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#1 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio

All battles will take place here

In the magical land that time forgot of Skataris. The dimensional gateways to this world are sealed and all those with the power of dimensional travel will be unable to breach this barrier. their travel will be confined within the time lost land.

Combatants will have four weeks of prep but that prep will be in Skataris with the resources available there only. Combatants will begin at the tops of the two mountain ranges on opposite sides of Skataris.

RULES

These characters are amalgams of the choices made. They are a completely new character. each character will get

  • from the Body - physical aspects only. Strength, speed, durability, endurance, damage soak and healing
  • From the mind the learned things and character of the mind. They will have none of the powers of these characters unless those powers are the direct result of learned behavior.
  • from the powerset - the powers. This will NOT include anything physical in nature.
  • from the item whatever the item can bring when wielded by the mind and body chosen. If an item requires a particular physicality or character trait to perform certain tasks that is not a part of this build than they will be denied that aspect of the item.
  • POST LIMIT - in light of the many tourneys lately becoming war and peace all battles will be restricted to 7 battle posts plus one summation post where you can make closing arguments but NOT add any new information not offered before hand. Debaters can uses the 7 however they see fit to make their case. This should hopefully make it an easier read and more likely to actually get some votes
  • When down to voting all votes MUST be on the debate offered not on who you think should have won.
  • Debate will be open for a maximum of 5 days before closed by me once a thread starts
  • Characters who have the power of power duplications/copy, can only copy the powers as they fit within draft choices and can only unlock more potential of their own character build has that capability.

These amalgams may have the ability to use these powers or physicals to greater levels than the chosen drafts IF they can make a reasonable and believable explanation as to why they have unlocked such ability because of how they have built the character. For example a character chosen in a body slot may be able to have it's powers used if either the mind, power or the item can reasonably be used to access them. Similarly with the powers etc.

@betatesthighlander1

VS

@dccomicsrule2011

Body: Durge (Star Wars EU)

Mind: Exar Kun (Star Wars EU)

Power set: Anakin Skywalker (Star Wars EU)

Item: Lightsaber

#7 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (7011 posts) - - Show Bio

This is going to be good :P

#17 Edited by beatboks1 (7077 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011: @betatesthighlander1:

LOL, should I just call for votes now?? betatesthighlander has 8 posts and dccomicsrul2011 has 6.

Guy's take care, there is a post limit on this and you're going to loose out as we get into this if you waste them.

Debate starts NOW, don't waste anymore posts.

#18 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (23792 posts) - - Show Bio

@beatboks1: lol I completely forgot about the post limit,sorry. D=

@betatesthighlander1 Delete all of the post please. ^_^

Now let's get started

The Body

For the body I have Durge. Durge is a Gen'Dai a being who is nigh immortal because they can,if given enough time, regenerate from anything:

Casually takes a blaster to the face

Besides regeneration there are also quite durable

Durge has also survived molten Lava:

Survived after being hit with multiple shards of glass thrown at him by Anakin:

Durge does not even have a central nerve system:

Taken shots from a lightsaber:

lol at his pimp hand

Durge is also super fast as well he has been able to dodge lightsaber swings from Anakin Skywalker

Apparently even Jedi are move in slowmotion to him:

He is even fast to Jedi^^

He has casually thrown around Clone troopers:

Other Durge feats here:

Powerset

Anakin Skywalker the Chosen One. I will be sporting all of Anakins abilities thanks to Exar Kun's mind (who is also a very powerful Force sensitive)

Force Speed:

Anakin is exceptionally fast he has been able to deflect blast from Star fighters:

Casually reflect blaster bolts^^

Has moved so fast he seemed to be everywhere at once and seen the world as if it was at a standing still:

"Jedi don't need luck," Anakin said, just as the attack droids swarmed into the hangar.

Blaster fire erupted from the droids, aimed at Anakin but scattered enough so that he feared for Marit and the others. The squad dropped, scrambling for their blasters. Anakin saw at once his problems. Gillam and Rolai had found blasters and were trying to aim at him as he moved.

Fire from the droids was heavy. Marit had ducked behind a starfighter. He did not think he could count on help from her. She seemed dazed. He saw the smile of triumph on Gillam's face as he retrieved and aimed his blaster, and Anakin's anger returned. He reached out to the Force. He remembered the lessons he had learned from Soara Antana, the great Jedi Master.

The Force comes from stillness,

she had said.

Find your still center, even in the midst of battle.

He saw time unspool before him like a ribbon. He saw it freeze like ice on a river. He saw that he had infinite time to do everything he needed.

With an outstretched hand he knocked the blaster from Gillam's grasp and sent it flying across the full space of the hangar. It hit the wall so hard it shattered. Gillam's smile disappeared. At the same time he was moving, diverting the droids' blaster fire from where Tulah and Hurana had taken cover, pushing Ze behind a durasteel container, and knocking out one attack droid with a thrust to its control panel.

Suddenly the laser cannons from the starfighter on his right began to fire. Gillam had slipped inside the cockpit. Anakin did not lose his sense of frozen time. He was the master of time. He did not worry about the laser cannons any more than he'd worried about the attack droids. It all seemed so easy. He seemed to see the fire before it came, and he knew how to move to avoid it. His movements were like shimmersilk, so fluid it was as though he did not have muscles and bones, only will.

Now his Master was here. He could feel that, too. But he did not need him. He spun in midair, taking out two battle droids while he leaped through the laser cannonfire straight at the cockpit of the starfighter. With one backward slash he took out the final droid. He had a flash of Gillam's shocked face as he cut through the windscreen with one slice. With one hand, he threw Gillam out of the pilot's seat and then dropped into it. He turned off the engines and disabled the laser cannons.

Siri and Ferus stood, lightsabers drawn, guarding Rolai, Marit, Hurana, Tulah, and Ze. Obi-Wan had captured Rana Halion. Across the space, he looked at his Master. He waited for Obi-Wan to acknowledge him. The mission was over. He had been successful. He had found Gillam and thwarted an invasion. He waited, standing in the cockpit, looking down. He could feel the flush of triumph on his cheeks. Siri glanced at him, as did Ferus. He could see the astonishment on their faces. But his Master never looked up.

Never had Obi-Wan seen such a display of the Force from a Padawan. From the great Jedi Masters, yes. From Qui-Gon, near the end of his life. But from someone so young? Anakin's power astonished him. He had glimpsed it before, but now he had seen it unfurl, and it staggered him.

He had not had a chance to move, to help. Anakin had been a blur. He had seemed to be everywhere at once. He had destroyed ten attack droids, disarmed his aggressors, and disabled two laser cannons without hesitation, with even a slight smile on his face.

--Taken from Jedi Quest: The School of Fear

Has blocked/Dodged/reflected blaster bolts from a entire army of droids:

He has deflected blaster bolts repeatedly until they dispersed

Exchanges flashed. Leaps were sideslipped or met with flying kicks; ankle sweeps skipped over and punches parried. The door of the control center fell in pieces, and then they were inside among the bodies. Consoles exploded in fountains of white-hot sparks as they ripped free of their moorings and hurtled through the air. Dead hands spasmed on triggers and blaster bolts sizzled through impossibly intricate lattices of ricochet.

Obi-Wan barely caught some and flipped them at Anakin: a desperation move. Anything to distract him; anything to slow him down. Easily, contemptuously, Anakin sent them back, and the bolts flared between their blades until their galvening faded and the particles of the packeted beams dispersed into radioactive fog.

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

Has processed information in a microsecond:

What happened next would have consequences yet undreamed of; it was as if Anakin Skywalker were having an epiphany. In a microsecond he saw what was coming and knew where it would lead him, but he was powerless to interfere. He felt like a headstrong and disobedient child being forced to sit still and watch a puppet show. A battle droid stepped into the room from the far side and leveled its blaster at Anakin. Reija Momen stepped in front of him just as the droid fired. The bolt, fired at low power, hit her squarely in the chest and slammed her back into Anakin.

