Amazo(JLU) vs OF Thor and Silver Surfer

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Amazo killed everyone on Earth and these two are left to defend

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Amazo from the JLU show

Comic versions of Thor(OF) and Silver Surfer

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Amazo seeing how he killed everyone on Earth already...

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Duo stomps. Amazo has virtually no speed(reaction) feats, which will be exploited by Silver Surfer. Also, we don't know how well his durability is. Also, if I recall Amazo has no attack against magical beings(seeing as he served no purpose vs Grundy), and guess who has magic? Thor!

People really overpowered that Amazo. I mean who's to blame him, the JLU show op'ed everyone(and UP'ed everyone also).

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Amazo seeing how he killed everyone on Earth already...

I meant he killed all the regular Human beings, not the heroes.

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Duo stomps. Amazo has virtually no speed(reaction) feats, which will be exploited by Silver Surfer. Also, we don't know how well his durability is. Also, if I recall Amazo has no attack against magical beings(seeing as he served no purpose vs Grundy), and guess who has magic? Thor!

People really overpowered that Amazo. I mean who's to blame him, the JLU show op'ed everyasone(and UP'ed everyone also).

he has all of the powers of the league. he has the flashes speed, supes strenght, green lantern's ring, etc...

why was amazo a good guy on that show? is there a good version of amazo running around pre-52 dc somewhere?

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Either solos.

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Either team members solo.

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this isn't a fair fight. he could beat both of them with little effort.

A.M.A.Z.O., better known simply as The Android or Profesor Ivo's Android, was a nanotechnogical creation of the late Professor Ivo. Amazo's nanotechnology enabled him to copy any trait and characteristic of people and objects, by merely looking at them.

Contents

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History

Origins

Amazo's original look.

Amazo was found by Lex Luthor, when looking for Professor Ivo to repair his battlesuit. The Android was protecting Ivo's corpse. As soon as Luthor realized that the android was capable of duplicating the Justice League's powers, he took advantage of the android's naiveté, saying that now Ivo was dead he would look after AMAZO, saying that is what Ivo would have wanted, and tried to pit him against the heroes. AMAZO was sent to steal fuel for Luthor.

Amazo went on a rampage to attract the League's attention. He broke into the facility by copying a guard's fingerprints. Having already assimilated Hawkgirl's mace and wings of flight, Amazo replicated Wonder Woman's powers and bracelets, John Stewart's power ring, and Flash's super-speed. With all their powers combined, Amazo soon overpowered the Leaguers. When Superman showed up to try to stop him, he succeeded in emulating the Man of Steel's powers, despite Superman's best efforts to prevent it.

Amazo engaging Superman with the Justice League's powers.

However, when Amazo duplicated someone's power, he also took in their weaknesses, i.e., Superman's vulnerability to Kryptonite, which Batman exploited after the android tried to copy him. As the android assimilated other traits, he also started to develop character, and began to question Luthor's intentions. Despite his skepticism, Amazo again was persuaded by Luthor to try and kill the League.

"None of you has anything to offer me now".

This time Amazo "adapted" and overcame his weakness to Kryptonite. The combined power of Amazo and Luthor nearly succeed in killing the Leaguers until J'onn J'onzz stepped in and allowed himself to be copied. Amazo acquired the Martian's power of telepathy and used it to read Luthor's thoughts, learning of Luthor's manipulations. At this point, Luthor activated a failsafe killswitch developed by Ivo to detonate the bomb at the base of the android's brain. However, having also duplicated J'onn's shapeshifting powers, Amazo could now regenerate himself and simply regrew his head. The disgruntled android turned against Luthor, tearing his battlesuit apart and preparing to kill him. Amazo only ceased his attack when the terrified Luthor pleaded for mercy. Upon realizing that he had nothing left to learn from Earth, Amazo gazed upon the cosmos, evolved into a gold version of himself, and departed to explore the universe. J'onn claimed Amazo had departed to go "where gods belong," prompting Luthor to scoff that Amazo is no god. Superman replied that Luthor should be worried if Amazo ever did come back.

