#1 Posted by zebari (515 posts) - - Show Bio

which sith lord wins in a battle each sith for himself.

#2 Posted by lordraiden (6895 posts) - - Show Bio

Sidious>Tyrannus>Vader>Maul

#3 Edited by Vader (139 posts) - - Show Bio

Maul would be the first to fall, Vader would dominate him again. Sidious trained all the other Sith . Tyrannus would fall to Vader easily. Sidious once said "He is powerful. Potentially more powerful than even myself." He said this to Tyrannus. "You will not stop me… Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us." he said this to Yoda
he was stronger in the force than his master and he only could control him by his Force Lightning which his metallic body could not stand. So Emperor probably would win unless Vader uses Force abosorb and dissapates the energy and finishes the Emperor off quickly. So in my order it would be Sidious or Vader then Tyrannus then Maul

#4 Posted by lordraiden (6895 posts) - - Show Bio
Vader said:
"Maul would be the first to fall, Vader would dominate him again. Sidious trained all the other Sith . Tyrannus would fall to Vader easily. Sidious once said "He is powerful. Potentially more powerful than even myself." He said this to Tyrannus. "You will not stop me… Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us." he said this to Yoda
he was stronger in the force than his master and he only could control him by his Force Lightning which his metallic body could not stand. So Emperor probably would win unless Vader uses Force abosorb and dissapates the energy and finishes the Emperor off quickly. So in my order it would be Sidious or Vader then Tyrannus then Maul
"

He did say that to Yoda, and I believe at the time he was saying this, he (Anakin) was fighting Obi and got both his legs cut off and burnt to a crisp! So much for that idea! Everything he COULD have become, died in that instant, and he became mechanical Vader, who is/was but a pale shadow of the power he could wield/become!
#5 Posted by The Joker. (126 posts) - - Show Bio
lordraiden said:
"Vader said:
"Maul would be the first to fall, Vader would dominate him again. Sidious trained all the other Sith . Tyrannus would fall to Vader easily. Sidious once said "He is powerful. Potentially more powerful than even myself." He said this to Tyrannus. "You will not stop me… Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us." he said this to Yoda
he was stronger in the force than his master and he only could control him by his Force Lightning which his metallic body could not stand. So Emperor probably would win unless Vader uses Force abosorb and dissapates the energy and finishes the Emperor off quickly. So in my order it would be Sidious or Vader then Tyrannus then Maul
"

He did say that to Yoda, and I believe at the time he was saying this, he (Anakin) was fighting Obi and got both his legs cut off and burnt to a crisp! So much for that idea! Everything he COULD have become, died in that instant, and he became mechanical Vader, who is/was but a pale shadow of the power he could wield/become!"
not really vader was more powerful than anakin from the get go
#6 Posted by Vader (139 posts) - - Show Bio
lordraiden said:
"Vader said:
"Maul would be the first to fall, Vader would dominate him again. Sidious trained all the other Sith . Tyrannus would fall to Vader easily. Sidious once said "He is powerful. Potentially more powerful than even myself." He said this to Tyrannus. "You will not stop me… Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us." he said this to Yoda
he was stronger in the force than his master and he only could control him by his Force Lightning which his metallic body could not stand. So Emperor probably would win unless Vader uses Force abosorb and dissapates the energy and finishes the Emperor off quickly. So in my order it would be Sidious or Vader then Tyrannus then Maul
"

He did say that to Yoda, and I believe at the time he was saying this, he (Anakin) was fighting Obi and got both his legs cut off and burnt to a crisp! So much for that idea! Everything he COULD have become, died in that instant, and he became mechanical Vader, who is/was but a pale shadow of the power he could wield/become!"
luckily for everyone he didn't lol
He became much more powerful in the force as Armor Vader though. he did lose much of his swordplay based off the fact he was mechinical but would still slaughter Tyrannus in my opinion so maybe Sidious would come out on top but Vader would not fall down so easily as the two others.

on a side note i had heard speculation that Darth Plaguesis is Anakin's father!
#7 Posted by lordraiden (6895 posts) - - Show Bio
The Joker. said:
"lordraiden said:
"Vader said:
"Maul would be the first to fall, Vader would dominate him again. Sidious trained all the other Sith . Tyrannus would fall to Vader easily. Sidious once said "He is powerful. Potentially more powerful than even myself." He said this to Tyrannus. "You will not stop me… Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us." he said this to Yoda
he was stronger in the force than his master and he only could control him by his Force Lightning which his metallic body could not stand. So Emperor probably would win unless Vader uses Force abosorb and dissapates the energy and finishes the Emperor off quickly. So in my order it would be Sidious or Vader then Tyrannus then Maul
"

He did say that to Yoda, and I believe at the time he was saying this, he (Anakin) was fighting Obi and got both his legs cut off and burnt to a crisp! So much for that idea! Everything he COULD have become, died in that instant, and he became mechanical Vader, who is/was but a pale shadow of the power he could wield/become!"
not really vader was more powerful than anakin from the get go"