--Taken from Jedi Trial

He has outran blaster bolts from and entire army of droids:

Anakin moved with the swiftness and brilliance of a burning sun. Droids rushed against him, their weapons firing indiscriminately. His lightsaber flashing in a blinding symphony of light and destruction, he parried the bolts effortlessly, sending some ripping through the walls and roof, others back into the very droids that had fired them. He wasn't defending now, he was attacking, attacking with such fury and destruction that nothing could stop him. And he knew where he was going—he was headed for the enemy command post.

The droids, unable to give way, unable to surrender even if Anakin would have spared them, flew apart like cheap dolls as the lightsaber cut through them in a broad swath of destruction. The clone troopers following the Jedi had difficulty finding targets, and stumbled over the debris he left in his passage through the complex. They merely followed in his wake, covering his back. Before long he was outside the building and heading with unerring accuracy toward Pors Tonith's bunker. It seemed as if Tonith's entire army was firing at Anakin, but as he ran at full speed over the uneven ground that separated the communications facility from Tonith's command bunker, not a single bolt touched him. The troopers following\ hugged the ground and crawled painfully onward while their commander stood erect and ran unscathed through the burning trajectories of death.

--Taken from Jedi Trial

He has reacted in a milleseconds:

Reacted to sub-Light ships that were flying a "respectable fraction of light speed" :

Obi-Wan was already making that exact move as Anakin spoke. But they were inverted to each other: breaking right shot him one way while Anakin whipped the other. The tri-fighters' cannons ripped space between them, tracking faster than their starfighters could slip. His onboard threat display chimed a warning: two of the droids had remote sensor locks on him. The others must have lit up his partner. "Anakin! Slip-jaws!"

"My thought exactly."

They blew past the tri-fighters, looping in evasive spirals. The droid ships wrenched themselves into pursuit maneuvers that would have killed any living pilot. The slip-jaws maneuver was named for the scissorlike mandibles of the Kashyyyk slash-spider. Droids closing rapidly on their tails, cannonfire stitching space on all sides, the two Jedi pulled their ships through perfectly mirrored rolls that sent them streaking head-on for each other from opposite ends of a vast Republic cruiser. For merely human pilots, this would be suicide. By the time you can see your partner's starfighter streaking toward you at a respectable fraction of lightspeed, it's already too late for your merely human reflexes to react.

But these particular pilots were far from merely human.

The Force nudged hands on control yokes and the Jedi starfighters twisted and flashed past each other belly-to-belly, close enough to scorch each other's paint.

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

He has reacted to lighting:

Anakin's speeder shrieked through the rain, dodging forked bolts of lightning that shot up from towers into the clouds, slicing across traffic lanes, screaming past spacescrapers so fast that his shock-wake cracked windows as he passed

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

Telekinesis

Anakin has been able to re-direct a missiles

Has shown saber throw^^

Smashed a droid with a giant builder:

Pushed an escape pod into a star^^

Move and entire army of droids with TK and also displays saber thorw^^

Moved and entire moved droid landing platforms/war machines. He also shows great acrobatic and speed feats while jumping from missile to missiles^^

Sensing:

Here Anakin shows the ability to fight while in the dark and blind folded:

Here he shows excellent hearing ability:

Here he feels a beast thoughts:

Here he senses that Obi-Wan is alive and crashed on a planet:

The Mind

I will have no problem accessing Anakin's power Exar Kun is also a Force sensitive and is one of the most powerful and influential Sith Lords of all time:

With Prep Kun can use Sith Alchemy to create monsters:

An extremely powerful figure now, Kun dabbled in dark side alchemy, creating freakish two-headed avians and hulking terentateks that thirsted after Force-rich blood. He invented a glowing golden sphere that trapped the children of the Massassi and allowed him to feed off their energies.

--Taken from the New Essential Chronology

Exar also is skilled at Sith Sorcery here he used a spell that allows him to Exar uses a spell to mesmerize observers and force them into inaction and then proceeds to influence the mind of the Senate president into repeating whatever he says:

During Ulic's sentencing, the doors crashed open and Exar Kun strode in, flanked by bestial Massassi bodyguards. Before the whole assembly, the new Dark Lord of the Sith used his powers to hypnotize the observers and manipulate the president of the senate.

--Taken from the New Essential Chronology

#19 Edited by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio

@beatboks1: lol I completely forgot about the post limit,sorry. D=

@betatesthighlander1 Delete all of the post please. ^_^

what? yeah, okay

The Body

For the body I have Durge. Durge is a Gen'Dai a being who is nigh immortal because they can,if given enough time, can regenerate from anything:

Casually takes a blaster to the face

Besides regeneration there are also quite durable

Durge has also survived molten Lava:

Survived after being hit with multiple shards of glass thrown at him by Anakin:

Durge does not even have a central nerve system:

Taken shots from a lightsaber:

lol at his pimp hand

Durge is also super fast as well he has been able to dodge lightsaber swings from Anakin Skywalker

Apparently even Jedi are move in slowmotion to him:

He is even fast to Jedi^^

He has casually thrown around Clone troopers:

Other Durge feats here:

okay, first of all I should point out that the lava thing burnt off both of his hands

also, Aku had crazy regeneration abilities as well, but the sword hurt him beyond repair

and since your amalgam is possessed by a demonic spirit, it should have the same effect ^

as for speed, Overtkill was able to match Classic Spawn in that area

and if you think Spawn is a slouch, behold

1) Spawn Chains reacts to 4 guys with Sub Machine Guns with no problems.

2) Spawns Cape moves faster than this Laser Beam! Near Light Speed!

3) Spawn moves so fast that he gathers over 11 Shotguns from the very Cops there and Cop Cars faster than Cops can see!

4) Spawn Suit moves so fast that it causes the very air to set fire from friction! Hyper Sonic+

5) Spawn himself moves faster than the human eye can see!

Powerset

Anakin Skywalker the Chosen One. I will be sporting all of Anakins abilities thanks to Exar Kun's mind (who is also a very powerful Force sensitive)

Speed:

Anakin is exceptionally fast he has been able to deflect blast from Star fighters:

Casually reflect blaster bolts^^

Has moved so fast he seemed to be everywhere at once and seen the world as if it was at a stand still:

"Jedi don't need luck," Anakin said, just as the attack droids swarmed into the hangar.

Blaster fire erupted from the droids, aimed at Anakin but scattered enough so that he feared for Marit and the others. The squad dropped, scrambling for their blasters. Anakin saw at once his problems. Gillam and Rolai had found blasters and were trying to aim at him as he moved.

Fire from the droids was heavy. Marit had ducked behind a starfighter. He did not think he could count on help from her. She seemed dazed. He saw the smile of triumph on Gillam's face as he retrieved and aimed his blaster, and Anakin's anger returned. He reached out to the Force. He remembered the lessons he had learned from Soara Antana, the great Jedi Master.

The Force comes from stillness,

she had said.

Find your still center, even in the midst of battle.

He saw time unspool before him like a ribbon. He saw it freeze like ice on a river. He saw that he had infinite time to do everything he needed.

With an outstretched hand he knocked the blaster from Gillam's grasp and sent it flying across the full space of the hangar. It hit the wall so hard it shattered. Gillam's smile disappeared. At the same time he was moving, diverting the droids' blaster fire from where Tulah and Hurana had taken cover, pushing Ze behind a durasteel container, and knocking out one attack droid with a thrust to its control panel.

Suddenly the laser cannons from the starfighter on his right began to fire. Gillam had slipped inside the cockpit. Anakin did not lose his sense of frozen time. He was the master of time. He did not worry about the laser cannons any more than he'd worried about the attack droids. It all seemed so easy. He seemed to see the fire before it came, and he knew how to move to avoid it. His movements were like shimmersilk, so fluid it was as though he did not have muscles and bones, only will.