Return

Amazo returns and confronts Lex Luthor in micro space.

Some time later, Amazo embarked on his return to Earth, and on his way, he transported Oa to another dimension. The League assumed he had vaporized the planet, so they set up three defense layers to protect Earth. However, Amazo was now nearly omnipotent and he beat them all without effort. He set off after Lex Luthor, determined to kill him. The Atom and Luthor worked to try and defeat Amazo by devising a nanotechnological weapon against him. Amazo at this point was no longer nanotechnological, and therefore Luthor's defenses were useless against him. The Atom took Luthor into a microscopic world, but Amazo followed them. Amazo, above everything else, was confused about his own existence. He was made to evolve, but he didn't know what he was evolving into, or what his purpose was.

Amazo engages Solomon Grundy.

Luthor convinced him that the reason to keep on living is to see where it all leads to, and that each person must make their own purpose. Enlightened, Amazo relinquished his vendetta against Luthor. After the three grew back, many Green Lanterns arrived to try and destroy Amazo for apparently destroying Oa, however he revealed what had really happened. After restoring Oa back to its original place, he departed with Dr. Fate, who proposed to help him in his search for meaning.

Amazo stayed with Dr. Fate until Solomon Grundy was resurrected as a mindless berserker. The android tried to stop him by teleporting him into the sun, but the zombie ― filled with chaos magic ― absorbed and repelled Amazo's cosmic blast. So as to prevent Grundy from becoming stronger, Amazo teleported himself several light-years away until he could figure out how to solve the problem at hand. Amazo has not been heard or seen since then.

Indirect inspiration

During the Cadmus Crisis, Luthor created a second Amazo android (with his own face), intending to transfer his mind into it, having a photographic memory he was able to memorize the plans when the Atom showed them, but was stopped when Amanda Waller destroyed it with a nano-disassembler beam based from Luthor's designs to take down the original android.

Powers and abilities

Originally, Amazo had the ability to copy one's powers, natural abilities, equipment, and DNA signature simply by looking at them.

Amazo first used his ability to replicate superhuman attributes and weaponry from six of the seven founding members of the Justice League. Subsequently, during Amazo's travels through the universe, he evolved to a nigh-omnipotent state that could easily outmatch the whole expanded League. In his enhanced state, he has flight, super strength, invulnerability, vast energy manipulation, psionic powers like telepathy and telekinesis, super-hearing, can teleport himself across unknown distances, shrink into a subatomic universe, shunt entire planets to other dimensions and just as easily bring them back unharmed with a blink of an eye. Amazo could effortlessly break through a force field created from the combined power of a few dozen Green Lanterns.

All of these enhancements have made Amazo quite possibly the single most powerful being ever known in the DCAU.

Background information

Amazo debuted in The Brave and the Bold Vol. 1 #30 (June 1960), and was created by Gardner Fox and Mike Sekowsky. He was a power-adapting android, created by the mad scientist Professor Ivo, who was trying to find a way to cheat death. Ivo created absorption cells that could imitate the genetic traits of others, incorporated them into an android, and pitted him against the Justice League of America. The concept of the android's power was retconned several times throughout its course. Originally he was programmed with specific powers, depending on the heroes he was up against. Only until recently did he gain the ability to imitate his opponents' powers by proximity. Amazo clashed with various superheroes on numerous times, only to be destroyed and rebuilt again.

In the Justice League episode "Tabula Rasa", the League discovered Ivo's blueprints for the android, labeled "A.M.A.Z.O.". It was never revealed what these letters stood for in the DCAU version of the character. The name "Amazo" was not an acronym in the comics. Only once is the name "A.M.A.Z.O." actually spoken

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Team stomp.

JLU Amazo is the definition of overrated.

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Team stomps/solos.

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this isn't a fair fight. he could beat both of them with little effort.

A.M.A.Z.O., better known simply as The Android or Profesor Ivo's Android, was a nanotechnogical creation of the late Professor Ivo. Amazo's nanotechnology enabled him to copy any trait and characteristic of people and objects, by merely looking at them.

Contents

[show]

History

Origins

Amazo's original look.

