Anti-Monitor vs. Mad Jim Jaspers (Earth-616) & Zero-Hour Parallax

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This is obviously COIE Anti-Monitor. Who wins and why?
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#3  Edited By GamorasBigDaddy

HOM Wanda warps them all out of existence!  
 
LOL 
 
It's funny cause it's true! ;) hehehehe
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#4  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000

COIE AM STOMPS
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#6  Edited By czarny_samael666
@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" COIE AM STOMPS "
Really? I would rather go with Team 2.
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#7  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
@czarny_samael said:
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" COIE AM STOMPS "
Really? I would rather go with Team 2. "
zero hour hal and MJJ are not on a level of power that COIE AM was, the guy was able to wipe out the multiverse and take on a full backed presence spectre
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#8  Edited By King_Saturn
probably the Anti Monitor... but not as easy as folks may think it is...
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#9  Edited By Batosaims7
@GamorasBigDaddy said:
" HOM Wanda warps them all out of existence!   LOL  It's funny cause it's true! ;) hehehehe "

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#10  Edited By Batosaims7

Oh and AM wins

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#11  Edited By negamegas
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Second'd. :D
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@negamegas said:
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Second'd. :D "
So, why exactly did you have to quote me?
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@Batosaims7 said:
" @GamorasBigDaddy said:
" HOM Wanda warps them all out of existence!   LOL  It's funny cause it's true! ;) hehehehe "

 
 
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LMAO XD
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#14  Edited By negamegas
@MrDirector786:
Because. :D 
Horray for Spamage. D: 
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@Batosaims7 said:
"Oh and AM wins "

I think he does as well, but it certainly won't be easy
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#16  Edited By Count Bleck

If the fury could deal with jim jaspers.  So could the Anti-monitor.  I'm no real expert on parallax, heck my expertise is in non-comic book battles, but I'd say he'd be inferior to Anti-monitor at his peak. 

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@Count Bleck said:
"If the fury could deal with jim jaspers.  So could the Anti-monitor.  I'm no real expert on parallax, heck my expertise is in non-comic book battles, but I'd say he'd be inferior to Anti-monitor at his peak.  "

I don't think the Fury beat Earth-616 MJJ
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#18  Edited By Count Bleck
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @Count Bleck said:
"If the fury could deal with jim jaspers.  So could the Anti-monitor.  I'm no real expert on parallax, heck my expertise is in non-comic book battles, but I'd say he'd be inferior to Anti-monitor at his peak.  "
I don't think the Fury beat Earth-616 MJJ "
He did.  He killed him, utterly, completely, entirely. 
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@Count Bleck said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @Count Bleck said:
"If the fury could deal with jim jaspers.  So could the Anti-monitor.  I'm no real expert on parallax, heck my expertise is in non-comic book battles, but I'd say he'd be inferior to Anti-monitor at his peak.  "
I don't think the Fury beat Earth-616 MJJ "
He did.  He killed him, utterly, completely, entirely.  "

Are u sure it wasn't Earth-238 MJJ?
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#20  Edited By Th3 FlAsH 123
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"@Count Bleck said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @Count Bleck said:
"If the fury could deal with jim jaspers.  So could the Anti-monitor.  I'm no real expert on parallax, heck my expertise is in non-comic book battles, but I'd say he'd be inferior to Anti-monitor at his peak.  "
I don't think the Fury beat Earth-616 MJJ "
He did.  He killed him, utterly, completely, entirely.  "
Are u sure it wasn't Earth-238 MJJ? "

According to the Fury's comicvine page, the Fury was created by an alternate MJJ and came to the 616 reality and killed this MJJ. 
If that makes sense.
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@Th3 FlAsH 123 said:
"@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"@Count Bleck said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @Count Bleck said:
"If the fury could deal with jim jaspers.  So could the Anti-monitor.  I'm no real expert on parallax, heck my expertise is in non-comic book battles, but I'd say he'd be inferior to Anti-monitor at his peak.  "
I don't think the Fury beat Earth-616 MJJ "
He did.  He killed him, utterly, completely, entirely.  "
Are u sure it wasn't Earth-238 MJJ? "
According to the Fury's comicvine page, the Fury was created by an alternate MJJ and came to the 616 reality and killed this MJJ. If that makes sense. "

