Anakin, Obi-Wan & Ahsoka vs. Revan & Bastila

Anakin Skywalker as of Revenge of the Sith.

Obi-Wan Kenobi as of Revenge of the Sith.

Ahsoka Tano as of The Clone Wars: Season 5.

Revan as of Shadow of Revan.

Bastila Shan as of Knights of the Old Republic.

Battle takes place on Hypori.

Round 1: Everyone's in-character.

Round 2: Everyone's in a bloodlust.

Round 1: Team 1

Round 2: Team 1

@fated_xtasy@i_like_swords@shootingnova@darthant66@jedixman@silentbat@erkan12

Anakin holds up Revan while Obi-Wan and Ahsoka hastily defeat Bastila. If Anakin hasn't already beaten Revan, they triple team him and win in a hard fight.

Same for both rounds?

@kj27: More or less.

Ahsoka matches Bastila by herself, and Anakin does Revan. With Obi Wan its a guaranteed win for Team 1.

Good match. This is how i see it going down.

Round 1:

I see this match going to Team 1, but just barely. Obi-Wan and Anakin will coordinate against Revan as they did/do with Dooku, while Ahsoka confronts Bastila. Obi-Wan and Anakin would most likely force Revan on the defensive with their superior lightsaber skills and that would force revan to draw his force powers and send the one with the lowest force defense(In another words Kenobi) flying. Which will result in Anakin going into his Rage and defeating Revan.

As for Ahsoka and Bastila. I think that ahsoka will provide a good challenge for Bastila. Being highly accomplished as a duelist and equally as skilled as a duelist. I think this is going to end in Ahsoka's favor, as while Bastila is impressive, she's only fought a good duelist on a nexus(Star Forge). While her battle with Jolee, Juhani and Revan is impressive. The latter two are virtually featless and former is really the only one of note, not to mention that these three fought through Dark Jedi, Sith troopers and droids to get to bastila but despite that, she still failed to defeat them. Her fight with Malak is somewhat impressive, but again, she alongside Revan and Carth Onasi had to fight through numerous Soldiers, Dark Jedi and Soul Karath and his personal guards before Malak. She obviously wasn't fighting at her peak, it's stated that she is no match for Malak and Malak has been trying to capture her since her first appearance, thus showing that his intent was not to kill, but rather to capture.

As for round 2:

Again Anakin has done some incredible things while enraged, we've seen what a bloodlusted Ahsoka can do(although she was most likely empowered by the Son) even Kenobi has had moments of utter rage. I'm going with team one. in a much tougher fight than the first round.

Team 1

Revan can stomp both Obi-Wan or Anakin with the force, but since this is at the same time, Revan doesn't have enough saber competency to hold his own against this duo.

Team 1 should take this.

No way Ashoka can take on Bastila and win...

Team 1 probably hass the better chance, though Team 2 can also take this. Bastila defeats Ashoka while Revan holds off the other 2, maybe defeats one then they focus on the other, or:

Obi-Wan takes down Bastila in a good fight as Revan faces both Ashoka and Anakin, taking at least Ashoka out, then it can go both ways, so I'll say Team 2 6/10

Team 1 both rounds.

Team 1. Both rounds.

Not sure. Like Ant said, depends on tactics.

Bastilla uses Battle Meditation.

It's super effective!

You would need to be one heck of a debater to make someone believe team 2 would win.

Team One for Round One. But I could see Team Two winning the second round if Revan quickly dispatches Ahsoka and Obi-Wan with the Force.

Bastila wouldn't use Battle Meditation in a small-scale fight like this, and if she did, she'd be completely vulnerable to external attack. Anakin would give Revan all he could handle - the other two are free to cut down Bastila and then dogpile Revan. And in a straight fight, Bastila's no match for Obi-Wan and Ahsoka either. Team 1 wins. The only conceivable victory is if Revan destroys Obi-Wan and Ahsoka with the Force just as Anakin demolishes Bastila in a fight, then it's between the two of them, and while I do believe Anakin would win the majority, Revan should at least win some rounds. I'd refrain from saying team 1 wins every time, but they do win.

Bastila's Battle Meditation would probably affect Ahsoka and Obi-Wan, but the effects on somebody vastly more powerful than her, like Anakin, should be considerably lessened.

Team 1 probably

Uhhh Obi-wan would get wrecked by Revan via force powers. Kind of his weakness.

However Anakin would probably engage Revan hard & neutralize him while Asoka & Obi dispatch of Balista. Furthermore I'm not certain Revan can handle Anakins style at all. The only reason Obi could beat him is he released himself to the force while focusing on defense to survive his onslaught. Obi may be the greatest form III practitioner to ever exist. He would disarm Balista like nothing.

Blood lusted Anakin would kill them both. Rage is his ally. He would smoother them.

The deaths of Obi-Wan/Ahsoka could very easily spur Anakin into a state of Force Rage, which would be pretty devastating for Revan. The other thing to note is that Anakin has sometimes simply performed better than usual, as a result of his unnaturally high Force power/potential. He's the only one here who has done something like that before, but it's unlikely. Still, I find Rage to be a plausible factor here.

Indeed. Obi-Wan/Ahsoka dying wouldn't bode well for the Revan/Bastila team.

Any more Revan/Bastila supporters?

