Anakin from episode 3
and naruto as strong as he could possible be
no morals who wins why
@KingOfAsh said:
@ThunderGodsWrath: What will he do when his throat is closed up?
What will he do when there is a multi mountain destroying bijju bomb in his face?
@Veravin said:
Naruto uzumaki, BTWN SUBSTITUTION JUTSU,SHADOW CLONES,sage mode, GIANT RASENGAN,YELLOW FLASH SPEED, NINE TAILS CLONE,NINE TAILED DEMON FOX.. HE IS kind of unstoppable, AND P.S NARUTO IS IMMORTAL, CAN AGE;but cant die... Thanks to the kyubbi that can ressurect him.
Well, If I remember right, when kyubi breaks free, naruto dies. And when kabuto sliced his network, he was about to die.
Naruto should be too fast, though. But exactly how fast I am not certain.
Would anybody tell me how fast Naruto can strike and move?
@ShootingNova said:
Naruto should be too fast, though. But exactly how fast I am not certain.
Would anybody tell me how fast Naruto can strike and move?
Naruto is said to be hypersonic via powerscaling and calculations. Although that's just his movement and reaction speed. His striking speed is uncertain, but also probrably very fast seeing as he performed a mountain busting bijuu bomb in a split second.
Naruto. His speed is far greater, and I don`t think Anakin would be able to react fast enough but with prep he curshes Naruto.
@Veravin said:
@PrinceAragorn1: but he didnt did he? and besides that replication was painfully induced
It was tsunade who healed him.. Kyubi was all like "its getting dark.. why? " and stuff..
Why use the movie versions?The EU versions are so much more powerful.
Naruto defeats episode 3 Anakin quite easily.
@PrinceAragorn1 said:
Replacement.
But if he is getting choked to death, generating clones will mean nothing because Anakin can sense their fallacy and Naruto (the real one) still dies.
@SpideyPresence: Anakin has dodged lightning and reacted to sub-light speed movement, so maybe this isn't a speedblitz after all.
@ShootingNova said:
@PrinceAragorn1 said:
Replacement.
But if he is getting choked to death, generating clones will mean nothing because Anakin can sense their fallacy and Naruto (the real one) still dies.
Well, use the basic replacement jutsu.. And, naruto's clones are exactly similar in every aspect.. They can't be sensed apart, and even if they are, doesn't mean they can't attack..
@ShootingNova said:
@SpideyPresence: Anakin has dodged lightning and reacted to sub-light speed movement, so maybe this isn't a speedblitz after all.
Hmm yes. But what's anakins defense against clones spamming bijuu bombs. One bijuu bomb has multi mountain buster capabilities.
@PrinceAragorn1: I doubt Naruto could replace himself with a clone while being choked to death, and Anakin could just end him with a saber-stroke as well while he is being choked.
I'm not necessarily saying Anakin wins, though.
@ShootingNova said:
@PrinceAragorn1: I doubt Naruto could replace himself with a clone while being choked to death, and Anakin could just end him with a saber-stroke as well while he is being choked.
I'm not necessarily saying Anakin wins, though.
Well, kakashi did that, though.. also, if he goes into bijju mode at the time, it'll be tough to choke a huge nine tailed fox, right? or even the four tailed form.. It's skin was tough enough to stop the thrust of kusanagi sword.. It's not going to be pressed in easily.
@PrinceAragorn1: How fast can he enter modes like that? I was under the impression he couldn't simply do that at will.
@ShootingNova: Considering he's at good terms with the nine tails now, he can do it quite fast, he did it within a second when pein killed hinata.. Bee entered full tailed beast mode pretty quickly as well. Also, if he's being choked, the kyubi would take over, as he usually does when naruto's about to die or gripped by strong emotion..
@ComocYahweh said:
Naruto easily, Eu would be a different story though.
This.
EU Anikin would most likely win Naruto, or at least only loose to the 9 tails.
naruto wins easily if he is at Strong as can be even if anakin can use the force naruto can make chakra hands come out of his body and then anakin would lose concentration then game over
In fact I do not even think Naruto is faster then Anakin (I admit I stopped reading naruto at around volume 50 so I do not know much about current Naruto so he most likely have better speed feats)
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
In fact I do not even think Naruto is faster then Anakin (I admit I stopped reading naruto at around volume 50 so I do not know much about current Naruto so he most likely have better speed feats)
You sure need to catch up..
@PrinceAragorn1:
Well, use the basic replacement jutsu.. And, naruto's clones are exactly similar in every aspect.. They can't be sensed apart, and even if they are, doesn't mean they can't attack..
This is false. In every instance where Naruto has taking serious damage, his closes went away. If the real naruto is force choked he will not keep the jutsu
@PrinceAragorn1 said:
@ShootingNova: Considering he's at good terms with the nine tails now, he can do it quite fast, he did it within a second when pein killed hinata.. Bee entered full tailed beast mode pretty quickly as well. Also, if he's being choked, the kyubi would take over, as he usually does when naruto's about to die or gripped by strong emotion..
