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#1  Edited By never give up
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Amazo would win, by duplicating Zooms abilities.

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#3  Edited By Mind_Games

Amazo for the win here.

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#4  Edited By castleking

can amazo copy a non jla member?

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#5  Edited By Zoom

Can this Amazo absorb abilities?  I can't keep track of which Amazo is which.

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#6  Edited By Perfect Cell

Amazo is hardcore.

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#7  Edited By never give up

Yes this amazo can copy zoom abilities.

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#8  Edited By castleking

cool waited for ever for the answer now that i know i can safely say amazo

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#9  Edited By Mind_Games

Yup good old amazo.

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#10  Edited By Zoom

How fast does the duplication work?  What's the range of it?

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#11  Edited By The_Scourge

if amazo could duplicate zooms abilities then amazo wins

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#12  Edited By never give up
Zoom said:
"How fast does the duplication work?  What's the range of it?"
IDK...
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#13  Edited By Zoom
never give up said:
"Zoom said:
"How fast does the duplication work?  What's the range of it?"
IDK..."

I ask because even with Superman's strength and Flash's speed, Zoom can beat down Amazo and run out of range of his powers.  Back and forth until the android is down.

That is, if the range is sufficiently short enough and it takes sufficiently long enough for Amazo to absorb a power.

And if Zoom knew this about Amazo (we tend to assume everybody knows just as much about the other guy as we do, which isn't the case most of the time).  He might, as a criminal profiler but he might very well not seeing as most Amazos are essentially robots and he's more of an expert on rogues/speedsters.
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Can Amazo replicate time manipulative abilities?

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Can Amazo replicate time manipulative abilities?

Doesn't matter. Zoom would shove a fist through the android's fast before he can even react. The man can cover every square inch of the globe in under a second.

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@redmonkeyssj4 said:

Can Amazo replicate time manipulative abilities?

Doesn't matter. Zoom would shove a fist through the android's fast before he can even react. The man can cover every square inch of the globe in under a second.

Yeah, i remember this scan of him and Wally fighting around the world, depicting superman as a motionless statue, yeah I'd say either way Zoom still wins.

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Zoom wins, too fast or I should say, Amazo is too slow.

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@redmonkeyssj4 said:

Can Amazo replicate time manipulative abilities?

Doesn't matter. Zoom would shove a fist through the android's fast before he can even react. The man can cover every square inch of the globe in under a second.

Yeah, i remember this scan of him and Wally fighting around the world, depicting superman as a motionless statue, yeah I'd say either way Zoom still wins.

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#20  Edited By patrat18

Zoom goes back in time and kills Ivo.

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Amazo stomps. He by default, has Wally's speed. Then the other JL powers. Zoom can't do anything to him.

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Amazo stomps he took out half the justice league in 5 minutes

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Amazo wins. He has wallys speed to start with. When he copies zooms abilities, it does it for him.

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Amazo wins. He has wallys speed to start with. When he copies zooms abilities, it does it for him.

^ he took half the marvels abilities

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@lowlaville said:

Amazo wins. He has wallys speed to start with. When he copies zooms abilities, it does it for him.

^ he took half the marvels abilities

No. Just no. Wally amped with Jay and Bart's speed still couldn't even see Zoom. He was a blur. There is no way Amazo will be able to to even fathom the speed that Zolomon is going at.

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#26  Edited By lowlaville

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: Uh... A green lantern tagged zoom. You are forgetting, Amazo has access to combined speed of GL, Superman and Flash.

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@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: Uh... A green lantern tagged zoom. You are forgetting, Amazo has access to combined speed of GL, Superman and Flash.

He was fighting numerous enemies and probably got caught off guard. Amazo is just one opponent. He gets one-shotted. And his speed doesn't work that way. He either uses the speed of Green Lantern, Superman, or Flash. Even if that is the case, Zoom was pretty even with Wally with the combined speed of Jesse Quick (after he absorbed the speed of Jay and Bart).

