 68 and ignore all the amp he had?
Apocalyse was fused with a special machine, that was boosting his powers as well as giving him access to powers from Cable, who as a baby was explined earlier as godlike (much like Franklin).
Once disconnected from the same machine and once the amp he gets from Cable wears out, Cyclops solos him , destroying his newly constructed maching amped body and forces him to flee.
Its not like he did absolutely anything to Black bolt or any of the inhumans for the matter who were barely seen on panel for what 3 pages.
@hellionvulcan: Just stop.It is Canon.If you read marvel comics over the years they have brought it up numerous of times.No more mutants did happen.Even in recent Uncanny Avengers she wish them back.So try again.
Stops at 1, if not he then gets blasted into atoms at round 4
The version of Apocalypse that got killed by Black bolt wasn't canon
Apocalypse stomps black bolt with ease but i see Apocalypse struggling with Thor & ManHunter.
Killemall already debunked this. its from X-factor 68, this cut and pasted from this thread:
Seriously? We are using going to use X factor # 68 and ignore all the amp he had?
Apocalyse was fused with a special machine, that was boosting his powers as well as giving him access to powers from Cable, who as a baby was explined earlier as godlike (much like Franklin).
Once disconnected from the same machine and once the amp he gets from Cable wears out, Cyclops solos him , destroying his newly constructed maching amped body and forces him to flee.
Its not like he did absolutely anything to Black bolt or any of the inhumans for the matter who were barely seen on panel for what 3 pages.
Its never stated he was amped so show me where it says Apocalypse was amping himself ?, Apocalypse has tanked far greater than Cyclops optic blast with no problems so again it looks like the machine was rejuvenating himself not amping.
@hellionvulcan: Just stop.It is Canon.If you read marvel comics over the years they have brought it up numerous of times.No more mutants did happen.Even in recent Uncanny Avengers she wish them back.So try again.
Somethings were different in house of M I believe. I would avoid showings from house of M personally....
@hellionvulcan: We clearly see cable is connected to the machine which is connected to apocalypse. And again once the machine was removed cyclops soloed him. The machine clearly helped against black bolt. Otherwise cyclops would not have damaged him at all.
@tensor: House of M has been stated as being non canon on this site. Characters have different power levels and are seen to be different from their regular versions. Have you ever read age of apocalypse? That's a completely different universe that's also been brought up many different times through out the years. It's non canon. It's not 616 universe.
@proto3296: So you are saying something that happen is not canon.It is mentioned all over in 616 universe that makes no sense at all. How many comics and stories from 616 universe did they talk about what SW did.You are joking if that is not Canon.
He could clear but....he can't get past round 1. Everything else is fine.
You think round one is harder than martian manhunter?
Yes. by far. KK alone.
Why, exactly?
KK does ridiculous stuff like lop off Kryptonian's arms and beat Daxamites in fights with ease. He'd likely just pick Apoc apart. Especially if Midnighter helps with Doors.
@xiix: I just noticed there is nothing stopping him from BFR most of these characters. Only Thor could teleport back with ease and beat him down. People are overrating KK & Midnighter. KK is amazing, and so is Midnighter, but they cannot put out enough damage to hurt Apoc and bust through his armor.
Black Bolt is sort of a glass canon. If Apocalypse can get with in mele range with him it's all over. I think against Hulk, Wonder Woman, and Thor, the fights could go either way. I just can't see him getting past MMH.
MMH and Apocalypse are on paper very similar, but MMH has much more consistent feats and showings.
Black Bolt is sort of a glass canon. If Apocalypse can get with in mele range with him it's all over. I think against Hulk, Wonder Woman, and Thor, the fights could go either way. I just can't see him getting past MMH.
MMH and Apocalypse are on paper very similar, but MMH has much more consistent feats and showings.
Not a bad analysis. I think the only difference between Apoc and Hulk, Thor & WW is feats, they have consistent feats that put them where they are, with Apocalypse, it's generally theoretical, it's what he should be and what he was created for, but, lacks consistent feats that would keep him in that top tier echelon of Thor, Superman, Hulk, MM etc
Black Bolt is sort of a glass canon. If Apocalypse can get with in mele range with him it's all over. I think against Hulk, Wonder Woman, and Thor, the fights could go either way. I just can't see him getting past MMH.
MMH and Apocalypse are on paper very similar, but MMH has much more consistent feats and showings.
Not a bad analysis. I think the only difference between Apoc and Hulk, Thor & WW is feats, they have consistent feats that put them where they are, with Apocalypse, it's generally theoretical, it's what he should be and what he was created for, but, lacks consistent feats that would keep him in that top tier echelon of Thor, Superman, Hulk, MM etc
Works for me too. I always feel like Apocalypse was intended to be a transcendent tier character, a'la Thanos and Mongul, but has just never had the feats to put him past Mid-Herald.
@dondave: As long as Apocalypse had his armor , which has been a standard gear to him after his origin was revealed I don't see how he would stop at round 1.
I don't know why people so massively under estimate Apocalypse.
That said he is going to have his hands full with Super girl. He is stronger and more durable then her but a lot slower.
@night4345: usingkarate against a guy who can who is been around for thousands of years and is the conqueror of the future
I'm not really a DC fan but I'll admit it should be hard for Apocalypse to get past Supergirl and then it would be hard for him to get past hulk if can get past those two he clears pretty easily
Apocalypse has celestial tech, and his shield was powerful enough to tank every single attack from (young) Thor. Cable and Strife together have been unable to even seriously hurt him and he defeated Exodus in his own solo issue with a wave of his hand.
Black Bolt's attack should do very little against Apocalypse. I do not know why marvel decided to downplay him during House of M alternate reality, but that was only time when Black Bolt and later Magneto had shown the ability to do defeat him. Normally, unless weakened by premature awakening he is much more powerful than either of them.
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