Anakin Skywalker vs Luke Skywalker

Both in their prime? I give it to Luke in a tight one. Both have amazing natural talent.

Considering that Vader was more than a match for Luke, I would have to give it to Anakin. Sure, maybe he was less experienced in his youth, but his body was in far better condition.

Luke Skywalker.

Canon Luke doesn't have the feats to box with Ani.

Anakin for the majority.

What version of Luke we talking about here? Legends or Current/ROTJ?

Luke. He was always better.

@dccomicsrule2011:

Yeah he does

@serpinethegreen:

What has canon Luke done to put himself on Anakin's level? He has some neat speed and dueling feats - but his power showing can't compare.

@leo-343: Yeah, EU Luke could wreck with a simple gesture, if he really wanted, too.

@dccomicsrule2011: well if we count eu then he had so many more than anakin

But...if but here is another way to look at it

Darth vader in ROTJ was his canon best

And luke beat him

And it's been stated that darth vader is above dooku

I'm not a fan of abc logic but since anakin best feat is beating dooku

And lukes is beating his superior

I can't help but think luke is a bit above anakin

Also if you take into consideration that anakin lost to obi wan who (much like luke) fights smart If in charater anakin would lose.

Canon anakin wins by a hair. Legends luke absolutely murders him

@serpinethegreen:Vader isn't Anakin's prime. As Vader, his body had deteriorated and aged.

@tadpoleon: re-read what I wrote I never said that

@serpinethegreen: You wrote that Vader is Anakin's canon best. I'm arguing that Vader couldn't be him at his best because of his deterioration.

Still, canon beats my logic. Where does it say Vader is Anakin's best?

@tadpoleon: no I wrote that ROTJ vader was vaders canon best

Legends Luke would murderstomp but movie/canon is a close fight. Anakin would take the majority if it was ROTS Anakin vs ROTJ Luke. He's had more training than Luke and his light saber dueling is far more impressive

@serpinethegreen: What happened between episode 2 & 3 to make episode 3 Vader so powerful?

Shouldn't Vader from all three movies be about the same?

Based off of what I have seen, it depends on which Luke. If we are using his accomplishments from his comic run, then he may be too much for Anakin. Then again using the movie series feats as well as the ones from the clone wars anime, makes it a little harder to call. This is pretty tough for me.

Are we talking both in their prime? Because if so, Grandmaster Luke wins, absolutely no contest (unfortunately, because I hate Luke). If we're talking movies, and there's no "Oh, I don't wanna hurt my son/father" crap, Anakin wins. But since I assumed both in their and EU included, Anakin at his best was absolutely NO match for Grandmaster Luke (who, btw, became the most powerful force user in history, not including the celestials). Luke wins, almost by blitz.

Well Technically Vader IS Anakin's prime. While Anakin lost most of his raw potential do to disfigurement, he became far more refined and skilled as a fighter and force user. As Anakin, he relied on his natural talent to win fights and never really practiced the way he should have and so remained sub-par. As Vader, he became so skilled that between Episodes 3 and 4, while hunting down the Jedi, he at one point took on 12 fully trained Jedi Knights at once...and won. As Anakin, he would have never been able to pull that off. That fight was in one of the comic series.

@tadpoleon: what happened between two and three too make luke so powerful?

Obviously answer? He trained

Why?

Because vader was better than him

And a similar thing happened to vader

He wasn't weaker than luke...but he knew luke would get stronger, stronger in the force, and with the lightsaber

Now luke was already showing promise on there first battle, vader actually beat him with the force if you recall

So now vader had a reason to get better, he had an opponent worthy to train for.....that and it says in the book that he had got stronger

Whatever the reason whether it was what I said or not ROTJ vader is vaders canon best and luke is stated to be his equal, at the very least, he did of course beat him.

@criostomp: although I agree with a lot of this

Anakin probably could take on twelve jedi since he beat dooku, his lack of feats doesn't mean he couldn't achieve them

....also eu I'm this op isn't counted so that feat doesn't count....sorry

Luke beats anakin no doubt

But don't lowball him either

I think its awesome that you think this, for Canon versions anyway, but you support EU ROTJ Luke over EU ROTS Anakin too? Just wondering.