I recall them fighting in Earth-238, where MJJ was not nearly as powerful
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#22  Edited By Th3 FlAsH 123
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"@Th3 FlAsH 123 said:
"@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"@Count Bleck said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @Count Bleck said:
"If the fury could deal with jim jaspers.  So could the Anti-monitor.  I'm no real expert on parallax, heck my expertise is in non-comic book battles, but I'd say he'd be inferior to Anti-monitor at his peak.  "
I don't think the Fury beat Earth-616 MJJ "
He did.  He killed him, utterly, completely, entirely.  "
Are u sure it wasn't Earth-238 MJJ? "
According to the Fury's comicvine page, the Fury was created by an alternate MJJ and came to the 616 reality and killed this MJJ. If that makes sense. "
I recall them fighting in Earth-238, where MJJ was not nearly as powerful "

I think AM wins this no matter the outcome of that.
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#23  Edited By Count Bleck
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @Th3 FlAsH 123 said:
"@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"@Count Bleck said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @Count Bleck said:
"If the fury could deal with jim jaspers.  So could the Anti-monitor.  I'm no real expert on parallax, heck my expertise is in non-comic book battles, but I'd say he'd be inferior to Anti-monitor at his peak.  "
I don't think the Fury beat Earth-616 MJJ "
He did.  He killed him, utterly, completely, entirely.  "
Are u sure it wasn't Earth-238 MJJ? "
According to the Fury's comicvine page, the Fury was created by an alternate MJJ and came to the 616 reality and killed this MJJ. If that makes sense. "
I recall them fighting in Earth-238, where MJJ was not nearly as powerful "
The fury realized the fight was getting nowhere, so he teleported himself and MJJ to a place where there was no reality to warp, then he killed him.
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#24  Edited By czarny_samael666
@Count Bleck said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @Th3 FlAsH 123 said:
"@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"@Count Bleck said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @Count Bleck said:
"If the fury could deal with jim jaspers.  So could the Anti-monitor.  I'm no real expert on parallax, heck my expertise is in non-comic book battles, but I'd say he'd be inferior to Anti-monitor at his peak.  "
I don't think the Fury beat Earth-616 MJJ "
He did.  He killed him, utterly, completely, entirely.  "
Are u sure it wasn't Earth-238 MJJ? "
According to the Fury's comicvine page, the Fury was created by an alternate MJJ and came to the 616 reality and killed this MJJ. If that makes sense. "
I recall them fighting in Earth-238, where MJJ was not nearly as powerful "
The fury realized the fight was getting nowhere, so he teleported himself and MJJ to a place where there was no reality to warp, then he killed him. "
The Fury killed MJJ from 238.
MJJ from 616 defeated it and absorbed it.
MJJ 238 is the weakest  version of Jaspers in multiverse.
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#26  Edited By MichaeltheFly

Anti-Monitor doesn't stand a chance

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#27  Edited By Batosaims7

COIE AM would win here

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#28  Edited By Ziro

I'm leaning towards Anti-Monitor.....
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#29  Edited By mrwenpire

Fight comes down to anti monitor and mad jim jaspers
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#30  Edited By chunjacktao
@Count Bleck said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @Count Bleck said:
"If the fury could deal with jim jaspers.  So could the Anti-monitor.  I'm no real expert on parallax, heck my expertise is in non-comic book battles, but I'd say he'd be inferior to Anti-monitor at his peak.  "
I don't think the Fury beat Earth-616 MJJ "
He did.  He killed him, utterly, completely, entirely.  "

LMAO.  Fury only survived against Mad Jim Jaspers because the Fury was immune to MJJ's reality warping. 
 