Now his Master was here. He could feel that, too. But he did not need him. He spun in midair, taking out two battle droids while he leaped through the laser cannonfire straight at the cockpit of the starfighter. With one backward slash he took out the final droid. He had a flash of Gillam's shocked face as he cut through the windscreen with one slice. With one hand, he threw Gillam out of the pilot's seat and then dropped into it. He turned off the engines and disabled the laser cannons.

Siri and Ferus stood, lightsabers drawn, guarding Rolai, Marit, Hurana, Tulah, and Ze. Obi-Wan had captured Rana Halion. Across the space, he looked at his Master. He waited for Obi-Wan to acknowledge him. The mission was over. He had been successful. He had found Gillam and thwarted an invasion. He waited, standing in the cockpit, looking down. He could feel the flush of triumph on his cheeks. Siri glanced at him, as did Ferus. He could see the astonishment on their faces. But his Master never looked up.

Never had Obi-Wan seen such a display of the Force from a Padawan. From the great Jedi Masters, yes. From Qui-Gon, near the end of his life. But from someone so young? Anakin's power astonished him. He had glimpsed it before, but now he had seen it unfurl, and it staggered him.

He had not had a chance to move, to help. Anakin had been a blur. He had seemed to be everywhere at once. He had destroyed ten attack droids, disarmed his aggressors, and disabled two laser cannons without hesitation, with even a slight smile on his face.

--Taken from Jedi Quest: The School of Fear

Has blocked/Dodged/reflected blaster bolts from a entire army of droids:

He has deflected blaster bolts repeatedly until they dispersed

Exchanges flashed. Leaps were sideslipped or met with flying kicks; ankle sweeps skipped over and punches parried. The door of the control center fell in pieces, and then they were inside among the bodies. Consoles exploded in fountains of white-hot sparks as they ripped free of their moorings and hurtled through the air. Dead hands spasmed on triggers and blaster bolts sizzled through impossibly intricate lattices of ricochet.

Obi-Wan barely caught some and flipped them at Anakin: a desperation move. Anything to distract him; anything to slow him down. Easily, contemptuously, Anakin sent them back, and the bolts flared between their blades until their galvening faded and the particles of the packeted beams dispersed into radioactive fog.

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

Has processed information in a microsecond:

What happened next would have consequences yet undreamed of; it was as if Anakin Skywalker were having an epiphany. In a microsecond he saw what was coming and knew where it would lead him, but he was powerless to interfere. He felt like a headstrong and disobedient child being forced to sit still and watch a puppet show. A battle droid stepped into the room from the far side and leveled its blaster at Anakin. Reija Momen stepped in front of him just as the droid fired. The bolt, fired at low power, hit her squarely in the chest and slammed her back into Anakin.

--Taken from Jedi Trial

He has outran blaster bolts from and entire army of droids:

Anakin moved with the swiftness and brilliance of a burning sun. Droids rushed against him, their weapons firing indiscriminately. His lightsaber flashing in a blinding symphony of light and destruction, he parried the bolts effortlessly, sending some ripping through the walls and roof, others back into the very droids that had fired them. He wasn't defending now, he was attacking, attacking with such fury and destruction that nothing could stop him. And he knew where he was going—he was headed for the enemy command post.

The droids, unable to give way, unable to surrender even if Anakin would have spared them, flew apart like cheap dolls as the lightsaber cut through them in a broad swath of destruction. The clone troopers following the Jedi had difficulty finding targets, and stumbled over the debris he left in his passage through the complex. They merely followed in his wake, covering his back. Before long he was outside the building and heading with unerring accuracy toward Pors Tonith's bunker. It seemed as if Tonith's entire army was firing at Anakin, but as he ran at full speed over the uneven ground that separated the communications facility from Tonith's command bunker, not a single bolt touched him. The troopers following\ hugged the ground and crawled painfully onward while their commander stood erect and ran unscathed through the burning trajectories of death.

--Taken from Jedi Trial

He has reacted in a milleseconds:

Reacted to sub-Light ships that were flying a "respectable fraction of light speed" :

Obi-Wan was already making that exact move as Anakin spoke. But they were inverted to each other: breaking right shot him one way while Anakin whipped the other. The tri-fighters' cannons ripped space between them, tracking faster than their starfighters could slip. His onboard threat display chimed a warning: two of the droids had remote sensor locks on him. The others must have lit up his partner. "Anakin! Slip-jaws!"

"My thought exactly."

They blew past the tri-fighters, looping in evasive spirals. The droid ships wrenched themselves into pursuit maneuvers that would have killed any living pilot. The slip-jaws maneuver was named for the scissorlike mandibles of the Kashyyyk slash-spider. Droids closing rapidly on their tails, cannonfire stitching space on all sides, the two Jedi pulled their ships through perfectly mirrored rolls that sent them streaking head-on for each other from opposite ends of a vast Republic cruiser. For merely human pilots, this would be suicide. By the time you can see your partner's starfighter streaking toward you at a respectable fraction of lightspeed, it's already too late for your merely human reflexes to react.

But these particular pilots were far from merely human.

The Force nudged hands on control yokes and the Jedi starfighters twisted and flashed past each other belly-to-belly, close enough to scorch each other's paint.

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

He has reacted to lighting:

Anakin's speeder shrieked through the rain, dodging forked bolts of lightning that shot up from towers into the clouds, slicing across traffic lanes, screaming past spacescrapers so fast that his shock-wake cracked windows as he passed

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

well, the Taskamster is no stranger to reacting to bullets himself

he is a bullet-timer

has speed blitz'd bullet timers

has held his own against the Avengers

can imitate multiple people at once

has stood his ground against Iron Man and Spider Man

all sorts of stuff like that

Telekinesis

Anakin has been able to re-direct a missiles

impressive, but I have the powers of a guy who can turn intangible and back

#20 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (23792 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1: I edited my post to add other things, I made a mistake and click post by accident . Also can you please format this better? It is a pain for me to reply when your not putting what I say in quotes.

okay, first of all I should point out that the lava thing burnt off both of his hands

When was his hands burnt off?

also, Aku had crazy regeneration abilities as well, but the sword hurt him beyond repair

and since your amalgam is possessed by a demonic spirit, it should have the same effect ^

And that was after continues strikes from the sword,if you watched your own video you would see Aku survived and regenerated after he was hit multiple times with the blade. Also I can use the lightsaber to parry the strokes since Kun is an excellent swordsman:

as for speed, Overtkill was able to match Classic Spawn in that area

and if you think Spawn is a slouch, behold

1) Spawn Chains reacts to 4 guys with Sub Machine Guns with no problems.

2) Spawns Cape moves faster than this Laser Beam! Near Light Speed!

3) Spawn moves so fast that he gathers over 11 Shotguns from the very Cops there and Cop Cars faster than Cops can see!

4) Spawn Suit moves so fast that it causes the very air to set fire from friction! Hyper Sonic+

5) Spawn himself moves faster than the human eye can see!

Impressive but honestly those feats are inferior are inferior to Durge's speed he has been able to keep up and slap Obi-wan around and we all know Kenobi>Spawn in speed Obi-Wan has been able to deflect blast fire from an entire army:

An instant later the Force had him hurtling through a storm of blasterfire as every combat droid in the control center opened up on him at once. Letting go of intention, letting go of desire, letting go of life, Obi-Wan fixed his entire attention on a thread of the Force that pulled him toward Grievous: not where Grievous was, but where Grievous would be when Obi-Wan got there...

Leaping girder to girder, slashing cables on which to swing through swarms of ricocheting particle beams, blade flickering so fast it became a deflector shield that splattered blaster bolts in all directions, his presence alone became a weapon: as he spun and whirled through the control center's superstructure, the blasts of particle cannons from power droids destroyed equipment and shattered girders and unleashed a torrent of red-hot debris that crashed to the deck, crushing droids on all sides.