Yes and no. In terms of age, Vader was only in his mid-40's, which for a Force user of his caliber is nothing to worry about. He also had his mechanical prosthetics to boost his physical attributes. However, in terms of his mastery over the force and experience he is far more skilled than he ever was as Anakin Skywalker, which is why some might say that ROTJ was Vader at his peak, and not ROTS on Mustafar. His potential was diminished, but he'd still learned more and come farther with the Force than he had previously.

@tadpoleon: it's stated in the literature version of ROTJ

Can go either way in my opinion.

So long as Luke doesn't bring up Padme.

@serpinethegreen: Thanks! Glad to know you're willing to back up your claims ^^

Your comment on Vader's training makes sense. Is this canon, or just speculation?

Speaking of training, that brings up another point.

Anakin began adventuring with Qui Gon and Obi Wan at the tender age of nine,and from there received formal training at the Jedi Academy. Luke's first experience in battle was as a young adult, and while he did receive training it was fairly rushed (albeit from some of the greatest Jedi to ever live). While Anakin is emotional and prone to outbursts, he would never forget all that he has learned.

Episode 3 Anakin > Episode 6 Luke

Grand Master Luke > any Anakin/Vader

Anakin vs. ANH Luke (Anakin)

Anakin vs ESB Luke ( closer but still Anakin)

Anakin vs ROTJ Luke (Luke in a close one)

Anything after Luke wins then begins stomping at DE and above

Canon Luke vs. Anakin (Anakin)

Anakin would probably win either Canon or Legends, tbh.

That's what I was thinking. Luke isn't really sporting any noteworthy advantages whereas Anakin is leaps and abounds above his son in terms of Force prowess.

Luke.

Which Luke? If it's D.E. Luke or post, he'd certainly stomp. If it's simply RoTJ Luke, he'd get stomped, or atleast lose for a solid majority, depending on if you're taking EU into account.

I if this is only movie feats for both characters than I will give the slight edge to Anakin due to better physical ability and imo he has much better dueling ability than Luke did I mean he duel with Dooku on equal footing and win and Dooku was the most fastest duelist during that time and he praise Anakin for his skills now force abilities I will give the edge to Luke to me he was a much better Force user than his dad before he turn into Vader when he was Vader his force skills has gotten better but before he was a duelist at heart so thats how I see it again if this is only movie version

Bingo.

Didn't the cybernetic components work as an amp for Anakin after he became Vader? They made him stronger, gave him a further reach (both his arms and legs got longer after the implants). I was always under the impression that ROTJ Vader was at his strongest.

You can't really use "better swordplay from anakin" as a strong argument against Luke; fight choreography came a long way over the course of time.

Also: Why would we think he weakened drastically after less than two decades when Jedi and Sith with whom the Force is strong seem to live for centuries?

Luke takes this, because in ROTJ, Luke took it. It was a decisive victory.

@rickythanos: I agree about Vader that is the strongest version of Anakin and disagree but I don't think Luke would win against pre Vader Anakin

Luke.

Yeah my vote is to Anakin as long its ROTJ Luke. Legends and Canon versions of ROTS Anakin win against ROTJ Luke.

FYI in canon the suit slowed Vader down incredibly much... Anakin seriously takes this easily, he shown faster combat speed and skill.

Darth Vader was slower than Anakin; however, didn't he refine his skills and ability through all that time as Vader? I was always under the impression that Vader was a better fighter than Anakin.

I think this would go to Luke, because he did defeat Vader, who I believe was more skilled and a better fighter than he was as Anakin.

Note: I've only watched the movies.

Have you seen his face?

That can't be healthy...

Anakin from ROTS wins against any iteration of Luke Skywalker, even more so if he is Knightfall Anakin.

Prime Luke is an Anakin who actually reached his full potential. He easily stomps his father.

He never did tho so he can't win, especially since Anakin was listed as the most powerful Jedi (and force-user) ever.

@antifreddykrueger:

In legends, he absolutely did. Why wouldn't he have? He lived a full life and died of old age.

In canon he is stomped, but legends is his prime and that version of Luke stomps.