This really don't change anything. Getting choked is getting Choke. He could have 9 tails take over and just get choked out. 9 tails already said if Naruto dies, he dies. 9 tails his taking over naruto's body and his body still needs air. So, this changes nothing him getting choked out or forced crushed.
@ShootingNova said:
@PrinceAragorn1: How fast can he enter modes like that? I was under the impression he couldn't simply do that at will.
Currently Naruto can enter in to his fox cloak mode extremely fast. His sage mode requires about 3 minutes of prep time.
@hudyman said:
Spite thread, i can't even be bothered to explain all the reasons why anikin would loose to naruto but ill just sum it up by saying......
Rasengan.....
This post is silly.
@Bossmonster said:
@PrinceAragorn1:
Well, use the basic replacement jutsu.. And, naruto's clones are exactly similar in every aspect.. They can't be sensed apart, and even if they are, doesn't mean they can't attack..
This is false. In every instance where Naruto has taking serious damage, his closes went away. If the real naruto is force choked he will not keep the jutsu
Any examples?
@PrinceAragorn1 said:
This really don't change anything. Getting choked is getting Choke. He could have 9 tails take over and just get choked out. 9 tails already said if Naruto dies, he dies. 9 tails his taking over naruto's body and his body still needs air. So, this changes nothing him getting choked out or forced crushed.
1. When 9 tales takes over, his chakra surrounds naruto's body, to protect him. We don't know if force can penetrate through that.
2. If he goes into four tailed form, his durability increases insanely. (He stopped sword of kusanagi directly). So, choking naruto in 4 tailed form is not going to be easy as choking a regular human.
3.If he turns into a full bijju, what are the chances he could still be choked? considering it's quite a huge creature?
And notably, Naruto's mind and the fox chakra's minds are different (sasuke said so in his first fight with naruto). If naruto's getting choked from a distance, a chakra arm could stretch and bang skywalker off.
@Bossmonster said:
@PrinceAragorn1 said:
@ShootingNova: Considering he's at good terms with the nine tails now, he can do it quite fast, he did it within a second when pein killed hinata.. Bee entered full tailed beast mode pretty quickly as well. Also, if he's being choked, the kyubi would take over, as he usually does when naruto's about to die or gripped by strong emotion..
This really don't change anything. Getting choked is getting Choke. He could have 9 tails take over and just get choked out. 9 tails already said if Naruto dies, he dies. 9 tails his taking over naruto's body and his body still needs air. So, this changes nothing him getting choked out or forced crushed.
If Naruto gets the cloak on or goes into sage mode it's over, except if he's against EU Anakin.
EU Anakin can't compete on Naruto's level movement wise (at least for very long), but he can react and defend to Naruto's quick strikes all day, making a Force Choke a real option here. The only thing is, if Naruto get caught he still has options, and even if he's stuck, if the Kyubi takes over, the force choke will break for sure as Anakin's FC isn't, I repeat, is not stronger than Pein's gravity ball (or whatever it's called) and it will break out quite easily forcing Anakin back.
The only thing I can see Anakin doing to a raging 9-tails is running and hitting it with force pushes, throwing large objects at it, or hitting it with long rang LS throws, other wise he'll get run over. The 9-tails isn't like anything I've seen in the SWU so I have very little confidence he would win against it.
@PrinceAragorn1 said:
@Bossmonster said:
@PrinceAragorn1:
Well, use the basic replacement jutsu.. And, naruto's clones are exactly similar in every aspect.. They can't be sensed apart, and even if they are, doesn't mean they can't attack..
This is false. In every instance where Naruto has taking serious damage, his closes went away. If the real naruto is force choked he will not keep the jutsu
Any examples?
@PrinceAragorn1 said:
This really don't change anything. Getting choked is getting Choke. He could have 9 tails take over and just get choked out. 9 tails already said if Naruto dies, he dies. 9 tails his taking over naruto's body and his body still needs air. So, this changes nothing him getting choked out or forced crushed.
1. When 9 tales takes over, his chakra surrounds naruto's body, to protect him. We don't know if force can penetrate through that.
2. If he goes into four tailed form, his durability increases insanely. (He stopped sword of kusanagi directly). So, choking naruto in 4 tailed form is not going to be easy as choking a regular human.
3.If he turns into a full bijju, what are the chances he could still be choked? considering it's quite a huge creature?
And notably, Naruto's mind and the fox chakra's minds are different (sasuke said so in his first fight with naruto). If naruto's getting choked from a distance, a chakra arm could stretch and bang skywalker off.
The only ones I can think of are Naruto Vs Pain and Naruto vs Orochimaru. Two fights where his clones vanished because of a lose of his control or damage.