Also Fury never beat him fairly.  He had to teleport MJJ to a place where there was no reality to warp.
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#31  Edited By Lance Uppercut
@chunjacktao said:
" @Count Bleck said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @Count Bleck said:
"If the fury could deal with jim jaspers.  So could the Anti-monitor.  I'm no real expert on parallax, heck my expertise is in non-comic book battles, but I'd say he'd be inferior to Anti-monitor at his peak.  "
I don't think the Fury beat Earth-616 MJJ "
He did.  He killed him, utterly, completely, entirely.  "
LMAO.  Fury only survived against Mad Jim Jaspers because the Fury was immune to MJJ's reality warping.  Also Fury never beat him fairly.  He had to teleport MJJ to a place where there was no reality to warp. "
Er, it wasn't immune. Jaspers was still warping the hell out of it. 
 

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#32  Edited By chunjacktao
@Lance Uppercut said:
" @chunjacktao said:
" @Count Bleck said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @Count Bleck said:
"If the fury could deal with jim jaspers.  So could the Anti-monitor.  I'm no real expert on parallax, heck my expertise is in non-comic book battles, but I'd say he'd be inferior to Anti-monitor at his peak.  "
I don't think the Fury beat Earth-616 MJJ "
He did.  He killed him, utterly, completely, entirely.  "
LMAO.  Fury only survived against Mad Jim Jaspers because the Fury was immune to MJJ's reality warping.  Also Fury never beat him fairly.  He had to teleport MJJ to a place where there was no reality to warp. "
Er, it wasn't immune. Jaspers was still warping the hell out of it.   "

So ur saying Jasper can wrap universes and universes, and cannot wrap the fury?
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#33  Edited By Lance Uppercut
@chunjacktao said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @chunjacktao said:
" @Count Bleck said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @Count Bleck said:
"If the fury could deal with jim jaspers.  So could the Anti-monitor.  I'm no real expert on parallax, heck my expertise is in non-comic book battles, but I'd say he'd be inferior to Anti-monitor at his peak.  "
I don't think the Fury beat Earth-616 MJJ "
He did.  He killed him, utterly, completely, entirely.  "
LMAO.  Fury only survived against Mad Jim Jaspers because the Fury was immune to MJJ's reality warping.  Also Fury never beat him fairly.  He had to teleport MJJ to a place where there was no reality to warp. "
Er, it wasn't immune. Jaspers was still warping the hell out of it.   "
So ur saying Jasper can wrap universes and universes, and cannot wrap the fury? "
Care to try reading it again?
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#34  Edited By chunjacktao
@Lance Uppercut said:
" @chunjacktao said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @chunjacktao said:
" @Count Bleck said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @Count Bleck said:
"If the fury could deal with jim jaspers.  So could the Anti-monitor.  I'm no real expert on parallax, heck my expertise is in non-comic book battles, but I'd say he'd be inferior to Anti-monitor at his peak.  "
I don't think the Fury beat Earth-616 MJJ "
He did.  He killed him, utterly, completely, entirely.  "
LMAO.  Fury only survived against Mad Jim Jaspers because the Fury was immune to MJJ's reality warping.  Also Fury never beat him fairly.  He had to teleport MJJ to a place where there was no reality to warp. "
Er, it wasn't immune. Jaspers was still warping the hell out of it.   "
So ur saying Jasper can wrap universes and universes, and cannot wrap the fury? "
Care to try reading it again? "
what I'm saying here is, I don't see how the Fury was supposed to survive against someone who can warp entire universes............ he HAD to be immune to SOME degree....... he wasn't COMPLETELY immune, since he was still hurt by MJJ, but he had to be immune to SOME degree.
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#35  Edited By why so serious

no way in hell they can bet COIE Anti-Monitor

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#36  Edited By RiseofApocalypse

Jaspers solos.

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#37  Edited By why so serious

Jasper is a beast but no way he can beat COIE Anti-Monitor

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#38  Edited By daak1212

Oh boy....tie, reality warper on the level of idk omniversal threat vs extremly strong reality warper and entity

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#39  Edited By RiseofApocalypse
@why so serious:  
Based on?
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#40  Edited By why so serious
@RiseofApocalypse said:

" @why so serious:  Based on? "


   
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#41  Edited By GamorasBigDaddy
@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
"@czarny_samael said:
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" COIE AM STOMPS "
Really? I would rather go with Team 2. "
zero hour hal and MJJ are not on a level of power that COIE AM was, the guy was able to wipe out the multiverse and take on a full backed presence spectre "

Spectra was'nt at full Power!
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#42  Edited By RiseofApocalypse
@why so serious:  
You don't even know who Jaspers is. Jaspers warps the AM and turns him into salt.
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#43  Edited By RiseofApocalypse
@Kal-Koratto:  
No. Jaspers would end this in one second. Go to his respect thread and learn.
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#44  Edited By why so serious
@RiseofApocalypse: 
 
TRUST ME, I KNOW MORE ABOUT JASPERS THEN YOU. THIS IS ONE THING I AM ABSOLUTELY SURE OF.  

