AOA Iceman vs New 52 Superman

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Both are bloodlusted

Takes place on an abandoned planet similar to earth

Standard gear

Random encounter

Morals Off

Win by any means

60ft apart

Age of Apocalypse Iceman

New 52 superman

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Wasn't AoA Iceman ridiculously OP?

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616 Iceman influenced by death seed has better feats. Lol

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#6  Edited By icecold14

@beaconofstrength: Yeah he was more bloodlusted...he might not be as powerful as 616 Iceman but they are close indeed...

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@grandsymbiote94: 616 Iceman is more powerful indeed but since most people agree that Iceman would defeat New 52 Supes i decided to put him up against this Bobby lol

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#11  Edited By icecold14

@sophia89: Idk man I mean AOA Iceman can hold Sunfire in his bare hands... also bobby died because there was no moisture at all...

Just pointing that out bro :)

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#12 mr_ingenuity  Moderator

AOA Iceman was killed by being thrown into a furnaces.

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#13  Edited By icecold14

@mr_ingenuity: Again there was no moisture in the place soo he had nothing to survive on...

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#14 mr_ingenuity  Moderator

@icecold14: Should I mention he maintains a physical body.

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Superman FurnaceStomps.

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@mr_ingenuity: AOA Bobby? not really he does hide his consciouss in a certain spot tho

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@Hellionvulcan: will you please show some feats for aoa Iceman :)

I will when i get home as AoA Iceman has tanked a bloodlusted Sunfires fire with no ill effects so he'd most likely over power superman like 616 Iceman would.

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@sophia89 said:

Superman.

When AOA Kurt took Bobby to the furnace,Bobby became powerless. Superman's HV should replicate that.

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#22  Edited By HellionVulcan

The main problem with AoA Iceman is that hes not as well rounded as the 616 version but he can still create an army of ice clones or he could just instantly freeze Superman's insides

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So unless Superman can take away all forms of water moisture ice he will not put AoA Iceman down.
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Superman, from the arguments people above me are saying.

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Superman FTW.

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@sophia89 said:

Superman.

When AOA Kurt took Bobby to the furnace,Bobby became powerless. Superman's HV should replicate that.

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Iceman IMO, unless Superman can get rid of all moisture.

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@sophia89 said:

Superman.

When AOA Kurt took Bobby to the furnace,Bobby became powerless. Superman's HV should replicate that.

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Clark blitzes Bobby into a furnace.

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#33  Edited By icecold14

@sophia89: Yeah ur right... I meant his clones but i guess superman Could blitz

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#35  Edited By DragonHunter1414

@krleavenger here. ( I'll include post crisis feats too though) since the other pc superman vs thread was locked.

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#37  Edited By DragonHunter1414

@krleavenger: Superman should can create vacuums and heat up everything which will ko iceman. and at the most can send earth into sun.

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616 Iceman wins because he's untouchable, this version is not so Superman stomps.

Now regular Iceman would just take Superman out with a few shots and be done with it (Don't give me bull about Supes surviving in a Vaccum because Thor did the same and still got one shotted)

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616 Iceman wins because he's untouchable, this version is not so Superman stomps.

Now regular Iceman would just take Superman out with a few shots and be done with it (Don't give me bull about Supes surviving in a Vaccum because Thor did the same and still got one shotted)

No. Superman can create vacuums and this is the same iceman that got ko from a furnace. Superman can do much much worse. Not to mention he can throw the earth into the sun. And firstly iceman can not hurt superman.

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#40  Edited By Team_Sigma

@dragonhunter1414 said:
@team_sigma said:

616 Iceman wins because he's untouchable, this version is not so Superman stomps.

Now regular Iceman would just take Superman out with a few shots and be done with it (Don't give me bull about Supes surviving in a Vaccum because Thor did the same and still got one shotted)

No. Superman can create vacuums and this is the same iceman that got ko from a furnace. Superman can do much much worse. Not to mention he can throw the earth into the sun. And firstly iceman can not hurt superman.