Amazo was found by Lex Luthor, when looking for Professor Ivo to repair his battlesuit. The Android was protecting Ivo's corpse. As soon as Luthor realized that the android was capable of duplicating the Justice League's powers, he took advantage of the android's naiveté, saying that now Ivo was dead he would look after AMAZO, saying that is what Ivo would have wanted, and tried to pit him against the heroes. AMAZO was sent to steal fuel for Luthor.

Amazo went on a rampage to attract the League's attention. He broke into the facility by copying a guard's fingerprints. Having already assimilated Hawkgirl's mace and wings of flight, Amazo replicated Wonder Woman's powers and bracelets, John Stewart's power ring, and Flash's super-speed. With all their powers combined, Amazo soon overpowered the Leaguers. When Superman showed up to try to stop him, he succeeded in emulating the Man of Steel's powers, despite Superman's best efforts to prevent it.

Amazo engaging Superman with the Justice League's powers.

However, when Amazo duplicated someone's power, he also took in their weaknesses, i.e., Superman's vulnerability to Kryptonite, which Batman exploited after the android tried to copy him. As the android assimilated other traits, he also started to develop character, and began to question Luthor's intentions. Despite his skepticism, Amazo again was persuaded by Luthor to try and kill the League.

"None of you has anything to offer me now".

This time Amazo "adapted" and overcame his weakness to Kryptonite. The combined power of Amazo and Luthor nearly succeed in killing the Leaguers until J'onn J'onzz stepped in and allowed himself to be copied. Amazo acquired the Martian's power of telepathy and used it to read Luthor's thoughts, learning of Luthor's manipulations. At this point, Luthor activated a failsafe killswitch developed by Ivo to detonate the bomb at the base of the android's brain. However, having also duplicated J'onn's shapeshifting powers, Amazo could now regenerate himself and simply regrew his head. The disgruntled android turned against Luthor, tearing his battlesuit apart and preparing to kill him. Amazo only ceased his attack when the terrified Luthor pleaded for mercy. Upon realizing that he had nothing left to learn from Earth, Amazo gazed upon the cosmos, evolved into a gold version of himself, and departed to explore the universe. J'onn claimed Amazo had departed to go "where gods belong," prompting Luthor to scoff that Amazo is no god. Superman replied that Luthor should be worried if Amazo ever did come back.

Return

Amazo returns and confronts Lex Luthor in micro space.

Some time later, Amazo embarked on his return to Earth, and on his way, he transported Oa to another dimension. The League assumed he had vaporized the planet, so they set up three defense layers to protect Earth. However, Amazo was now nearly omnipotent and he beat them all without effort. He set off after Lex Luthor, determined to kill him. The Atom and Luthor worked to try and defeat Amazo by devising a nanotechnological weapon against him. Amazo at this point was no longer nanotechnological, and therefore Luthor's defenses were useless against him. The Atom took Luthor into a microscopic world, but Amazo followed them. Amazo, above everything else, was confused about his own existence. He was made to evolve, but he didn't know what he was evolving into, or what his purpose was.

Amazo engages Solomon Grundy.

Luthor convinced him that the reason to keep on living is to see where it all leads to, and that each person must make their own purpose. Enlightened, Amazo relinquished his vendetta against Luthor. After the three grew back, many Green Lanterns arrived to try and destroy Amazo for apparently destroying Oa, however he revealed what had really happened. After restoring Oa back to its original place, he departed with Dr. Fate, who proposed to help him in his search for meaning.

Amazo stayed with Dr. Fate until Solomon Grundy was resurrected as a mindless berserker. The android tried to stop him by teleporting him into the sun, but the zombie ― filled with chaos magic ― absorbed and repelled Amazo's cosmic blast. So as to prevent Grundy from becoming stronger, Amazo teleported himself several light-years away until he could figure out how to solve the problem at hand. Amazo has not been heard or seen since then.

Indirect inspiration

During the Cadmus Crisis, Luthor created a second Amazo android (with his own face), intending to transfer his mind into it, having a photographic memory he was able to memorize the plans when the Atom showed them, but was stopped when Amanda Waller destroyed it with a nano-disassembler beam based from Luthor's designs to take down the original android.

