#1 Edited by buttersdaman000 (8796 posts) - - Show Bio

Anti-Venom

VS

X-Force


 
A Feral Anti-Venom makes his way to San Francisco and begins to wreak havoc. After putting Spider-man in the hospital and killing dozens of citizens, Cyclops sends X-Force to deal with Brock anyway possible.
 
- Anti-Venom is Blood-Lusted and crazy
- X-Force has limited knowledge on Anti-Venom from what they were able to get from Spider-Man.
- X-Force has 10 min prep
- X-Force will try to capture Brock, but they will o for the kill if they must
- Standard Equipment
- Anti-Venom is attacking civilians when X-Force arrives
#2 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

Anti-Venom cleans house. The only problem I see is Warpath.
#3 Edited by Enzeru (2954 posts) - - Show Bio

Tough fight.

Anti-Venom outclasses them physically. Even Warpath.
And I don't see telepathy being much usefull on a bloodlusted Anti-Venom. The white symbiote should keep him going.
Anti-Venom also doesn't have a weakness to fire and sonics anymore, is bulletproof thanks to the white symbiote and the white symbiote symbiote would also probably redirect Wolverines / the enemies strikes automatically, just like he did it, when the Punisher tried to stab him. 
He can create shields and protect himself against attacks, has his tendrils and a lot of experience and brains. He is not Mac Gargan.
 
But still, what too much is too much, even for him. With combined efforts and a good tactic, they should be able to take him down. They have the attackpower to go through the symbiote and harm Eddie, if they manage to land blows. 
With combined efforts they would probably be able to overwhelm him.

#4 Posted by buttersdaman000 (8796 posts) - - Show Bio
@Enzeru
Do you think Elixir would be able to do anything if he got close?
 
 
@venomoushatred1001
Why?
#5 Posted by Transmetal (286 posts) - - Show Bio

AntiVenom takes out everybody except Archangel and Warpath...thats the real fight...Still think Antivenom wins though those to give hima good run for his money
#6 Posted by Enzeru (2954 posts) - - Show Bio
@buttersdaman000 said:
@Enzeru
Do you think Elixir would be able to do anything if he got close?
 
 Hard to say. His Deathtouch killed Stryker, but I don't know if it would be enough to easily finish off Anti-Venom. The symbiote would probably try to protect him somehow.
And besides that, I'm not sure if Anti-Venoms healing touch can affect even mutants and take away their powers. I think that it hasn't been displayed yet, but it could be in the future, if Marvel wants him to be able to do that.
In his fight against Spider-Man he started taking away Spider-Man's powers and Spider-Man also has a mutation. Not one from his birth, but it was given to him through to spider.
 
So if he has the ability to even heal mutants, then they would have even a harder fight, since he could weaken guys like Archangel and Warpath, when he gets them.
#7 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29330 posts) - - Show Bio
@Enzeru said:
@buttersdaman000 said:
@Enzeru
Do you think Elixir would be able to do anything if he got close?
 
 Hard to say. His Deathtouch killed Stryker, but I don't know if it would be enough to easily finish off Anti-Venom. The symbiote would probably try to protect him somehow.
And besides that, I'm not sure if Anti-Venoms healing touch can affect even mutants and take away their powers. I think that it hasn't been displayed yet, but it could be in the future, if Marvel wants him to be able to do that.
In his fight against Spider-Man he started taking away Spider-Man's powers and Spider-Man also has a mutation. Not one from his birth, but it was given to him through to spider.
 
So if he has the ability to even heal mutants, then they would have even a harder fight, since he could weaken guys like Archangel and Warpath, when he gets them.
His touch heals diseases. Genetics are not a disease for the most part, and I really doubt Anti would have any effect on removing the X-gene. 
#8 Posted by Enzeru (2954 posts) - - Show Bio
@InnerVenom123 said:

His touch heals diseases. Genetics are not a disease for the most part, and I really doubt Anti would have any effect on removing the X-gene. 
But it was also stated more then once, then Spider-Man is also a mutant. Not a regular one, but a semi-mutant, or whatever you can call him, after his genes transformed.
And is drug addiction a disease? :-7  
Anti-Venom can heal them both and until now there is nothing that clearly speaks against him also healing mutants. At least in my opinion.
#9 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29330 posts) - - Show Bio
@Enzeru said:
@InnerVenom123 said:

His touch heals diseases. Genetics are not a disease for the most part, and I really doubt Anti would have any effect on removing the X-gene. 
But it was also stated more then once, then Spider-Man is also a mutant. Not a regular one, but a semi-mutant, or whatever you can call him, after his genes transformed. And is drug addiction a disease? :-7   Anti-Venom can heal them both and until now there is nothing that clearly speaks against him also healing mutants. At least in my opinion.
He's a mutate. But it's caused by radioactive blood, which is by all accounts, not normal. But who knows. 
 
Also, he didn't cure the addiction itself, he cleaned out the system of the body (getting rid of all traces of it). 
#10 Posted by giantarms (181 posts) - - Show Bio

You guys are such ridiculous fanboys and nuthuggers. X-Force as a combined team is 10x more overwhelming than Anti-Venom could possibly handle. The fact that you're COMPLETELY DISMISSING the entire history of X-Force and all of the INSANE SHIT they've fought (Stryfe, etc) is absolutely ridiculous. Anti-Venom is cool, but he's so tragically outmatched here it's not even worth responding to this.