Anakin is Vader, trying to see the logic in that one? After Anakin lost that fight to Obi, he lost alot of his body, one would assume he lost a fair bit of his midichlorian count, and his ability to be what he could have been! Mechanical Vader, I believe, is a mere pale shadow of what Anakin Vader could have been, but that's just my opinion :-)
#8 Posted by Vader (139 posts) - - Show Bio
lordraiden said:
"The Joker. said:
"lordraiden said:
"Vader said:
"Maul would be the first to fall, Vader would dominate him again. Sidious trained all the other Sith . Tyrannus would fall to Vader easily. Sidious once said "He is powerful. Potentially more powerful than even myself." He said this to Tyrannus. "You will not stop me… Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us." he said this to Yoda
he was stronger in the force than his master and he only could control him by his Force Lightning which his metallic body could not stand. So Emperor probably would win unless Vader uses Force abosorb and dissapates the energy and finishes the Emperor off quickly. So in my order it would be Sidious or Vader then Tyrannus then Maul
"

He did say that to Yoda, and I believe at the time he was saying this, he (Anakin) was fighting Obi and got both his legs cut off and burnt to a crisp! So much for that idea! Everything he COULD have become, died in that instant, and he became mechanical Vader, who is/was but a pale shadow of the power he could wield/become!"
not really vader was more powerful than anakin from the get go"

Anakin is Vader, trying to see the logic in that one? After Anakin lost that fight to Obi, he lost alot of his body, one would assume he lost a fair bit of his midichlorian count, and his ability to be what he could have been! Mechanical Vader, I believe, is a mere pale shadow of what Anakin Vader could have been, but that's just my opinion :-)"

If Vader remained human he would indeed be stronger for these reasons

 

  1. He would be able to use Force Lightning and all its forms
  2. advancing himself in swordsmanship to beyond great levels
  3. His cybernetic breathing system restricts him as well as his metal legs can move at his original speeds but if he was human....

 

#9 Posted by Light (9257 posts) - - Show Bio

anakin is vader in the sense that they share the same body but besides that they  are different


your force power doesn't depend on how many cells you have on your body its about how well your in tuned with the force...

I mean even grievous was highly in tune with the force, which allowed him to be deadly with a lightsaber

and in case you didn't notice vader was abled to cause a low scale eruption because he was angry

when anakin was angry he did no such thing at any point in time so imo vader is one of the most powerful jedi in history and more powerful than anakin
#10 Posted by lordraiden (6895 posts) - - Show Bio
Light said:
"anakin is vader in the sense that they share the same body but besides that they  are different

your force power doesn't depend on how many cells you have on your body its about how well your in tuned with the force...

I mean even grievous was highly in tune with the force, which allowed him to be deadly with a lightsaber

and in case you didn't notice vader was abled to cause a low scale eruption because he was angry

when anakin was angry he did no such thing at any point in time so imo vader is one of the most powerful jedi in history and more powerful than anakin
"
Ah, yeah, just don't really see the logic in your post, or how you came to the conclusion that Vader (couldn't be one of the most powerfull jedi cause he isn't one) and there's more sith that are much more powerfull that him! That eruption, as you put it, was pretty minor and small scale! Palpatine has destroyed a whole fleet of ships with the force :-)
#11 Posted by Vader (139 posts) - - Show Bio
Light said:
"anakin is vader in the sense that they share the same body but besides that they  are different

your force power doesn't depend on how many cells you have on your body its about how well your in tuned with the force...

I mean even grievous was highly in tune with the force, which allowed him to be deadly with a lightsaber

and in case you didn't notice vader was abled to cause a low scale eruption because he was angry

when anakin was angry he did no such thing at any point in time so imo vader is one of the most powerful jedi in history and more powerful than anakin
"
i believe he was referring to Vader as a standard human in the prophecy which i also believe.  Vader would actually be stronger as a human if given the chance. i am not saying he isn't already powerful just he would be more powerful as a human. He was hella strong i mean if Starkiller can stop a hundred of thousands ton Star Destroyer that means Vader could best that still.
#12 Posted by Vader (139 posts) - - Show Bio

heres some sith lords that are stronger than armored Vader

  1. Nihilius
  2. Bane
  3. possibly Krayt

to name a few.....Sidious did stop a fleet of star ships huh?

#13 Posted by Light (9257 posts) - - Show Bio
Vader said:
"heres some sith lords that are stronger than armored Vader
  1. Nihilius
  2. Bane
  3. possibly Krayt

to name a few.....Sidious did stop a fleet of star ships huh?

"
the thing is these were sith master of the old republic and they had a much larger repetoire of force powers than the empires age of sith lords 
#14 Posted by Light (9257 posts) - - Show Bio
lordraiden said:
"Light said:
"anakin is vader in the sense that they share the same body but besides that they  are different

your force power doesn't depend on how many cells you have on your body its about how well your in tuned with the force...