Keep in mind Wally is remarked as the fastest Flash out of the entire family.

Zoom is fast enough to fight Wally West and leave the battle without him even noticing.

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I don't see Amazo competing with this. There's just no way.

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Zoom. Amazo won't even get a chance to blink before he's knocked out and even if Zoom doesn't kill him immediately, he'll be moving too fast for Amazo to see him and duplicate his powers.

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@lowlaville: you are forgetting, zoom is not a bad guy, he lets the heros win, he wants to make the heros better heros

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Right firstly there will be no speed blitz by zoom AMAZO has soloed the JLA pretty much in every encounter they've had that includes flash and he is just about zoom level (he might be equal or above but I'm not sure) and wally or Barry have never had luck against him so neither will zoom.Another thing AMAZO usually has all the JLA preset powers and then he would win even easier

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Right firstly there will be no speed blitz by zoom AMAZO has soloed the JLA pretty much in every encounter they've had that includes flash and he is just about zoom level (he might be equal or above but I'm not sure) and wally or Barry have never had luck against him so neither will zoom.Another thing AMAZO usually has all the JLA preset powers and then he would win even easier

Zoom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All Flash's and JLA combined.

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@eternityx: well I underestimated him but hasn't flash been able to compete with him all AMAZO has to do is look at him and then zoom will lose and if flash can manage to look at him so can AMAZO (I also assume he has TP resistance right?)

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#33  Edited By lowlaville

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: You need to also factor in that zoom does not have the physical capacity to hurt Amazo. He slows down time, but hes still human, unlike flash.

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@eternityx: well I underestimated him but hasn't flash been able to compete with him all AMAZO has to do is look at him and then zoom will lose and if flash can manage to look at him so can AMAZO (I also assume he has TP resistance right?)

Thats a fair point. The moment battle begins, Zoom loses.

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@lowlaville: I thought he had the negative speed force or at least prof zoom does I'm not to sure if there different people are they?

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@eternityx: well I underestimated him but hasn't flash been able to compete with him all AMAZO has to do is look at him and then zoom will lose and if flash can manage to look at him so can AMAZO (I also assume he has TP resistance right?)

Zoom can move fast enough that even the Flash can't see him when he wants. Someone has uploaded scans of this above. Also, Amazo wouldn't get the chance to use TP on Zoom.

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@lowlaville: I thought he had the negative speed force or at least prof zoom does I'm not to sure if there different people are they?

Sppedsters like flash accelerate themselves. Zoom is the opposite. He slows down time. No matter how fast Zoom seemes, he does not have velocity. Even at the best of his speeds, he is still just walking, or something like that.

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@lowlaville: @eternityx: AMAZO only has to last the smallest amount of time with zoom and he has his powers and as lowlaville pointed out apparently he dose'nt have the physical means to harm AMAZO due to him slowing everything else down instead of speeding himself up and also AMAZO could last long enough to just get one look and then it's all over one more point is he would defiantly last over a second and that's all he needs to launch a telepathic assault and knock zoom out.

Ps not to sure about the physical power bit but apparently it's true so

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@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: You need to also factor in that zoom does not have the physical capacity to hurt Amazo. He slows down time, but hes still human, unlike flash.

Wrong. His punches sent Wonder Woman around the globe.

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Amazo's punches did nowhere near that type of damage.

Add that to the fact that he can punch a million times in a second or so, and Amazo is going to be reduced to a pile of junk.

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Zoom. Way too fast

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Could go either way.

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Zoom can just go back in time to stop Amazo from ever being created

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@lowlaville: @eternityx: AMAZO only has to last the smallest amount of time with zoom and he has his powers and as lowlaville pointed out apparently he dose'nt have the physical means to harm AMAZO due to him slowing everything else down instead of speeding himself up and also AMAZO could last long enough to just get one look and then it's all over one more point is he would defiantly last over a second and that's all he needs to launch a telepathic assault and knock zoom out.

