AMAZO vs Super Adaptoid

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AMAZO VS Super Adaptoid (who would win???) discuss your answers!

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Dont know much about these guys but after reading up on their powers it seems like they are pretty much the same character, so if that's the case than I guess you can just flip a coin to pick a winner

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#3  Edited By TifaLockhart

In HeroClix, Amazo.

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#4  Edited By shenron

My bet is on Amazo, though in truth this is one of the most evenly matched fights ever.

It's is like JLA in a body vs Avengers in a body

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#6  Edited By Delek_Reap

Can't they just both copy each other's powers and become pretty much exactly the same?

Actually I don't know a lot about comic book AMAZO. I just know in the Justice League Animated Series he could copy powers, and all I know about Super Adaptoid is that he has the Avengers powers.

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@shenron said:

My bet is on Amazo, though in truth this is one of the most evenly matched fights ever.

It's is like JLA in a body vs Avengers in a body

If that is the case (Amazo being JLA in a body and Adaptoid being Avengers in a body), this isn't an even match at all. We already know the Avengers get stomped in every thread with JLA vs Avengers, and considering this is basically the same except with their powers in one body, it is an even harder stomp.

Adaptoid has no answer to Flash's speed, Martian Manhunters mindfucking, Batman and WW H2H, etc.

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#8  Edited By TheComicHub

well i say AMAZO Only because hes already has the powers of the JL and hes traveled the universe already and gained TONS of power in JL: unlimited tv series

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@tacos_kickass: Amazo and Super-Adaptoide has basically the same power set,butunlike theAdaptoidehe not onlycopies thepowers,but alsocanabsorbthem and magnify to greater levels. Another majorsimilarity and differencebetween the twoboth cannotcopy theabilitiesof non superpowered,but Amazo can replicate Batman's intelligence (He did it druing Brad Meltzer's run in JLA). Even he lost the other powers,hewould still havethe powers andabilitiesof theoriginal7members (Not to mention his own powers). Without others powers Adaptoide has no powerbyhimself.

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They couldn't each others abilities because they are both androids.

Or at least lets play the game that way

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@killemall:

I would like to see You here, since there are a lot of people picking up Amazo, while IMO You will be with SA.

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stalemate, rationally

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@czarny_samael666: I have not actually read up on Super Adaptoid at all, apart from the one story arc in Avengers where he faced off against Kubik and copied his powers. Sorry man, dont know enough about Super Adaptoid to make a case.

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@killemall: After that he was defeated by Captain America,because he couldn't overcome his will and fighting spirit (defeat him in h2h). Later Kubik,remove a portion of the cosmic cube stored in it's body and put Adaptoid in hibernation,in the latest appearance that I can remember he was controlled by Phalanx to catch Phyla-Vell,but was defeated because tricked in order to him to use his imagination, what he does not have

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@matchesmalone21: Thanks although Super Adaptoid wasnt defeated because he couldnt overcome Captain America's will and fighting spirit, nor was he beaten in h2h, but rather by plot.

Adaptoid had already copied Captain America's strength, speed, agility as well as fighting skill, but he had an inherent advatange over Captain America, while Captain America would tire he wouldnt. Captain America however tricked him because of his ego, to quote Captain America

Captain claimed human are superior because they can die while Super Adaptoid cannot, in reply , to prove his superiority Super Adaptoid dies.

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@killemall: You're welcome. Marvel always treat Super-Adaptoid as a jobber,he's one of the most underused characters and always loses because of the plot..

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I can remember he was controlled by Phalanx to catch Phyla-Vell,but was defeated because tricked in order to him to use his imagination, what he does not have

What? He was defeated because he crashed into a floating asteroid. It knocked him out cold, and this was while he allegedly had the combined durability of all the Avengers.

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Well, think of this, A.M.A.Z.O. has all the powers of the Justice League and Super-Adaptoid has all the powers of the Avenger's. Well, if A.M.A.Z.O. copies the powers of Super-Adaptoid and Super-Adaptoid does the same to A.M.A.Z.O., wouldn't they be evenly matched....there would be no winner.

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Super-Adaptoid can copy objects too, Mjolnir/nega-bands/Iron Man armor. Does Amazo do that too?

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@doubleaa54: Amazo not onlycop/absorb,but also magnify powers to great levels what Super-Adaptoid can't do.

@robertloucksjr:Amazo can copy anything,he already copy Gl's ring,Wonder Woman Lasso,Hawkman's mace,Green/Red's Arrow bows,Batman's gadgets,Hourman's worglog.

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If that is the case (Amazo being JLA in a body and Adaptoid being Avengers in a body), this isn't an even match at all. We already know the Avengers get stomped in every thread with JLA vs Avengers, and considering this is basically the same except with their powers in one body, it is an even harder stomp.

Not necessarily. There is a difference in one vs. one due to redundancies in powers. Easy illustration:

  1. Who wins, 25 Green Lanterns vs. 1 Green Lantern? Obviously 25.
  2. Who wins, Amazo who copied 25 Green Lanterns vs. Amazo who copied 1 Green Lantern? Stalemate (assume all 25 are same species).

It doesn't matter that Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman, and Superman are all physically strong, since only the strongest will pass on their power. You'll find a lot of the JL powers become redundant (strength/speed/durability/flight etc.)

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I'll vote for Amazo. In part, because of the more powerful beings it has copied, but mainly because the Super Adaptoid limited to the number of entities it can copy at one time (eight IIRC), and I don't think that Amazo has such a limitation. That coupled with it's lack of imagination put the Super Adaptoid at a significant disadvantage IMO.

Of course, it could all hinge on what eight beings the SA copies, and whether or not Amazo is functioning at the poor level of performance it was when Batman took it down solo (well, Nightwing helped a little.)

Amazo over Adaptoid, 7-8/10.

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They copy each other til they explode

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depends what powers they have

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Amazo's just a better version of the Adaptoid. Granted, the Adaptoid has copied composites like Mimic, but this is a different spin all together, and I can't see Quicksilver speed matching to Wally.

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#34  Edited By IntentDebatThor

Amazo is a better power replicatior in every way. He doesn't get overloaded when copying too many powers, he actually combines and uses them somewhat creatively, something Adaptoid is incapable of doing, he doesn't have a problem with copying weird artifacts (unlike Adaptoid), his best showing (copying Worlogog) is much better than Adaptoid's unassisted showings and he doesn't get screwed over by powers he copies like Adaptoid frequently does.

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Amazo is a better power replicatior in every way. He doesn't get overloaded when copying too many powers, he actually combines and uses them somewhat creatively, something Adaptoid is incapable of doing, he doesn't have a problem with copying weird artifacts (unlike Adaptoid), his best showing (copying Worlogog) is much better than Adaptoid's unassisted showings and he doesn't get screwed over by powers he copies like Adaptoid frequently does.

To be fair, that's not 100% true considering there's been occasions where Adaptoid has used powers combined (like QS speed with Hercules' strength, or adding two character's speed together to catch someone, stacking TP to effect someone easier) but yeah, Adaptoid is mostly just using one power at a time.

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#37  Edited By NinjaWarrior268

Amazo seems to have had better powers more often than Adaptoid, therefore a larger capacity for speed and power. Going with Amazo.