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

Yet......

This is not even counting the speed amp he is getting from the Force (thanks to Anakin's power set) My guy outclasses yours in speed by a sizable margin. Another thing I want to point out. How would you even detect me? We start off on the other side of a mountain, I have stealth on my side seeing as how I can use the Force to detect other foes while you seemingly don't.

he is a bullet-timer

Hmmmm someone who deflected blaster bolts from armies of droids or a bullet timer? I wonder.........

has speed blitz'd bullet timers

Dude did you pluck this off of a respect thread? You have completely ignored the context of the scan; Taskmaster was using double speed, an ability that allows him to move at "double speed" but that is only when he watches video in fast motion. He has no video to watch here so that scan is null and void.

has held his own against the Avengers

It helps when he knew all of there moves and what they were going to do before hand....but he does not have that here. He has no idea who my Amalgam is.

can imitate multiple people at once

Good.

#21 Edited by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1: I edited my post to add other things, I made a mistake and click post by accident . Also can you please format this better? It is a pain for me to reply when your not putting what I say in quotes.

couldn't you just mention that stuff in your next post?

and it would be easier if you downsized some of your pictures

@betatesthighlander1: I edited my post to add other things, I made a mistake and click post by accident . Also can you please format this better? It is a pain for me to reply when your not putting what I say in quotes.

okay, first of all I should point out that the lava thing burnt off both of his hands

When was his hands burnt off?

also, Aku had crazy regeneration abilities as well, but the sword hurt him beyond repair

and since your amalgam is possessed by a demonic spirit, it should have the same effect ^

And that was after continues strikes from the sword,if you watched your own video you would see Aku survived and regenerated after he was hit multiple times with the blade.

yes, but each strike took out a piece of Aku about the size of a man, so only one or two should be required

as for speed, Overtkill was able to match Classic Spawn in that area

and if you think Spawn is a slouch, behold

1) Spawn Chains reacts to 4 guys with Sub Machine Guns with no problems.

2) Spawns Cape moves faster than this Laser Beam! Near Light Speed!

3) Spawn moves so fast that he gathers over 11 Shotguns from the very Cops there and Cop Cars faster than Cops can see!

4) Spawn Suit moves so fast that it causes the very air to set fire from friction! Hyper Sonic+

5) Spawn himself moves faster than the human eye can see!

Impressive but honestly those feats are inferior are inferior to Durge's speed he has been able to keep up and slap Obi-wan around and we all know Kenobi>Spawn in speed Obi-Wan has been able to deflect blast fire from an entire army:

An instant later the Force had him hurtling through a storm of blasterfire as every combat droid in the control center opened up on him at once. Letting go of intention, letting go of desire, letting go of life, Obi-Wan fixed his entire attention on a thread of the Force that pulled him toward Grievous: not where Grievous was, but where Grievous would be when Obi-Wan got there...

Leaping girder to girder, slashing cables on which to swing through swarms of ricocheting particle beams, blade flickering so fast it became a deflector shield that splattered blaster bolts in all directions, his presence alone became a weapon: as he spun and whirled through the control center's superstructure, the blasts of particle cannons from power droids destroyed equipment and shattered girders and unleashed a torrent of red-hot debris that crashed to the deck, crushing droids on all sides.

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

Yet......

Dude, blaster bolts move at like, 40 MPH


This is not even counting the speed amp he is getting from the Force (thanks to Anakin's power set) My guy outclasses yours in speed by a sizable margin. Another thing I want to point out. How would you even detect me? We start off on the other side of a mountain, I have stealth on my side seeing as how I can use the Force to detect other foes while you seemingly don't.

he is a bullet-timer

Hmmmm someone who deflected blaster bolts from armies of droids or a bullet timer? I wonder.........

has speed blitz'd bullet timers

Dude did you pluck this off of a respect thread? You have completely ignored the context of the scan; Taskmaster was using double speed, an ability that allows him to move at "double speed" but that is only when he watches video in fast motion. He has no video to watch here so that scan is null and void.

has held his own against the Avengers

It helps when he knew all of there moves and what they were going to do before hand....but he does not have that here. He has no idea who my Amalgam is.

can imitate multiple people at once

Good.

1. I mean, listening and whatnot

2. Blaster bolts son't move as fast as bullets

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/05/star-wars-blaster-speed/

3. Taskamster has already watched them, that's like saying that Kenobi can't use the force whenever he doesn't have Qui Gon around

4. but he adapts fairly quickly, and has obvious skill

#22 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (23792 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1:

Continued from last post (I clicked post by accident again)

has stood his ground against Iron Man and Spider Man

-______________________________________- Your kidding me right? He was never fighting Peter in that scan the artist was just showing visual effects on him mimicking Spider-Man's power. I mean really dude? I am now convinced you are just posting scans off of a respect thread or you are intentionally trying to trick me because I'm ignorant on the character (which I am, I'm not a Taskmaster expert to say the least) but I'm not easily duped.

impressive, but I have the powers of a guy who can turn intangible and back

Video's are not working for some reason. Not like it matter though, I out class your character by a considerable margin in speed, I can throw him around like a ragdoll with TK, unless I see some telepathic resistance feats from you amalgam I can hypnotize him, or drain his Life Force:

Now I'm a fair person so I'm not even going to try and dupe you here, The only reason Kun was able to draw the Life Force of thousands was because he was in his temple (which amps his power) and had his sith trinkets and such, so normally he can not drain thousands. But he does know drain so he can still drain the Life energy of one being (that's all I need anyway.) Not to mention you still have not explained how you are going to even locate my character, I have provided evidence for why I can sense you but I have seen none that suggest you can even locate me to begin with.

Just for extra credit....

With his mind he reached across the galaxy and detected other users of Sith magic in the Empress Teta system.

--Taken from the New Essential Chronology

Also you have a Cyborg body right? Anakin was seemingly able to use a Force power known as Electronic Manipulation which allows the user to control electronic devices:

couldn't you just mention that stuff in your next post?

It was too late, I was editing my post at the time you replied.

and it would be easier if you downsized some of your pictures

I try to down size the ones I don't post multiple for but the quality is awefull and the scans fly all over the page.

1. I mean, listening and whatnot

What? I have no idea what you are even talking about.

2. Blaster bolts son't move as fast as bullets

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/05/star-wars-blaster-speed/

lol those people have no idea what they are talking about, the visible light you see in the blaster bolts are only tracers. The real damaging properties are invisible and move much faster then the visible light does. There is no evidence that suggest blaster bolts are slower then bullets

3. Taskamster has already watched them, that's like saying that Kenobi can't use the force whenever he doesn't have Qui Gon around

When did Taskmaster watch my amalgam? I was never doubting his ability to mimic the Avengers I was doubting his ability to mimic my amalgam.

4. but he adapts fairly quickly, and has obvious skill

I know but my point is during his encounter with the Avengers he had prior knowledge of them.... but he does not have that here.

#23 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1:

Continued from last post (I clicked post by accident again)

ok

has stood his ground against Iron Man and Spider Man

-______________________________________- Your kidding me right? He was never fighting Peter in that scan the artist was just showing visual effects on him mimicking Spider-Man's power. I mean really dude? I am now convinced you are just posting scans off of a respect thread or you are intentionally trying to trick me because I'm ignorant on the character (which I am, I'm not a Taskmaster expert to say the least) but I'm not easily duped.

oh, sorry, I posted the wrong scan set (and yeah, a lot of these are off of a respect thread, that is where people get feats)

Fights and stuns Spider-man:

sorry about that

impressive, but I have the powers of a guy who can turn intangible and back

Video's are not working for some reason. Not like it matter though, I out class your character by a considerable margin in speed, I can throw him around like a ragdoll with TK, unless I see some telepathic resistance feats from you amalgam I can hypnotize him, or drain his Life Force:

Now I'm a fair person so I'm not even going to try and dupe you here, The only reason Kun was able to draw the Life Force of thousands was because he was in his temple (which amps his power) and had his sith trinkets and such, so normally he can not drain thousands. But he does know drain so he can still drain the Life energy of one being (that's all I need anyway.) Not to mention you still have not explained how you are going to even locate my character, I have provided evidence for why I can sense you but I have seen none that suggest you can even locate me to begin with.