Revan held against Satele, Theron, Darth Marr, Shae Visla, Lana Beniko, Jakkaro, and the PC (potentially all 8 class stories) at the same time. He solos team 1.

And Anakin isn't the same ?

@erkan12: No, he's not.

@thevivas: Really ?

@erkan12: Is that supposed to prove something?

@thevivas: Yep, that force choke from Dooku proves Anakin's weakness.

@erkan12: No, not really. Nice try lowballing though.

I think Revan and Bastila win both rounds.

@reikai: None of those Fodder you mentioned is the chosen one.

not while he's using force Rage. No he's not the same. Otherwise Dooku would've used it to take him out. Anakin goes into rages. Obi lets the force move through him. Anakin can essentially shrug off attacks like that with little to no damage. Hate is his ally.

Dooku has more skill incorporating force attacks (Form VI Niman) & physical strikes than Revan. Revan in the books seems very focused on his force abilities. Revan used Form V reversed grip Shien in some pictures, what looks like Shii-choo on the cover of his book, in the games he does lots of acrobatics from Ataru, others show Jar'kai with a shoto & regular lightersaber. Likely I think Revan is a Niman/Jar'kai master. Proficient at all. Master of none. Therefor I don't believe his defense would be tight enough to hold against Anakins assault. No one can go head to head with Skywalker in a contest of force rage.

@thevivas: considering that Anakin gets tossed, choked and zapped by Dooku and Ventress pretty regularly shows that his defenses against force powers is rather lacking. Against a force juggernaut like Revan, Anakin might as well be made of straw.

@reikai: So getting Force pushed by Dooku is a low end feat now? What has the world come to nowadays.

That's the same reason why people say Obi-Wan has a weak force defense.

This are RoTS movie Obi Wan and Anakin right?, how are they winning against Revan and bastilla? If we were talking about TCW and EU depictions, they have more feats to back them and i would give this to team 1 (anakin's raw power and the enrage possibility...hand down), but movie versions are nothing compared to Revan and Bastilla. Nothing.

If this is how im understanding it: RoTS movie version (and Ashoka) vs TOR Revan and Bastilla is a mismatch imo.

Why people lowball videogame created SW characters so much and then overrate movie versions to insane levels? movie versions are the weakest versions ive ever encountered.

Except Dooku does way more than just Force push him.

@linark: RotS just means it's those versions of the characters up and until that time, Canon and Legends/EU included.

@thevivas: no it doesn't unless the op specifically states it. Until then we only go by official canon, which is Disney canon right now; the prequel movies and the TCW tv series.

@thevivas: Aaaaa ok ok, then Team 1 both rounds

@erkan12: Dooku has never endeared himself to me as being very powerful. Much of the PT figures I find are just incredibly weak in terms of force abilities when compared to TotJ/KOTOR era figures. A lot of hype for Dooku without a whole lot of substance.

We look at Revan from a story perspective, and he blows everyone else out of the water. As of SoR, he's taking on eight of the most powerful and skilled people in the entire galaxy. As the actual story to defeat Revan involves a joint strike force from the Republic and Sith factions, that would mean that all eight class stories are banded together to bring Revan down. Those figures would be;

The Barsen'thor (Jedi Consular)

Hero of Tython (Jedi Knight)

Havok Commander (Trooper)

Underworld King (Smuggler)

Emperor's Wrath (Sith Warrior)

Heir of Kallig (Sith Inquisitor)

The Ghost Cipher (Imperial Agent)

Grand Champion (Bounty Hunter)

All of the above have killed scores of Jedi/Sith/Mandalorians in their careers, and Revan is still the toughest SOB any of them have ever encountered. This including Soa the Infernal One and the Dread Masters who can solo who fleets by mind-f**ckery. The only one who trumps Revan right now is the Sith Emperor, Vitiate.

Even in the solo campaign, the entire team gets ragdolled by Revan for most of the fight.

God, the Revan wank is real.

Anyway, Anakin and Obi Wan are more than enough to take on the Revan and Bastilla. Seriously. Their feats in the novels are not as impressive as Anakins and Obi Wans. Plus they have much better team work than team 2.

Adding Ahsoka is a bonus for team 1. She aid Anakin while Obi Wan dispatches of Bastilla. Anakin is strong enough to take on Revan.

Seriously Revans feats are not that impressive.

@reikai: Yeah, no. Since the OP is using Legends/EU characters, then we use both.

@thevivas: Correct.

It's hilarious that Revan ragdolls them and then loses to them. I don't think that interpretation's valid. lol

LOL, team 1 bum rush ftw.

Team 1 should win both rounds. Ahsoka can beat Bastila honestly and Anakin on his own can match/beat Revan, with Kenobi he'd get creamed.

@thevivas said:

Uh, no. Op did not specify Anakin, Ben and Ahsoka were EU. They are Disney Canon unless specifically noted otherwise. Revan and Bastila only exist in Bioware Canon.

It does since he only loses to plot in the solo campaign. At least in the Operation we can say the 8man team of All Class Stories is just too much power. Considering the Heir of Kallig is an up-an-coming Sith Emperor and the Wrath possesses a portion of Vitiate's power bestowed on him.

And now, just for giggles.

@reikai: There is no "Bioware Canon." Anything Star Wars that's not part of the main Canon(six movies, TCW, Rebels, etc.) is Legends/EU.