Powers and abilities

Originally, Amazo had the ability to copy one's powers, natural abilities, equipment, and DNA signature simply by looking at them.

Amazo first used his ability to replicate superhuman attributes and weaponry from six of the seven founding members of the Justice League. Subsequently, during Amazo's travels through the universe, he evolved to a nigh-omnipotent state that could easily outmatch the whole expanded League. In his enhanced state, he has flight, super strength, invulnerability, vast energy manipulation, psionic powers like telepathy and telekinesis, super-hearing, can teleport himself across unknown distances, shrink into a subatomic universe, shunt entire planets to other dimensions and just as easily bring them back unharmed with a blink of an eye. Amazo could effortlessly break through a force field created from the combined power of a few dozen Green Lanterns.

All of these enhancements have made Amazo quite possibly the single most powerful being ever known in the DCAU.

Background information

Amazo debuted in The Brave and the Bold Vol. 1 #30 (June 1960), and was created by Gardner Fox and Mike Sekowsky. He was a power-adapting android, created by the mad scientist Professor Ivo, who was trying to find a way to cheat death. Ivo created absorption cells that could imitate the genetic traits of others, incorporated them into an android, and pitted him against the Justice League of America. The concept of the android's power was retconned several times throughout its course. Originally he was programmed with specific powers, depending on the heroes he was up against. Only until recently did he gain the ability to imitate his opponents' powers by proximity. Amazo clashed with various superheroes on numerous times, only to be destroyed and rebuilt again.

In the Justice League episode "Tabula Rasa", the League discovered Ivo's blueprints for the android, labeled "A.M.A.Z.O.". It was never revealed what these letters stood for in the DCAU version of the character. The name "Amazo" was not an acronym in the comics. Only once is the name "A.M.A.Z.O." actually spoken

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You do realize Amazo has no answer to magic(Thor). Also, what's stopping Thor from just freezing time?

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@petey_is_spidey: this guy defeated several green lanterns and the league and thor and surfer are supposed to stop him? amazo has no weaknesses. he will adapt surfer's powers when they encounter each other. this isn't a fair fight. amazo has the power of all the justice league and will have surfer's powers when they fight.

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Another battle that will probably get locked.

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@petey_is_spidey: this guy defeated several green lanterns and the league and thor and surfer are supposed to stop him? amazo has no weaknesses. he will adapt surfer's powers when they encounter each other. this isn't a fair fight. amazo has the power of all the justice league and will have surfer's powers when they fight.

Let's say he does somehow adapt to Silver Surfer's powers, he has nothing to counter attack Thor, who is a magic user. He was afraid to fight Solomon Grundy because he even acknowledge he would serve as no use, and would just cause more destruction. Thor has a wide array of powers, such as time freezing which will come in at a huge advantage. With OF, he has the power of Odin, so by saying Thor losses, you basically say that JLU Amazo > Odin.

Also, we Amazo only copied the powers of those he has encountered. So no, he does not have every single JLA power. Also, what's stopping SS from Speed blitzing? We don't know how fast the JL members are(cause remember, we're using them, not the comic versions). Most of them have virtually no speed feats. Wally West fastest feat was to circle the globe in a few seconds when fighting Braniac Lex. Silver Surfer can go FTL. No way Amazo is winning.

JLU amazo = definition of overrated.

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@petey_is_spidey: this guy defeated several green lanterns and the league and thor and surfer are supposed to stop him? amazo has no weaknesses. he will adapt surfer's powers when they encounter each other. this isn't a fair fight. amazo has the power of all the justice league and will have surfer's powers when they fight.

Let's say he does somehow adapt to Silver Surfer's powers, he has nothing to counter attack Thor, who is a magic user. He was afraid to fight Solomon Grundy because he even acknowledge he would serve as no use, and would just cause more destruction. Thor has a wide array of powers, such as time freezing which will come in at a huge advantage. With OF, he has the power of Odin, so by saying Thor losses, you basically say that JLU Amazo > Odin.

