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Andrew Garfield spidey vs Arrow and Deathstroke from arrow and Captain America from MCU

Cap and deathstroke both have full automatic assault rifles

Fight takes place on rooftops of NYC

morals on

win by K.O. or death

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Who wins?

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#2  Edited By Fallschirmjager

Peter pretty easily.

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#4  Edited By Fallschirmjager

He's better then them in every category. Movie Cap could beat them both at the same time (with difficulty mind you, but he still would)

Deathstroke had potential, but that potential never blossomed from a combat perspective. Arrow is peak human (as far as comic standards go) at most and that is fairly debatable.

Spider-Man is leagues above them. He has the best combat speed in movies to date, including Quicksilver. His electricity speed feat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone elses by miles.

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Still Peter

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@clark_el said:

@fallschirmjager: All together they can pull out a win i think they can win

How are they going to hurt him? Or even hit him? He's too fast.

And he was tanking buttloads of Electro's blasts. Electro was blowing up building sized towers. They don't have that kind of fire power.

You could potentially make a case for Cap's shield cutting him, but Cap can't throw it nearly fast enough to hit him. And the second he does throw it, Peter is webbing it up the side of a skyscrapper.

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@clark_el said:

@fallschirmjager: All together they can pull out a win i think they can win

How are they going to hurt him? Or even hit him? He's too fast.

And he was tanking buttloads of Electro's blasts. Electro was blowing up building sized towers. They don't have that kind of fire power.

You could potentially make a case for Cap's shield cutting him, but Cap can't throw it nearly fast enough to hit him. And the second he does throw it, Peter is webbing it up the side of a skyscrapper.

A regular bullet pierced Spider-Man's body, resistance to electrical attack doesn't necessary mean that he have the same durability toward projectile weapons, something which Oliver and Slade has.

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@angryhulks said:

@fallschirmjager said:

@clark_el said:

@fallschirmjager: All together they can pull out a win i think they can win

How are they going to hurt him? Or even hit him? He's too fast.

And he was tanking buttloads of Electro's blasts. Electro was blowing up building sized towers. They don't have that kind of fire power.

You could potentially make a case for Cap's shield cutting him, but Cap can't throw it nearly fast enough to hit him. And the second he does throw it, Peter is webbing it up the side of a skyscrapper.

A regular bullet pierced Spider-Man's body, resistance to electrical attack doesn't necessary mean that he have the same durability toward projectile weapons, something which Oliver and Slade has.

You're kidding yourself if you think a gunshot or an arrow is going to tag Spider-Man without plot. He has too many speed feats at and above those speeds to make a legitmate argument that that specific bullet was anything but a device used to increased tension.

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@angryhulks said:

@fallschirmjager said:

@clark_el said:

@fallschirmjager: All together they can pull out a win i think they can win

How are they going to hurt him? Or even hit him? He's too fast.

And he was tanking buttloads of Electro's blasts. Electro was blowing up building sized towers. They don't have that kind of fire power.

You could potentially make a case for Cap's shield cutting him, but Cap can't throw it nearly fast enough to hit him. And the second he does throw it, Peter is webbing it up the side of a skyscrapper.

A regular bullet pierced Spider-Man's body, resistance to electrical attack doesn't necessary mean that he have the same durability toward projectile weapons, something which Oliver and Slade has.

You're kidding yourself if you think a gunshot or an arrow is going to tag Spider-Man without plot. He has too many speed feats at and above those speeds to make a legitmate argument that that specific bullet was anything but a device used to increased tension.

While Spider-Man not being able to dodge bullet is a plot device, but Peter not being bulletproof is something that's always true.

We're talking about 2 men with superhuman accuracy/marksmanship, they're not average thugs Peter fought everyday.

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@angryhulks: I also said you can make a case for Cap's shield cutting him - based on its showing vs the jet.

But Cap also doesn't have the velocity to throw it fast enough.

Arrow and Deathstroke have no marksmenship feats on that level of speed. Arrow's best is shooting a grenade out of the sky fired from a M203 grenade detachment. They go like 300 feet per second, which isn't even mach 1.

Deathstroke has no marksmenship feats to speak of, that I can recall.

And again. The scene in the middle of Town's Square is far and above bullet timing. Its not even close. Electricity traveling through a medium travels near light speed. Peter did a flip, caught a car in his webs and webbed civilians hands so they wouldn't touch the railing before the electricity traveled (guessing her) a hundred yards at most.

That is absolutely insane speed.

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@angryhulks: Add to that If a cop with a semi-auto pistol tagged him, i'm pretty sure 3 expert combatants with (like you said) dead on accuracy have bows and full auto guns, Spidey would have to do some pretty good dodging to stay alive.

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@fallschirmjager: Yeah but there are three of them all with at least descent (two expert) level accuracy I think they could be able to tag him.

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#18  Edited By rogueshadow  Moderator

Spider-man.

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@clark_el said:

@angryhulks: Add to that If a cop with a semi-auto pistol tagged him, i'm pretty sure 3 expert combatants with (like you said) dead on accuracy have bows and full auto guns, Spidey would have to do some pretty good dodging to stay alive.

If you watched the second movie, you would have seen Peter dodge automatic fire, quite gracefully I might add. He got hit with a bullet in the first movie because the writers wanted him to get hit. And Oliver has missed plenty of arrows against people much slower than Peter. Peter isn't getting tagged here.

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@stormdriven: From a fat Russian thug who didn't know what he was doing

I know he becomes the rhino later.

I'm saying with three people though they could maybe tag him.

Also I'm assuming it's known that cap's shield can cut Spidey's webbing I just want to put that out now in case someone brings it up.

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@clark_el: It was still automatic fire from close range. You would need skill to miss at that range. You wouldn't even need skill to spray and pray. Peter was just too fast for him.

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@stormdriven: He point blanked the car thief with a handgun while making jokes in movie 1 as well.

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@stormdriven: While that's a valid point...again three expert shooters?

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He one shots Arrow. Cap and DS will be tough to beat but with his speed he takes it.

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@stormdriven: He point blanked the car thief with a handgun while making jokes in movie 1 as well.

It was actually the motorcycle cop, but yeah, it's pretty obvious that plot was the reason he got hit.

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@clark_el: I know, I was just saying he got hit at the end of the movie for the sake of plot.

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@stormdriven: yeah and whether it's PIS or not he still got hit though...lol maybe the cop had dead aim

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If the team works together they could take a round or two but that is unlikely.

Slade will be the toughest to put down.

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team could win if they work together if not spiderman wrecks

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@clark_el said:

So are you giving Peter the majority?

Huge majority. I'd give the team 1 win on the off chance they get their s**t together.

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@clark_el: right back at ya kryptonians stick together.

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I'll give it to the team since they all have about equal strength feats. If Spiderman did something impressive like hit Rhino so hard he flew through buildings, I would've said he wins

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I'll give it to the team since they all have about equal strength feats. If Spiderman did something impressive like hit Rhino so hard he flew through buildings, I would've said he wins

They do not have equal strength feats. Spider-Man casually caught a flying car in ASM2 and was holding an SUV in 1 hand in ASM1.

Cap, DS and Arrow don't have anything close to that in strength.

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Spider-man wins with ease.

Stopped a cop car hurling at him and people, while stopping to civilians from touching electrified handrails, whose hands were MAYBE a foot away from touching. Before Cap and DS even got their guns ready he could snatch them away.

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I don't remember him lifting a car. It's not even an uncommon feat for low level super soldiers. It's as common as seeing guys sewer lids in movies