 
He's insanely powerful, but Anti-Monitor would be too much.
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#45  Edited By Lance Uppercut
@why so serious said:
" @RiseofApocalypse: 
 
TRUST ME, I KNOW MORE ABOUT JASPERS THEN YOU. THIS IS ONE THING I AM ABSOLUTELY SURE OF.  

 
He's insanely powerful, but Anti-Monitor would be too much. "
You don't know anything about Jaspers. Stop being silly.
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#46  Edited By why so serious
@Lance Uppercut:
 
I know that MJ Jaspers had the potential to be an Omniversal threat and to even become a God of chaos, but how does that put him above the Anti-Monitor exactly????
  The Anti-Monitor was a threat to the entire DC Universe as well, and since he has better feats, I'm gonna go with the Anti-Monitor on this one.
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#47  Edited By ssejllenrad

Anti-Monitor. 
 
First of all, I'm a DC fan. Fanboy fine! But he has a bigger impact than MJJ. So I pick him. That is unless this COIE AM we're talking about was the weakened one that got owned by PC Supergirl. But yeah at his peak I think he can take down MJJ. 
 
Hal is, I think, a non-factor here. But he sure is my favourite of the three.

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#48  Edited By RiseofApocalypse
@ssejllenrad said:

" Anti-Monitor.  First of all, I'm a DC fan. Fanboy fine! But he has a bigger impact than MJJ. So I pick him. That is unless this COIE AM we're talking about was the weakened one that got owned by PC Supergirl. But yeah at his peak I think he can take down MJJ.  Hal is, I think, a non-factor here. But he sure is my favourite of the three. "

The Anti-Monitor that was owned by Supergirl was at full power - The Anti-Monitor that was a threat to DC was amped by anti-mater verse and heroes. 
 
Jaspers solos.
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#49  Edited By FinalStar86
@RiseofApocalypse said:
" @ssejllenrad said:

" Anti-Monitor.  First of all, I'm a DC fan. Fanboy fine! But he has a bigger impact than MJJ. So I pick him. That is unless this COIE AM we're talking about was the weakened one that got owned by PC Supergirl. But yeah at his peak I think he can take down MJJ.  Hal is, I think, a non-factor here. But he sure is my favourite of the three. "

The Anti-Monitor that was owned by Supergirl was at full power - The Anti-Monitor that was a threat to DC was amped by anti-mater verse and heroes.  Jaspers solos. "
I love how you lie and think you're actually fooling people, why don';t you post more of those out of context scans for us
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#50  Edited By RiseofApocalypse
@FinalStar86 said:

" @RiseofApocalypse said:

" @ssejllenrad said:

" Anti-Monitor.  First of all, I'm a DC fan. Fanboy fine! But he has a bigger impact than MJJ. So I pick him. That is unless this COIE AM we're talking about was the weakened one that got owned by PC Supergirl. But yeah at his peak I think he can take down MJJ.  Hal is, I think, a non-factor here. But he sure is my favourite of the three. "

The Anti-Monitor that was owned by Supergirl was at full power - The Anti-Monitor that was a threat to DC was amped by anti-mater verse and heroes.  Jaspers solos. "
I love how you lie and think you're actually fooling people, why don';t you post more of those out of context scans for us "
I've already posted them before. And everyone who has seen them has agreed with me... Other than you. 
 
http://img193.imageshack.us/i/page0036.jpg/  
http://img32.imageshack.us/i/page0037.jpg/  
http://img263.imageshack.us/i/page0038.jpg/  
 
Come on man! Let's hear the lame excuses.