Also, we Amazo only copied the powers of those he has encountered. So no, he does not have every single JLA power. Also, what's stopping SS from Speed blitzing? We don't know how fast the JL members are(cause remember, we're using them, not the comic versions). Most of them have virtually no speed feats. Wally West fastest feat was to circle the globe in a few seconds when fighting Braniac Lex. Silver Surfer can go FTL. No way Amazo is winning.

JLU amazo = definition of overrated.

how is ss going to speedblitz amazo when he has the flash and supes powers? amazo can just beat amazo thor to death or kill him with surfer's powers, green lantern's powers, or supes powers. he has more powers than that, too. he went around the galaxy. there is a reason that no one came back to this thread. it isn't fair.

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#18  Edited By Hubris_exe

The JLU counterparts of heroes are so much worse that New 52 Superman is possibly faster than JLU Wally freaking West. Amazo gits rekt.

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So Amazo beat an extremely powered down JL universe, and that somehow gives him a win over comic Thor and Silver Surfer? Nope.

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Amazo.

This is spite.

Lock this shieeeee!

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@christianrapper said:

@petey_is_spidey: this guy defeated several green lanterns and the league and thor and surfer are supposed to stop him? amazo has no weaknesses. he will adapt surfer's powers when they encounter each other. this isn't a fair fight. amazo has the power of all the justice league and will have surfer's powers when they fight.

Let's say he does somehow adapt to Silver Surfer's powers, he has nothing to counter attack Thor, who is a magic user. He was afraid to fight Solomon Grundy because he even acknowledge he would serve as no use, and would just cause more destruction. Thor has a wide array of powers, such as time freezing which will come in at a huge advantage. With OF, he has the power of Odin, so by saying Thor losses, you basically say that JLU Amazo > Odin.

Also, we Amazo only copied the powers of those he has encountered. So no, he does not have every single JLA power. Also, what's stopping SS from Speed blitzing? We don't know how fast the JL members are(cause remember, we're using them, not the comic versions). Most of them have virtually no speed feats. Wally West fastest feat was to circle the globe in a few seconds when fighting Braniac Lex. Silver Surfer can go FTL. No way Amazo is winning.

JLU amazo = definition of overrated.

Wasn't Amazo considered a God (by that I mean, he had God-like ability) by the time he arrived back on Earth, anyway?

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I put my money on Amazo. Even though some people are saying he can't fight Magic, I think there was a distinction.

I have to believe that living with Doctor Fate allowed Amazo to further learn how to combat magic. Chaos Magic was not his forte, but I don't know if OF Thor is using Chaos Magic, so he may be able to fight him.

But that's just my two cents. I doubt it's a stomp, but I think Amazo takes this one.

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@petey_is_spidey said:

@christianrapper said:

@petey_is_spidey: this guy defeated several green lanterns and the league and thor and surfer are supposed to stop him? amazo has no weaknesses. he will adapt surfer's powers when they encounter each other. this isn't a fair fight. amazo has the power of all the justice league and will have surfer's powers when they fight.

Let's say he does somehow adapt to Silver Surfer's powers, he has nothing to counter attack Thor, who is a magic user. He was afraid to fight Solomon Grundy because he even acknowledge he would serve as no use, and would just cause more destruction. Thor has a wide array of powers, such as time freezing which will come in at a huge advantage. With OF, he has the power of Odin, so by saying Thor losses, you basically say that JLU Amazo > Odin.

Also, we Amazo only copied the powers of those he has encountered. So no, he does not have every single JLA power. Also, what's stopping SS from Speed blitzing? We don't know how fast the JL members are(cause remember, we're using them, not the comic versions). Most of them have virtually no speed feats. Wally West fastest feat was to circle the globe in a few seconds when fighting Braniac Lex. Silver Surfer can go FTL. No way Amazo is winning.

JLU amazo = definition of overrated.

how is ss going to speedblitz amazo when he has the flash and supes powers? amazo can just beat amazo thor to death or kill him with surfer's powers, green lantern's powers, or supes powers. he has more powers than that, too. he went around the galaxy. there is a reason that no one came back to this thread. it isn't fair.