1)Battles on comic vine take place in a neutral world. The force, flows through all things. It's not TK. Jedi have the to tell the force to do something. Thus, Cloak or not cloak. Skywalker will tell the force to choke him to death and it will happen.
2)See the answer above. It pretty much addresses this.
3)LOL. See the answer above this one.
4)This is true however, Skywalker isn't defenseless while doing this. Jedi use the force during combat naturally. It's not reasonable that he couldn't choke him out and defend with his light saber. Or simply snap his fingers to prevent the formation of hand seals.
@Bossmonster said:
@PrinceAragorn1 said:
@Bossmonster said:
@PrinceAragorn1:
Well, use the basic replacement jutsu.. And, naruto's clones are exactly similar in every aspect.. They can't be sensed apart, and even if they are, doesn't mean they can't attack..
This is false. In every instance where Naruto has taking serious damage, his closes went away. If the real naruto is force choked he will not keep the jutsu
Any examples?
@PrinceAragorn1 said:
This really don't change anything. Getting choked is getting Choke. He could have 9 tails take over and just get choked out. 9 tails already said if Naruto dies, he dies. 9 tails his taking over naruto's body and his body still needs air. So, this changes nothing him getting choked out or forced crushed.
1. When 9 tales takes over, his chakra surrounds naruto's body, to protect him. We don't know if force can penetrate through that.
2. If he goes into four tailed form, his durability increases insanely. (He stopped sword of kusanagi directly). So, choking naruto in 4 tailed form is not going to be easy as choking a regular human.
3.If he turns into a full bijju, what are the chances he could still be choked? considering it's quite a huge creature?
And notably, Naruto's mind and the fox chakra's minds are different (sasuke said so in his first fight with naruto). If naruto's getting choked from a distance, a chakra arm could stretch and bang skywalker off.
The only ones I can think of are Naruto Vs Pain and Naruto vs Orochimaru. Two fights where his clones vanished because of a lose of his control or damage.
1)Battles on comic vine take place in a neutral world. The force, flows through all things. It's not TK. Jedi have the to tell the force to do something. Thus, Cloak or not cloak. Skywalker will tell the force to choke him to death and it will happen.
2)See the answer above. It pretty much addresses this.
3)LOL. See the answer above this one.
4)This is true however, Skywalker isn't defenseless while doing this. Jedi use the force during combat naturally. It's not reasonable that he couldn't choke him out and defend with his light saber. Or simply snap his fingers to prevent the formation of hand seals.
I think his clones disappeared because kyubi took over, not because damage to main body.
1. ok
2 and 3. The point is, is he even strong enough to choke someone with that level of durability?
4. The problem is, analkin will still have to deal with about (at least) 10 people with teleportion level speed. And, what's stopping naruto to replace himself with a clone? Like kakashi always does? (Twice in the first part: once when naruto beats up his own clone instead, and second when zabuza's minions attack.) Kyubi's chakra doesn't even need hand seals anyway.. he could do something like this:
http://manga.animea.net/naruto-chapter-231-page-12.html
Doesn't using force require concentration? It's tough to concentrate if you're being thrown around..
@PrinceAragorn1 said:
I think his clones disappeared because kyubi took over, not because damage to main body.
1. ok
2 and 3. The point is, is he even strong enough to choke someone with that level of durability?
4. The problem is, analkin will still have to deal with about (at least) 10 people with teleportion level speed. And, what's stopping naruto to replace himself with a clone? Like kakashi always does? (Twice in the first part: once when naruto beats up his own clone instead, and second when zabuza's minions attack.) Kyubi's chakra doesn't even need hand seals anyway.. he could do something like this:
http://manga.animea.net/naruto-chapter-231-page-12.html
Doesn't using force require concentration? It's tough to concentrate if you're being thrown around..
1) Fair point. However, it seemed to me that he was in pain. Which is why I say that. But you could very much be correct to. So, I don't know.
2/3 : As I said, I don't believe it is a matter of Durability. As Grand Master Yoda (I feel cool typing that.) said. "Size matters not." I know we are talking durability not size, but the point of the statement is, it doesn't matter what you are doing, but how strong your will is to do the job. At then end of ROTS, his rage was crushing steel pipes and bars and quaking the very ground and room. So if he can crush steel, it's far to say he can crush the throat of an amped Naruto.
4 Very true. However, Skywalker has a weapon that is sure to kill Naruto. His light Saber will not be stopped by Charkra. That I'm sure we can both agree on. So Close combat doesn't favor Naruto. Moreover, if Naruto does replace himself with a clone, why would it fool anyone who can feel movement in the force? When he replaces himself, it will be noticed. He won't have the element of surprise as his location will always be known.
Yes it does. But from what I understand Most Lightsaber forms require the person to constantly use the force. So in battle, I don't think it will be much of a hindrance. However, I admit finer details like that are a bit beyond me and you may consider asking @ShootingNova the limits of his force use in battle.
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