Why would locating you be very difficult? couldn't mine just...look

also, demonic powers in mine

Just for extra credit....

With his mind he reached across the galaxy and detected other users of Sith magic in the Empress Teta system.

--Taken from the New Essential Chronology

Also you have a Cyborg body right? Anakin was seemingly able to use a Force power known as Electronic Manipulation which allows the user to control electronic devices:

He did that once, and it was against Battle Drones. not exactly the pinnacle of conplexity


couldn't you just mention that stuff in your next post?

It was too late, I was editing my post at the time you replied.

Ok then

and it would be easier if you downsized some of your pictures

I try to down size the ones I don't post multiple for but the quality is awefull and the scans fly all over the page.

could you just post them in a side-by-side series, than numbered explanations?

1. I mean, listening and whatnot

What? I have no idea what you are even talking about.

I mean, why would it be difficult for my character to find yours?

2. Blaster bolts son't move as fast as bullets

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/05/star-wars-blaster-speed/

lol those people have no idea what they are talking about, the visible light you see in the blaster bolts are only tracers. The real damaging properties are invisible and move much faster then the visible light does. There is no evidence that suggest blaster bolts are slower then bullets

I have never seen any Jedi reflect anything except the physical light

3. Taskamster has already watched them, that's like saying that Kenobi can't use the force whenever he doesn't have Qui Gon around

When did Taskmaster watch my amalgam? I was never doubting his ability to mimic the Avengers I was doubting his ability to mimic my amalgam.

when did I say that he would mimic your amalgam?

4. but he adapts fairly quickly, and has obvious skill

I know but my point is during his encounter with the Avengers he had prior knowledge of them.... but he does not have that here.

He's taken others with less

#24 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (23792 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1:

yes, but each strike took out a piece of Aku about the size of a man, so only one or two should be required

No it did not at the beginning of the video Aku get slashed with the sword and he heals just fine. Also Aku morphed his body into men because he wanted to it had nothing to do with him getting slashed by the sword as far as I can tell from the video.

h, sorry, I posted the wrong scan set (and yeah, a lot of these are off of a respect thread, that is where people get feats)

Fights and stuns Spider-man:

sorry about that

Not everyone get's there feats from respect threads.....

Why would locating you be very difficult? couldn't mine just...look

also, demonic powers in mine

Because we start on two mountain ranges on opposite sides of Skataris. Meaning we won't even been able to see each other unless your character has super seeing. What does "denomic powers is mine" even mean? I have a hard to understanding what you are saying because you sentence structuring is piss poor.

He did that once, and it was against Battle Drones. not exactly the pinnacle of conplexity

Actually he has shown this on a few other occasions but I don't have the scans or quotes.Yeah it is a battle droids he still has control over electronic devices so there is a chance it could work. Not like it matters though I have plenty of other ways to beat you.

could you just post them in a side-by-side series, than numbered explanations?

Okay I will do that then.

I have never seen any Jedi reflect anything except the physical light

..... -______________- Did you even read what I posted? The visible light you see is only tracer, the real damaging property is much faster then the tracer. How can you see them reflect the damaging plasma when it is invisible? How does that make any sense at all?

Let's end the blaster bolts vs bullets debate once and for all here because honestly I'm sick of hearing it:

Here Mace Windu deflects slugs (bullets)

The compound flooded with smoke and flame, with flashes of blaster bolts and snarls of hypersonic slugs. Mace paced through it all with relentless calm, his only expression a slight frown of concentration, his blades weaving an impenetrable web of lightning. He gave more and more of himself over to the Force, letting it move his hands, his feet, letting it guide him through the battle.

--Taken from Shatterpoint

You may say "DC, what kind of red herring BS are you trying to pull here?" Well now look at this:

"I've seen him block blaster bolts. He can do the same with bullets. You won't have a chance."

--Taken from Shatterpoint

Mace says if Kar can deflect blaster bolts he can reflect bullets. Now tell me if blaster bolts were really much slower (40 MPH) like you say why would Mace say if he can deflect blaster bolts he can deflect bullets? How does that make sense? Why would he say something that in your words move 40 MPH and deflect something moving at hypersonic speeds? That' would be like saying if you can bench 40 pounds you can bench 400 that makes no sense what so ever. You know why he said it?Because obviously blaster bolts are on par in not greater in speed then bullets. They have been compared multiple times throughout EU in speed. So I I think I closed the blaster bolts vs bullets case.

when did I say that he would mimic your amalgam?

No my point is he was able to match the Avengers because he knew every move they would make before they did it. My point is here he know my moves so the advantage would not be there.

I mean this scan made it pretty clear:

When Captain Marvel changed his move Taskmaster was unable to counter it because he had never seen it before. (at kleast that is what I gather from the scan.

You still have yet to say how your amalgam is going to get past my hypnosis yet, or keep up with my speed, or resist having his life drained. Even if he is intangible he is still there thus he has a Life Force

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#25 Edited by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1:

yes, but each strike took out a piece of Aku about the size of a man, so only one or two should be required

No it did not at the beginning of the video Aku get slashed with the sword and he heals just fine. Also Aku morphed his body into men because he wanted to it had nothing to do with him getting slashed by the sword as far as I can tell from the video.

if you pay attention, every slice destroys 2+ feet of Aku surrounding it

h, sorry, I posted the wrong scan set (and yeah, a lot of these are off of a respect thread, that is where people get feats)

Fights and stuns Spider-man:

sorry about that

Not everyone get's there feats from respect threads.....

sorry

Why would locating you be very difficult? couldn't mine just...look

also, demonic powers in mine

Because we start on two mountain ranges on opposite sides of Skataris. Meaning we won't even been able to see each other unless your character has super seeing. What does "denomic powers is mine" even mean? I have a hard to understanding what you are saying because you sentence structuring is piss poor.

sorry

uhmm, I mean, I guess I could just jump and spot

He did that once, and it was against Battle Drones. not exactly the pinnacle of conplexity

Actually he has shown this on a few other occasions but I don't have the scans or quotes.Yeah it is a battle droids he still has control over electronic devices so there is a chance it could work. Not like it matters though I have plenty of other ways to beat you.

I don't remember him ever using it on any other occasion

even against the battle drones, it took a while

I have never seen any Jedi reflect anything except the physical light

..... -______________- Did you even read what I posted? The visible light you see is only tracer, the real damaging property is much faster then the tracer. How can you see them reflect the damaging plasma when it is invisible? How does that make any sense at all?

every time you see them blocking the blasters, they block what you call tracers

The compound flooded with smoke and flame, with flashes of blaster bolts and snarls of hypersonic slugs. Mace paced through it all with relentless calm, his only expression a slight frown of concentration, his blades weaving an impenetrable web of lightning. He gave more and more of himself over to the Force, letting it move his hands, his feet, letting it guide him through the battle.

--Taken from Shatterpoint

You may say "DC, what kind of red herring BS are you trying to pull here?" Well now look at this:

"I've seen him block blaster bolts. He can do the same with bullets. You won't have a chance."