Do you not realize how depowered the JL counterparts are compared to the comics? Wally West took a couple of seconds to circle the Earth at his fastest. SS can travel lightyears in seconds. JLU Wally West does not equal comic Wally West. SS can speedblitz him before he has time to react, due to the fact that no one, and I mean NO ONE on that show has posted speed anything near SS(I'm going off of feats here). Thor could probably blitz him.

Not only that but you seem to keep ignoring the fact that Thor has magic, which is not JLU Amazo's strong spot. The JLU versions are so depowered compared to their comic counterparts. Regular Thor(not OF), was able to lift the Midgard serpent, a snake as big as the Earth. That's not counting his upgrade boost from the OF. Show me some feats that suggest that Amazo(or anyone on that show for that matter) has the speed, or strength to combat either of these two, instead of saying that he beat a depowered version of the JL(most of them were no names anyways with little to no feats).

Either one solos.

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So Amazo beat an extremely powered down JL universe, and that somehow gives him a win over comic Thor and Silver Surfer? Nope.

My thought's exactly.

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So Amazo beat an extremely powered down JL universe, and that somehow gives him a win over comic Thor and Silver Surfer? Nope.

My thought's exactly.

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Duo stomps. Amazo has virtually no speed(reaction) feats, which will be exploited by Silver Surfer. Also, we don't know how well his durability is. Also, if I recall Amazo has no attack against magical beings(seeing as he served no purpose vs Grundy), and guess who has magic? Thor!

People really overpowered that Amazo. I mean who's to blame him, the JLU show op'ed everyone(and UP'ed everyone also).

Amazo was the only one I remember being stronger than their comic book counterpart in that show. Every else seemed considerably weaker.

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@christianrapper: Honestly i liked the justice league amazo granted he wasn't as brutal or cruel as his other versions are and he wasn't on the good guy's side( or league ). But in that show i think it gave him a little bit of character a person whom just wants to know rather than seek and destroy. I mean i guess that was the point of amazo, but i'd prefer the one searching for knowledge XD.

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@christianrapper: Honestly i liked the justice league amazo granted he wasn't as brutal or cruel as his other versions are and he wasn't on the good guy's side( or league ). But in that show i think it gave him a little bit of character a person whom just wants to know rather than seek and destroy. I mean i guess that was the point of amazo, but i'd prefer the one searching for knowledge XD.

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Duo stomps. Amazo has virtually no speed(reaction) feats, which will be exploited by Silver Surfer. Also, we don't know how well his durability is. Also, if I recall Amazo has no attack against magical beings(seeing as he served no purpose vs Grundy), and guess who has magic? Thor!

People really overpowered that Amazo. I mean who's to blame him, the JLU show op'ed everyone(and UP'ed everyone also).

Amazo was the only one I remember being stronger than their comic book counterpart in that show. Every else seemed considerably weaker.

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JLU Amazo

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Amazo killed everyone on Earth and these two are left to defend

Rules

Morals off/bloodlusted

Win by any means

Amazo from the JLU show

Comic versions of Thor(OF) and Silver Surfer

OF Thor solos. What on earth is Amazo going to do to OF Thor? You all do realize classic Thor has feats for fighting Atum on a star right? OF Thor has taken a nuke at point blank range. I think it might've tickled him. He has also contained a nuke and dispersed it's energies into a vortex.

He also decapitated The Destroyer....occupied by Desak....with one blow.

Here's how it goes down:

Amazo presumably using Superman and Wally's speed, strikes the first blow.

Thor then says: "No probs. I command time to stop!"

Amazo now appears to OF Thor like he is moving at normal speeds.

Then he pretty much has his way with him. Anti-force. God blast anyone? Let's see Amazo resist that.

This, folks, is what we call a curb stomp.

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#33  Edited By taylan93

Amazo wins.

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Spite. Either OF Thor or SS solos.

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@ddecourt said:

Spite. Either OF Thor or SS solos.

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@ddecourt said:

Spite. Either OF Thor or SS solos.