I mean even grievous was highly in tune with the force, which allowed him to be deadly with a lightsaber

and in case you didn't notice vader was abled to cause a low scale eruption because he was angry

when anakin was angry he did no such thing at any point in time so imo vader is one of the most powerful jedi in history and more powerful than anakin
"
Ah, yeah, just don't really see the logic in your post, or how you came to the conclusion that Vader (couldn't be one of the most powerfull jedi cause he isn't one) and there's more sith that are much more powerfull that him! That eruption, as you put it, was pretty minor and small scale! Palpatine has destroyed a whole fleet of ships with the force :-)
"
sorry i meant sith and just bec. there are ppl. much more powerful than him doesn't mean he isnt one of the most powerful and if palpatine had all that power why couldn't he stop a weakened vader from throwing him over the edge?? i say bec. he isn't as powerful in the force as he is believed to be
#15 Posted by Vader (139 posts) - - Show Bio
Light said:
"Vader said:
"heres some sith lords that are stronger than armored Vader
  1. Nihilius
  2. Bane
  3. possibly Krayt

to name a few.....Sidious did stop a fleet of star ships huh?

"
the thing is these were sith master of the old republic and they had a much larger repetoire of force powers than the empires age of sith lords "
Krayt was in the Rule of One era of the sith which took place after Vader. He fought againstcade skywalker Vader's Grandson.

Nihilius was insane with the force and would tear the force from your body pretty much. Bane was a master of Lightning storm and rarely used anything besides that
#16 Posted by Light (9257 posts) - - Show Bio
Vader said:
"Light said:
"Vader said:
"heres some sith lords that are stronger than armored Vader
  1. Nihilius
  2. Bane
  3. possibly Krayt

to name a few.....Sidious did stop a fleet of star ships huh?

"
the thing is these were sith master of the old republic and they had a much larger repetoire of force powers than the empires age of sith lords "
Krayt was in the Rule of One era of the sith which took place after Vader. He fought againstcade skywalker Vader's Grandson.

Nihilius was insane with the force and would tear the force from your body pretty much. Bane was a master of Lightning storm and rarely used anything besides that
"
doesn't Nihilius somewhat remind you of Galactus in a sense bec. of the way he feeds on the force
#17 Posted by Vader (139 posts) - - Show Bio
Light said:
"Vader said:
"Light said:
"Vader said:
"heres some sith lords that are stronger than armored Vader
  1. Nihilius
  2. Bane
  3. possibly Krayt

to name a few.....Sidious did stop a fleet of star ships huh?

"
the thing is these were sith master of the old republic and they had a much larger repetoire of force powers than the empires age of sith lords "
Krayt was in the Rule of One era of the sith which took place after Vader. He fought againstcade skywalker Vader's Grandson.

Nihilius was insane with the force and would tear the force from your body pretty much. Bane was a master of Lightning storm and rarely used anything besides that
"
doesn't Nihilius somewhat remind you of Galactus in a sense bec. of the way he feeds on the force"
now that you said that he kinda does. He was ridiculously powerful as well.
#18 Posted by Light (9257 posts) - - Show Bio

surely and to add to the list Darth Revan

#19 Posted by Vader (139 posts) - - Show Bio

revan was indeed strong, he defeated darth malak but i don't know if he would be considered a sith because he turned into a jedi later...

#20 Posted by Light (9257 posts) - - Show Bio

well he was darth revan but you have a point there

#21 Posted by Vader (139 posts) - - Show Bio

some more powerful siths were Marka Ragnos, Naga Shadow and Exar Kun

#22 Posted by Light (9257 posts) - - Show Bio

I never heard of Ragnos and Exar Kun was powerful indeed... i dont know much about Naga Shadow

#23 Posted by Vader (139 posts) - - Show Bio
Light said:
"I never heard of Ragnos and Exar Kun was powerful indeed... i dont know much about Naga Shadow"

Ragnos was before Shadow and was blue, he looked awesome. Naga was more of a sorcerer than a warrior but was very strong in the force, he spent most of his time in the meditation chamber.

check them out on the star wars wiki if you get a chance. Naga and Ragnos did not use sabers but sith swords
#24 Posted by Light (9257 posts) - - Show Bio

hmmm like Ajunta Paul?

#25 Posted by Vader (139 posts) - - Show Bio
Light said:
"hmmm like Ajunta Paul?"

im not familiar with him.
#26 Posted by Light (9257 posts) - - Show Bio
Vader said:
"Light said:
"hmmm like Ajunta Paul?"

im not familiar with him."
well he had this poison filled sith blade and when you open his sarcophagus for the sword he appears and ensnares you in a trance and then questions your affiliation to the dark side. If you fail the quiz he attacks you if you pass he lets you leave with no quarrel.

I'm gong to get some rest peace man... I'll check out Star Wars wiki as well
#27 Posted by Vader (139 posts) - - Show Bio

peace

#28 Posted by Constantine (16046 posts) - - Show Bio

Well seeming vader has beaten all those people......he wins