--Taken from Shatterpoint

Mace says if Kar can deflect blaster bolts he can reflect bullets. Now tell me if blaster bolts were really much slower (40 MPH) like you say why would Mace say if he can deflect blaster bolts he can deflect bullets? How does that make sense? Why would he say something that in your words move 40 MPH and deflect something moving at hypersonic speeds? That' would be like saying if you can bench 40 pounds you can bench 400 that makes no sense what so ever. You know why he said it?Because obviously blaster bolts are on par in not greater in speed then bullets. They have been compared multiple times throughout EU in speed. So I I think I closed the blaster bolts vs bullets case.

I have actual proof, while you have only posted a single, vague, character statement

I could just as easily argue that Mace was saying the guy could precog attacks

when did I say that he would mimic your amalgam?

No my point is he was able to match the Avengers because he knew every move they would make before they did it. My point is here he know my moves so the advantage would not be there.

I mean this scan made it pretty clear:

When Captain Marvel changed his move Taskmaster was unable to counter it because he had never seen it before. (at kleast that is what I gather from the scan.

You still have yet to say how your amalgam is going to get past my hypnosis yet, or keep up with my speed, or resist having his life drained. Even if he is intangible he is still there thus he has a Life Force

Post # 4

the scan shows a guy tricking Taskmaster

how does that prove anything?

#26 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (23792 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1:

if you pay attention, every slice destroys 2+ feet of Aku surrounding it

My mistake,when he slashed Aku the second time he recovered with out losing any matter at all. Not like it mattered though my amalgam can parry your strokes with the lightsaber and he is also faster by a large margin.

sorry

uhmm, I mean, I guess I could just jump and spot

Yeah good luck with that.

I don't remember him ever using it on any other occasion

Yeah like you have really read every EU appearances of Anakin Skywalker right.....

even against the battle drones, it took a while

Never said he would do it just saying it's plausible. And even if it did take long he was manipulating two at the same time.

every time you see them blocking the blasters, they block what you call tracers

Dude the block the damaging properties if they don't they would get well........ damaged and if you want proof:

Energy weapons fire invisible energy beams at lightspeed. The visible "bolt" is a glowing pulse that travels along the beam at less than lightspeed. Therefore, targets can explode instants before the "bolt" actually arrives.

--Taken from Attack of the Clones Incredible Cross-Sections: The Definitive Guide to the Craft from Star Wars: Episode II

Again dude your grasping at straws like you always do during these tournaments.

I have actual proof, while you have only posted a single, vague, character statement

No you have nothing you only have the artist showing visual effects of bolts getting reflected, when in reality it canonically stated that the tracers are much slower then the damaging property. Canon>>>>>>>>Your opinion and fan made calculations.

I could just as easily argue that Mace was saying the guy could precog attacks

No you can't he did not even have precognition powers. Even if he did Mace saying someone can deflect something going only 40 MHP (as you say) should not prove he can deflect something going at hypersonic speeds again you grasping at straws and being willing fully ignorant. Jedi has blocked blaster bolts just as easily as Blaster bolts and there is nothing to suggest they are slower the actual bullets.

the scan shows a guy tricking Taskmaster

how does that prove anything?

The scan from the Avengers fight, my point was he was able to fight against them because he knew with they were going to do before the did it. But when he changed his tactics he beat Taskmaster, my point is you are not going to have that type of advantage here because as far as I know they do not have prior knowledge of each other so if I speed blitz you with superior speed you won't be able to predict my exact move. Also I like how you skipped over getting drained your life essence drained and getting hypnotized. I know why because you have no counter for it.....At all. Game,Set,Match. Nice red herring though and honestly if this is all you got we might as well call for votes.

Post # 5

#27 Edited by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1:

if you pay attention, every slice destroys 2+ feet of Aku surrounding it

My mistake,when he slashed Aku the second time he recovered with out losing any matter at all. Not like it mattered though my amalgam can parry your strokes with the lightsaber and he is also faster by a large margin.

You have shown nothing that proves he's anywhere near as fast

sorry

uhmm, I mean, I guess I could just jump and spot

Yeah good luck with that.

okay

I don't remember him ever using it on any other occasion

Yeah like you have really read every EU appearances of Anakin Skywalker right.....

I mean, when else did Annakin ever do anything like that?

even against the battle drones, it took a while

Never said he would do it just saying it's plausible. And even if it did take long he was manipulating two at the same time.

so the technical stuff was a red herring?

every time you see them blocking the blasters, they block what you call tracers

Dude the block the damaging properties if they don't they would get well........ damaged and if you want proof:

Yes, and the light is obviously the damaging property, this is obvious because they block the light

Energy weapons fire invisible energy beams at lightspeed. The visible "bolt" is a glowing pulse that travels along the beam at less than lightspeed. Therefore, targets can explode instants before the "bolt" actually arrives.

--Taken from Attack of the Clones Incredible Cross-Sections: The Definitive Guide to the Craft from Star Wars: Episode II

Again dude your grasping at straws like you always do during these tournaments.

But they obviously don't move at light sped

and I don't see how pointing out obvious flaws in logic is "grasping at straws"

The footage speaks for itself

I have actual proof, while you have only posted a single, vague, character statement

No you have nothing you only have the artist showing visual effects of bolts getting reflected, when in reality it canonically stated that the tracers are much slower then the damaging property. Canon>>>>>>>>Your opinion and fan made calculations.

The top canon is the movies, yes?

The movies obviously show the Blaster bolts going at, and beiong reacted to, slower than light

please stop denying blatant facts, it makes debating difficult

I could just as easily argue that Mace was saying the guy could precog attacks

No you can't he did not even have precognition powers. Even if he did Mace saying someone can deflect something going only 40 MHP (as you say) should not prove he can deflect something going at hypersonic speeds again you grasping at straws and being willing fully ignorant. Jedi has blocked blaster bolts just as easily as Blaster bolts and there is nothing to suggest they are slower the actual bullets.

There is something to suggest that they are slower than actual bullets

the fact that, on screen, they move at about .15 meters per second, and whenever a blaster bolt is blocked, you see contact between the light saber and the physical bolt

I mean, if you really just refuse to what's actually on screen, in the movies, this could get difficult

the scan shows a guy tricking Taskmaster

how does that prove anything?

The scan from the Avengers fight, my point was he was able to fight against them because he knew with they were going to do before the did it. But when he changed his tactics he beat Taskmaster, my point is you are not going to have that type of advantage here because as far as I know they do not have prior knowledge of each other so if I speed blitz you with superior speed you won't be able to predict my exact move. Also I like how you skipped over getting drained your life essence drained and getting hypnotized. I know why because you have no counter for it.....At all. Game,Set,Match. Nice red herring though and honestly if this is all you got we might as well call for votes.

Post # 5

Have any of your characters ever hypnotized or soul-drained a demon or any sort of cyborg?

let's start there

#28 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (23792 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1:

You have shown nothing that proves he's anywhere near as fast

Are you trolling or what? I posted a scan of Durge saying Jedi move like slow motion to him, his speed will also be amped to higher digress via Anakin Force speed and he will be able to react even faster thanks to pre cognition. Show me any speed feats that outweighs Anakin's alone, not even counting the speed I will get from the body:

Force Speed:

Anakin is exceptionally fast he has been able to deflect blast from Star fighters:

Casually reflect blaster bolts^^

Has moved so fast he seemed to be everywhere at once and seen the world as if it was at a standing still:

"Jedi don't need luck," Anakin said, just as the attack droids swarmed into the hangar.

Blaster fire erupted from the droids, aimed at Anakin but scattered enough so that he feared for Marit and the others. The squad dropped, scrambling for their blasters. Anakin saw at once his problems. Gillam and Rolai had found blasters and were trying to aim at him as he moved.

Fire from the droids was heavy. Marit had ducked behind a starfighter. He did not think he could count on help from her. She seemed dazed. He saw the smile of triumph on Gillam's face as he retrieved and aimed his blaster, and Anakin's anger returned. He reached out to the Force. He remembered the lessons he had learned from Soara Antana, the great Jedi Master.

The Force comes from stillness,

she had said.