#11 Posted by Blood_guts (1311 posts) - - Show Bio
@giantarms said:
You guys are such ridiculous fanboys and nuthuggers. X-Force as a combined team is 10x more overwhelming than Anti-Venom could possibly handle. The fact that you're COMPLETELY DISMISSING the entire history of X-Force and all of the INSANE SHIT they've fought (Stryfe, etc) is absolutely ridiculous. Anti-Venom is cool, but he's so tragically outmatched here it's not even worth responding to this.
i think x force wins too. however you did respond to this so your last thing is flawed lol. 
 
elixer can turn him to dust with a grab and i think antivenom would do that
#12 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (5913 posts) - - Show Bio

X-Force should take this.
#13 Posted by buttersdaman000 (8796 posts) - - Show Bio
@giantarms said:
You guys are such ridiculous fanboys and nuthuggers. X-Force as a combined team is 10x more overwhelming than Anti-Venom could possibly handle. The fact that you're COMPLETELY DISMISSING the entire history of X-Force and all of the INSANE SHIT they've fought (Stryfe, etc) is absolutely ridiculous. Anti-Venom is cool, but he's so tragically outmatched here it's not even worth responding to this.
Lol then explain yourself
*And Stryfe destroyed them >_>*
#14 Edited by difficlus (10678 posts) - - Show Bio

Antivenom can take them all, only problem in Angel really. Warpath is good but Anti-venom is still too much. I think Brock can take this in the end... 
 
Actually with the prep i think X-force can come up with a plan to take him down but it sure will be hard as heck. 

#15 Posted by SlimJ87D (8913 posts) - - Show Bio

Umm.... is that not a picture of Time Square? I thought they were suppose to be in San Fran...

#16 Posted by Superskrull86 (1831 posts) - - Show Bio
@Enzeru said:
Tough fight.Anti-Venom outclasses them physically. Even Warpath. And I don't see telepathy being much usefull on a bloodlusted Anti-Venom. The white symbiote should keep him going. Anti-Venom also doesn't have a weakness to fire and sonics anymore, is bulletproof thanks to the white symbiote and the white symbiote symbiote would also probably redirect Wolverines the enemies strikes automatically, just like he did it, when the Punisher tried to stab him.  He can create shields and protect himself against attacks, has his tendrils and a lot of experience and brains. He is not Mac Gargan.  But still, what too much is too much, even for him. With combined efforts and a good tactic, they should be able to take him down. They have the attackpower to go through the symbiote and harm Eddie, if they manage to land blows.  With combined efforts they would probably be able to overwhelm him.
#17 Edited by theicon (1797 posts) - - Show Bio

X force beats him

#18 Posted by Chaos Burn (1755 posts) - - Show Bio

Could Archangel speed blitz him and slice him in two?

#19 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - - Show Bio

Which X-force members? cause I think some can solo.
#20 Posted by buttersdaman000 (8796 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edgeworth_11
The ones in the pic
#21 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - - Show Bio

i don't know so much about Anti Venom. Can he survive losing his head?
#22 Posted by ShiZZmAhh (471 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edgeworth_11: punisher shot anti-venom point blank in the back of his head with a shotgun loaded with armor piercing rounds. there was blood and possibly even parts of his brain on the ground. a few seconds later he regenerated and was fine, but im not sure if he could fully regenerate from decapitation.
#23 Posted by Edgeworth_11 (4656 posts) - - Show Bio

What if they cut off his head (Archangel, Warpath or Logan can do it), and Warren flies away with it, its over.  
X-force wins this.
#24 Posted by Illuminatus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edgeworth_11 said:
What if they cut off his head (Archangel, Warpath or Logan can do it), and Warren flies away with it, its over.  X-force wins this.
It's possible. But then again, this is Eddie Brock with a symbiote more advanced than the original Venom symbiote. The symbiote normally excels at fighting groups of enemies, in my opinion. It allows it many more chances to confuse the team as a whole and have them attacking/shooting eachother accidentally.  
 
Warren is the only legitimate threat. I suppose his durability would be enough to tank Brock's attacks and find a way to cut him down.
#25 Posted by Sherlock (7088 posts) - - Show Bio

Just a thought here but couldnt brock heal Warren of his death type stuff?Its not a natural mutation so in theory he should be able to do it.
 
BTW X force still wins

#26 Posted by daak1212 (7840 posts) - - Show Bio

...Damn Im thinking that maybe Elixir can remove the Symbiote by someway but that's just wishful thinking....Not unless your with Domino!
 
Yeah but more than likely Anti Venom should win.  Most agile,strongest,fastest, and lethal here
 
What can Angel do?  Archangel to me is a chump but then again I dont know crap about him.

#27 Posted by daak1212 (7840 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edgeworth_11 said:
What if they cut off his head (Archangel, Warpath or Logan can do it), and Warren flies away with it, its over.  X-force wins this.
What would make you think that it is so easy?
#28 Posted by Enzeru (2954 posts) - - Show Bio
@daak1212 said:
What would make you think that it is so easy?
It's not.
Eddie Brock is a serious opponent for nearly anyone who doesn't outclass him by far. I would even go as far to say, that he is Spider-Mans most competent villain and Spider-Man alone would probably offer them a fairly good fight, if he would be bloodlusted and dead serious (and would have his spider-sense). Anti-Venom lacks the spider-sense, but he is stronger and even slightly faster then Spider-Man. More durable and flexibel thanks to his symbiote.
 
It's a good fight and there is no way or scenario where X-Force would be able to stomp, unless bad writing, where Wolverine simply stabs him and it's over -_-
But as I mentioned it before, that wouldn't be easy, since the symbiote would protect Eddie all the time, so X-Force wouldn't be fighting just against one opponent, but against 1 1/2.