Ps not to sure about the physical power bit but apparently it's true so

He hits harder than Superman when he's taking it easy so I'm pretty sure he can hurt Amazo. Also we don't know the limits to how much Zoom can slow time down, so a single second to Amazo could be a day in Zoom's view. Also even the Flash, who is no where near Zoom's speed, is resistant to TP because his mind is too fast, so I'm going to assume that Zoom has that same resistance but better because he's faster.

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@eternityx: Are you guys talking about Professor Zoom or Zoom? Because the zoom Im talking about just slows down time to appear to be faster. The zoom you are talking about, Professor Zoom, the one using negative speed force is of course, stronger.

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@eternityx: Are you guys talking about Professor Zoom or Zoom? Because the zoom Im talking about just slows down time to appear to be faster. The zoom you are talking about, Professor Zoom, the one using negative speed force is of course, stronger.

Zoom is much stronger and faster than Professor Zoom. And yes we're talking about the same Zoom.

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@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: You need to also factor in that zoom does not have the physical capacity to hurt Amazo. He slows down time, but hes still human, unlike flash.

Wrong. His punches sent Wonder Woman around the globe.

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Amazo's punches did nowhere near that type of damage.

Add that to the fact that he can punch a million times in a second or so, and Amazo is going to be reduced to a pile of junk.

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Nope. That's speculation and conjecture. He's never thrown a million Superman level punches. Ever. Assuming he can throw as many high level punches as weak punches is illogical and flawed thinking.

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#48  Edited By lowlaville

One little fact you guys have to remember is, Amazos cells are made from adaptive nanotech, he doesnt just copy powers, he can adapt to take hurt. That means, his physical structure can take a lot. He has reformed from an eternity time bomb, or something. All he needs to do is scan Zoom, and its game over. Amazo is indestructible except under a nanotech deassembler cannon (or whatever it was called). Otherwise, his cells has the capability to cope with any situation, even self destruction as was shown.

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@darkraiden: He holds back against all of the heroes. Regardless even one of those punches would wreck Amazo. Even millions of weak punches have affected the likes of Superman before. Why do you think Flash can defeat upper-tier characters?

Question: Which zoom are you talkiing about. The professor or the other zoom? @yourneighborhoodcomicgeek

Hunter Zolomon Zoom. The Professor would stomp this. He can stop time.

One little fact you guys have to remember is, Amazos cells are made from adaptive nanotech, he doesnt just copy powers, he can adapt to take hurt. That means, his physical structure can take a lot. He has reformed from an eternity time bomb, or something. All he needs to do is scan Zoom, and its game over. Amazo is indestructible except under a nanotech deassembler cannon (or whatever it was called). Otherwise, his cells has the capability to cope with any situation, even self destruction as was shown.

How can he scan something he can't see? Zoom is way too fast. There's no way Amazo can keep up.

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@darkraiden: He holds back against all of the heroes. Regardless even one of those punches would wreck Amazo. Even millions of weak punches have affected the likes of Superman before. Why do you think Flash can defeat upper-tier characters?

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Question: Which zoom are you talkiing about. The professor or the other zoom? @yourneighborhoodcomicgeek

Hunter Zolomon Zoom. The Professor would stomp this. He can stop time.

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One little fact you guys have to remember is, Amazos cells are made from adaptive nanotech, he doesnt just copy powers, he can adapt to take hurt. That means, his physical structure can take a lot. He has reformed from an eternity time bomb, or something. All he needs to do is scan Zoom, and its game over. Amazo is indestructible except under a nanotech deassembler cannon (or whatever it was called). Otherwise, his cells has the capability to cope with any situation, even self destruction as was shown.

How can he scan something he can't see? Zoom is way too fast. There's no way Amazo can keep up.

I thought Professor Zoom was the weaker one.