Find your still center, even in the midst of battle.

He saw time unspool before him like a ribbon. He saw it freeze like ice on a river. He saw that he had infinite time to do everything he needed.

With an outstretched hand he knocked the blaster from Gillam's grasp and sent it flying across the full space of the hangar. It hit the wall so hard it shattered. Gillam's smile disappeared. At the same time he was moving, diverting the droids' blaster fire from where Tulah and Hurana had taken cover, pushing Ze behind a durasteel container, and knocking out one attack droid with a thrust to its control panel.

Suddenly the laser cannons from the starfighter on his right began to fire. Gillam had slipped inside the cockpit. Anakin did not lose his sense of frozen time. He was the master of time. He did not worry about the laser cannons any more than he'd worried about the attack droids. It all seemed so easy. He seemed to see the fire before it came, and he knew how to move to avoid it. His movements were like shimmersilk, so fluid it was as though he did not have muscles and bones, only will.

Now his Master was here. He could feel that, too. But he did not need him. He spun in midair, taking out two battle droids while he leaped through the laser cannonfire straight at the cockpit of the starfighter. With one backward slash he took out the final droid. He had a flash of Gillam's shocked face as he cut through the windscreen with one slice. With one hand, he threw Gillam out of the pilot's seat and then dropped into it. He turned off the engines and disabled the laser cannons.

Siri and Ferus stood, lightsabers drawn, guarding Rolai, Marit, Hurana, Tulah, and Ze. Obi-Wan had captured Rana Halion. Across the space, he looked at his Master. He waited for Obi-Wan to acknowledge him. The mission was over. He had been successful. He had found Gillam and thwarted an invasion. He waited, standing in the cockpit, looking down. He could feel the flush of triumph on his cheeks. Siri glanced at him, as did Ferus. He could see the astonishment on their faces. But his Master never looked up.

Never had Obi-Wan seen such a display of the Force from a Padawan. From the great Jedi Masters, yes. From Qui-Gon, near the end of his life. But from someone so young? Anakin's power astonished him. He had glimpsed it before, but now he had seen it unfurl, and it staggered him.

He had not had a chance to move, to help. Anakin had been a blur. He had seemed to be everywhere at once. He had destroyed ten attack droids, disarmed his aggressors, and disabled two laser cannons without hesitation, with even a slight smile on his face.

--Taken from Jedi Quest: The School of Fear

Has blocked/Dodged/reflected blaster bolts from a entire army of droids:

He has deflected blaster bolts repeatedly until they dispersed

Exchanges flashed. Leaps were sideslipped or met with flying kicks; ankle sweeps skipped over and punches parried. The door of the control center fell in pieces, and then they were inside among the bodies. Consoles exploded in fountains of white-hot sparks as they ripped free of their moorings and hurtled through the air. Dead hands spasmed on triggers and blaster bolts sizzled through impossibly intricate lattices of ricochet.

Obi-Wan barely caught some and flipped them at Anakin: a desperation move. Anything to distract him; anything to slow him down. Easily, contemptuously, Anakin sent them back, and the bolts flared between their blades until their galvening faded and the particles of the packeted beams dispersed into radioactive fog.

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

Has processed information in a microsecond:

What happened next would have consequences yet undreamed of; it was as if Anakin Skywalker were having an epiphany. In a microsecond he saw what was coming and knew where it would lead him, but he was powerless to interfere. He felt like a headstrong and disobedient child being forced to sit still and watch a puppet show. A battle droid stepped into the room from the far side and leveled its blaster at Anakin. Reija Momen stepped in front of him just as the droid fired. The bolt, fired at low power, hit her squarely in the chest and slammed her back into Anakin.

--Taken from Jedi Trial

He has outran blaster bolts from and entire army of droids:

Anakin moved with the swiftness and brilliance of a burning sun. Droids rushed against him, their weapons firing indiscriminately. His lightsaber flashing in a blinding symphony of light and destruction, he parried the bolts effortlessly, sending some ripping through the walls and roof, others back into the very droids that had fired them. He wasn't defending now, he was attacking, attacking with such fury and destruction that nothing could stop him. And he knew where he was going—he was headed for the enemy command post.

The droids, unable to give way, unable to surrender even if Anakin would have spared them, flew apart like cheap dolls as the lightsaber cut through them in a broad swath of destruction. The clone troopers following the Jedi had difficulty finding targets, and stumbled over the debris he left in his passage through the complex. They merely followed in his wake, covering his back. Before long he was outside the building and heading with unerring accuracy toward Pors Tonith's bunker. It seemed as if Tonith's entire army was firing at Anakin, but as he ran at full speed over the uneven ground that separated the communications facility from Tonith's command bunker, not a single bolt touched him. The troopers following\ hugged the ground and crawled painfully onward while their commander stood erect and ran unscathed through the burning trajectories of death.

--Taken from Jedi Trial

He has reacted in a milleseconds:

Reacted to sub-Light ships that were flying a "respectable fraction of light speed" :

Obi-Wan was already making that exact move as Anakin spoke. But they were inverted to each other: breaking right shot him one way while Anakin whipped the other. The tri-fighters' cannons ripped space between them, tracking faster than their starfighters could slip. His onboard threat display chimed a warning: two of the droids had remote sensor locks on him. The others must have lit up his partner. "Anakin! Slip-jaws!"

"My thought exactly."

They blew past the tri-fighters, looping in evasive spirals. The droid ships wrenched themselves into pursuit maneuvers that would have killed any living pilot. The slip-jaws maneuver was named for the scissorlike mandibles of the Kashyyyk slash-spider. Droids closing rapidly on their tails, cannonfire stitching space on all sides, the two Jedi pulled their ships through perfectly mirrored rolls that sent them streaking head-on for each other from opposite ends of a vast Republic cruiser. For merely human pilots, this would be suicide. By the time you can see your partner's starfighter streaking toward you at a respectable fraction of lightspeed, it's already too late for your merely human reflexes to react.

But these particular pilots were far from merely human.

The Force nudged hands on control yokes and the Jedi starfighters twisted and flashed past each other belly-to-belly, close enough to scorch each other's paint.

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

He has reacted to lighting:

Anakin's speeder shrieked through the rain, dodging forked bolts of lightning that shot up from towers into the clouds, slicing across traffic lanes, screaming past spacescrapers so fast that his shock-wake cracked windows as he passed

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

My amalgam out classes yours in speed period.

I mean, when else did Annakin ever do anything like that?

I remember him doing it but I don't know where exactly. As I said disregard I ever brought it up I do not need it anyway.

so the technical stuff was a red herring?

No I meant the whole blaster bolt discussion is, it is diverging from the topic and honestly you have yet to state how you are even going to beat my character the only thing your hopping on right now is blaster bolts.

Yes, and the light is obviously the damaging property, this is obvious because they block the light

No it's not and I posted Sources saying it's not you can't deny canon.

But they obviously don't move at light sped

and I don't see how pointing out obvious flaws in logic is "grasping at straws"

The footage speaks for itself

Dude they were talking about blaster bolts from Starfighter which uses the same energy of a hand blaster only faster (lightspeed, while a blaster is around the sped of a bullet) Since it works on the same principle and energy it applies to blaster as well meaning the real damaging properties are invisible what you see them reflecting are the tracers, but the damaging property exploded instants before the tracers what part of this is hard to grasp? Why bring up Footage from the movie when this is EU version?

The top canon is the movies, yes?

The movies obviously show the Blaster bolts going at, and beiong reacted to, slower than light

please stop denying blatant facts, it makes debating difficult

-____________________________-

I knew people were going to try this BS so that is why I went out of my way to mention EU version, so bring the movie up here is a moot point here.