1) Creating a vacuum won't do crap to some one who needs no physical body

2) I'm talking about 616

3) Yes he can, keep denying it lol

You: Superman can't be hurt by iceman

Me: Why?

You: Because he can't!

Me: Iceman One shotted Thor

You: Nuh uh Superman can't be hurt cuz he went to space!

Me: So did Thor

You: He can't hurt Superman!

Endless loop :v

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@dragonhunter1414 said:
@team_sigma said:

616 Iceman wins because he's untouchable, this version is not so Superman stomps.

Now regular Iceman would just take Superman out with a few shots and be done with it (Don't give me bull about Supes surviving in a Vaccum because Thor did the same and still got one shotted)

No. Superman can create vacuums and this is the same iceman that got ko from a furnace. Superman can do much much worse. Not to mention he can throw the earth into the sun. And firstly iceman can not hurt superman.

1) Creating a vacuum won't do crap to some one who needs no physical body

2) I'm talking about 616

3) Yes he can, keep denying it lol

You: Superman can't be hurt by iceman

Me: Why?

You: Because he can't!

Me: Iceman One shotted Thor

You: Nuh uh Superman can't be hurt cuz he went to space!

Me: So did Thor

You: He can't hurt Superman!

Endless loop :v

1) he needs moisture.

2) No he cant keep denying it.

3) superman is much faster. so no. and why bcoz thor is an idiot and slow and let him get impaled. yeah maybe endless loop which was the conclusion on other thread which is why it was locked but i read everything most people said sm wins. But the best thing going on for iceman was that he can not hurt sm but he can no die either.

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@dragonhunter1414: 1) So does Superman which a lot of people seem to forget :/

2) Uh yeah he can

3) Doesn't matter imo, Iceman can form ice anywhere so Superman can get impaled from behind,above or even to his sides all at once. Also Superman's been tagged by others just as slow or equal to Iceman in speed, he might be able to avoid Iceman for a few minutes but he's going down eventually

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#43  Edited By DragonHunter1414

@team_sigma said:

@dragonhunter1414: 1) So does Superman which a lot of people seem to forget :/

2) Uh yeah he can

3) Doesn't matter imo, Iceman can form ice anywhere so Superman can get impaled from behind,above or even to his sides all at once. Also Superman's been tagged by others just as slow or equal to Iceman in speed, he might be able to avoid Iceman for a few minutes but he's going down eventually

1) Sm does not need that unless he has solar energy.

2) no he can't. once again denial.

3) ur opinion. ummm No iceman can needs moisture to draw ice. and sm has superhearing so he will know it not like thor and he can not impale him either. since superman can dodge and has superspeed. He can just take the planet to sun and iceman will die eventually.

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#44  Edited By Team_Sigma

@dragonhunter1414: Yeah he kind of does (the incarnation being talked about anyway) if he bleeds he has moisture because blood is water

2) Back at yah ;D

3) Won't work on 616 Iceman since he's every where, Superman is like a Lion trying to kill the Atlantic Ocean ain't gonna do anything and eventually tis gonna drown

4) If Superman is pushing the planet that means he's standing still which means Iceman can hit him which means Superman dies :v

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#45  Edited By DragonHunter1414

@team_sigma:

1) He does need moisture in case indirectly yes.But at the same time going in sun in vacuum for endless space proves he does not need it he would be getting it from nowhere anyways, His blood should have water. But sm heatblaze this one two the modern gen.Also he can withstand cold.

2) Back at ya.

3)616 iceman is not everywhere he is where he was shown by feats that is him being able to teleport himself via water. Superman can vaporize boil oceans, create vaccums ionize gasses.

4) It won't work, because sm would be tossing the entire planet at speed meaning he will be moving with the planet. Iceman would be moving too. Also his speed would increase immensely and increasing his mass too. Iceman would try and tag a mass of a supernova then and will fail. also he will phase and dodge it. unlike thor and then push it again i mean this does not work at all. then heats everything then continues not to mention he can just go ftl sundip then do it. he has more ways of winning this that was the case essentially in the other theead. some people (credible) said stalemate due to him not finishing iceman but they said that iceman can not hurt sm.