There is something to suggest that they are slower than actual bullets

the fact that, on screen, they move at about .15 meters per second, and whenever a blaster bolt is blocked, you see contact between the light saber and the physical bolt

I mean, if you really just refuse to what's actually on screen, in the movies, this could get difficult

lol what? In the movie blaster bolt (tracers) speeds are obviously inconsistent The movies can never establish a definitive, frequent velocity for how fast blaster bolts are. In the span of the same scene, blaster bolts can be shown flying at distinguishable rates of movement. So how can you rely on the movies as a consistent, verifiable basis for speed when they change the speed almost at random? Besides this is EU version anyway so your point, like most of the ones in this debate, is invalid.

Have any of your characters ever hypnotized or soul-drained a demon or any sort of cyborg?

let's start there

I call this an appeal to ignorance. It does not matter if he's a demon or not you have to show him resisting those kind of effects does being a demon grant him special resisting power to these effects? If so I would like some proof and according to @beatboks1 when you picked the mind of a character you get it's characteristics meaning, Taskmaster has a human brain which means, you mind, which is what hypnosis effects is human, so I will not be affecting a demon because you have a human brain. And Cyborg or not he is still living isn't he? That mean he has a Life Force again honestly if this is all you have we can call for votes now because this is starting to be repetitive.

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#29 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011:

okay, so this is all speed at this point?

I already showed that Taskmaster is far above Bullet timing

And I already showed that Overtkill is more than capable of people who can react to lasers

Even with his cape, Overtkill could still tag Spawn

and Taskmaster has speed blitz'd bullet timers

so that's nice reaction time right there

and the EU versions of any weapon are clearly supposed to be the same as the film versions

and the film versions of blaster bolts are always shown going fairly slowly

#30 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (23792 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1:

okay, so this is all speed at this point?

No it's not all about speed, but if your claiming your going to kill me off by cutting me with the sword you sure as hell have to be fast enough, which your not.

I already showed that Taskmaster is far above Bullet timing

No you have not all you did was show me supposedly speed blitzing a bullet timer even though he was in double speed mode which he will not be in here.

And I already showed that Overtkill is more than capable of people who can react to lasers

Street levelers have dodged lasers all the time what makes this one special? Besides it did not even look like Spawn was fighting with his cape in the scans.

so that's nice reaction time right there

They still fall short of Durges imo remember this is the same man who smacked Obi-Wan around. A man who has blocked fire from an army of droids has block blows from General Grevious who was throwing 20 of them per second at different angles,speed and velocities, has reacted to sub-light ships;etc but that did not stop Durge from b!tch slapping him around;

and the EU versions of any weapon are clearly supposed to be the same as the film versions

and the film versions of blaster bolts are always shown going fairly slowly

Not even going to respond to this because we have been over this already and it's a waist of time going down that road again. Ah I see you still have no answer for getting hypnotized and your life essence drained? Good then.

End post # 7

#31 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (23792 posts) - - Show Bio

Time for me to summarize why I win

1. My amalgam is considerably faster then yours thanks to me using the Force to amp my speed to a whole different level. Not only would you have a hard time tagging me but I should have no such trouble.

2. I can fling you around like a ragdoll with TK, of course you can turn intangible but that bring me to point 3...

3. Even in that state you are susceptible to getting your life drained or hypnotized your are still there but not tangible. But since hypnotizing does not require physical contact neither does drain, it would still prove effective which you have posted zero proof to prove the contrary.

End summarize post.

#32 Edited by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1:

okay, so this is all speed at this point?

No it's not all about speed, but if your claiming your going to kill me off by cutting me with the sword you sure as hell have to be fast enough, which your not.

hey man, that's a bit rude

I already showed that Taskmaster is far above Bullet timing

No you have not all you did was show me supposedly speed blitzing a bullet timer even though he was in double speed mode which he will not be in here.

yes he will

the only disadvantage of double-timing is that it wares his body, but he has a Cyborg body for this match

And I already showed that Overtkill is more than capable of people who can react to lasers

Street levelers have dodged lasers all the time what makes this one special? Besides it did not even look like Spawn was fighting with his cape in the scans.

Okay

So, your saying dodging lasers only counts as a legitimate speed feat when a character from Star Wars does it?

Or are you saying that Spawn hasn't shown enough sped to justify reacting to LASERs?

because that first part seems to go against what your trying to claim

so that's nice reaction time right there

They still fall short of Durges imo remember this is the same man who smacked Obi-Wan around. A man who has blocked fire from an army of droids has block blows from General Grevious who was throwing 20 of them per second at different angles,speed and velocities, has reacted to sub-light ships;etc but that did not stop Durge from b!tch slapping him around;

Durge has also been put down by stuff way below what you stated Obi Wan could react to

a hail of blaster fire clearly put the guy down, when previous Obi Wan speed feast would put him far above such speeds

that's the problem with using only expanded Universe, the continuity is way to twisted to get any consistent readings of any characters


and the EU versions of any weapon are clearly supposed to be the same as the film versions

and the film versions of blaster bolts are always shown going fairly slowly

Not even going to respond to this because we have been over this already and it's a waist of time going down that road again. Ah I see you still have no answer for getting hypnotized and your life essence drained? Good then.

We have not gone over this, and, since you only consider EU to be cannon for this battle

Blaster Bolts are still shown to go at speeds visible to the human eye, and are deflected at speeds visible to the human eye

They are clearly not light-speed, given everything we've seen in the EU

The soul Drain stuff, again, I ask if it has ever been used on any sort of demon, still awaiting a reply

#33 Posted by Vaeternus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice stuff damn you guys go into massive detail lol nice.

#34 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio
#35 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (23792 posts) - - Show Bio

@betatesthighlander1: I already made my 7 post + a closing one, so all you have to do is make your closing post so we can be done with this.

#36 Posted by Betatesthighlander1 (7462 posts) - - Show Bio
#37 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (23792 posts) - - Show Bio
#38 Posted by Jokergeist (4935 posts) - - Show Bio
#39 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (23792 posts) - - Show Bio

@jokergeist: Ignorance is never an excuse for that your getting b!tch slapped

This is going to hurt me way more then it does you........ no not really xD

#40 Posted by dboyrules2011 (12583 posts) - - Show Bio

I vote for DC.

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#41 Posted by Killemall (18458 posts) - - Show Bio

I vote for DC too, though it got a bit too heated a little too quickly.

#42 Posted by Jokergeist (4935 posts) - - Show Bio

I was going to vote, but then I remembered that I didn't read DC's comment...

Voting is now open and if you read this and do not vote I'm going b!tch slap you Durge style :D

...so I suppose I'll refrain from voting.

#43 Posted by DireDrill (2447 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: That'll happen with Beta, you know that.

Anyways, DC's debate wins here.

#44 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio
#45 Posted by DragonEscarlata (363 posts) - - Show Bio

I vote DC :-)

#46 Posted by Backflip (2262 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011:

I read it

I refuse to vote

You both sucked

e_e

You're being an arse, can you stop? you weren't much better by any standards. One could argue that at least their Amalgams worked.

I'm backing DC

#47 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (23792 posts) - - Show Bio
#48 Edited by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011 said:

@thedarklordpandamonium: Haha your just mad because your amalgam battle did not even get to this point :D

No, it devolved into a battle of insults within like a third of the way down.

(yours did)

#49 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (23792 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedarklordpandamonium: I never insulted, All I did was say he used strawman, and red herring arguments which he did. I admit it did get heated but I don't recall me insulting him personally, but I did hammer away at his fallacious case which is something I don't call "insulting"

#50 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedarklordpandamonium: I never insulted, All I did was say he used strawman, and red herring arguments which he did. I admit it did get heated but I don't recall me insulting him personally, but I did hammer away at his fallacious case which is something I don't call "insulting"

Insulting somebody else's arguments is implying that you're insulting them.

But you've won me over.

I'll read it.

(two minutes later)

I thought you did better...

...but I'm not voting 8D

*runs away from Durge*