Alucard vs Twilight Universe

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#1 Edited by majestic99 (8638 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

No prep, no bfr, no time limit, all bloodlusted, Alucard possesses his two pistols, Vampires possess holy weapons, shapeshifters are in wolf form ENTIRE time, takes place in an empty New York City.

Alucard

Alucard demonstrates, in various incarnations of the series Hellsing, an astonishing and overwhelming range of supernatural attacks; these include, but are probably not limited to;

  • Bloodsucking: The ability to suck a person's blood and absorb their soul and, consequently, their knowledge and memories. (He learns more about Millennium after absorbing Tubalcain.) He can also absorb blood through his clothes and skin, as he does with Luke Valentine's blood after his hell hound had eaten Luke's body. Alucard can draw in blood over vast distances (at least throughout the city of London).
  • Superhuman strength: The extent is unknown, but Alucard can physically rip humans and vampires apart with ease. He can slice through Tubalcain's card which is sharp and strong enough to easily cut through a uranium shell propelled at it without the slightest damage to the card. He can rip right through body armor with ease and lifted a falling fighter jet with just his upper body and didn't use any of his arms.
  • Superhuman speed: He can move faster than can be seen. He can quickly move up a large building while appearing as a glint of light to Tubalcain identical to how Luke was appearing to Alucard
  • Superhuman reflexes: he has demonstrated the ability to catch bullets (both Rip Van Winkle's and ordinary ones). He caught Rip Van Winkle's magic bullet, which punctured a SR-71 moving down at Mach 2.8+ speed several times in rapid succession before causing it to explode and intercepted missiles, with ease.
  • Superhuman accuracy: Alucard has been known to hit targets at great range using handguns while looking the other way. He does this by using his so-called 'third eye'.
  • Super Stamina: Alucard can only tire from lack of blood.
  • Self Sufficiency: Alucard can survive for up to 800 years without having to drink blood again.
  • Hibernation: Alucard is able to survive long periods of time without consuming blood, but is able to fight at a usual level of strength after drinking even the smallest bit of blood.
  • Immortality: This ability is rather ambiguous, as Alucard himself has stated that immortality is a myth. However, what it most likely refers to is the human souls inside Alucard; it has been speculated that, when damaged by blow that would have killed or incapacitated him such as exceedingly holy weapons, the damage is instead directed to his reservoir of souls. Because this ability doesn't really grant him true immortality, it can be considered as psuedo-immortality. Although, this ability is no longer the source of his immortality after he absorbed Schrodinger's soul which did grant him immortality. Before he absorbed Schrodinger, Alucard states he's now "hungry", and starts to absorb the dead city of London, after which his soul count was equal to three million, four hundred and twenty-four thousand, eight hundred and sixty-seven. However, the "soul count" theory is just a fan theory, and has never been definitively proven. But it was stated by Anderson that this was the reason for him not being able to kill Alucard.
  • Healing Factor: Alucard's ability to regenerate is considerably greater than any other vampire's. He has regenerated from a pool of blood and from being blown to shreds by gunfire, incinerated completely, etc. When damaged to an extreme extent, his body simply turns into a shadow-like substance and reconstitutes. Exceedingly holy weapons have been shown to incapacitate him for a time, but even Anderson augmented with Helena's Nail could do no permanent harm to him. While regenerating against Anderson, he became a shadow entity at one point.
  • Flight: Can hover or fly in any direction.
  • Vision Powers: X-Ray, Micro/Macro, Telescopic, Night
  • Telepathy: Alucard can read the mind of anyone he so desires.
  • Telekinesis: In the manga, Alucard uses telekinesis to close a door on a fleeing SWAT officer. He also launched six SWAT officers into the air and guided them to flag poles where they were impaled. Alucard is later seen moving a broken down air-craft carrier from the Gulf of Italy to the Dover of London all in a little less than 40 minutes, only traveling at a few knots.
  • Invisibility: Can become invisible.
  • Intangibility: The ability to pass through solid objects.
  • Shape-shifting: Alucard can transform himself or parts of himself into bats, insects, snakes, hell hounds, other human forms including a little girl, an amorphous mass of darkness, and many other forms. Alucard has four known human forms, each with different characteristics and weapons. He also states that his form means nothing and that he can take any form that he chooses.
  • Shadow manipulation: Manipulation of shadows into physical form, which he can then use however he wishes.
  • Weather Manipulation: The ability to control the weather to an unknown limit, as demonstrated by the fog created when he returned to London aboard the H.M.S Eagle.
  • Teleportation: The ability to disappear and reappear somewhere else.
  • Mind-Control
  • Sleep Induction
  • Hypnosis
  • Illusions:The ability to cast illusions, such as when he tricked Walter into seeing Luke Valentine as himself.

Abilities

  • Combat experience: In addition to his superhuman abilities, Alucard also possesses centuries of combat experience. While he usually relies on crushing his opponents with sheer power, he does at times use strategy. When he fought Alhambra, Alucard used shadow duplicates to distract him, allowing Alucard to close the distance between them and deliver the death blow.
  • Summoning: The ability to summon familiars, the souls of those whose blood he has sucked in a variety of forms that either sprout from his body or swarm around him as an army numbering in the millions. These familiars can also include animals such as horses and the weapons and abilities that the familiars possessed in life, but Alucard can only use this ability when Control Art Restriction System Level Zero is released.
  • Immunity to vampiric weaknesses: His abilities and health are not in any way compromised by such things as sunlight or silver. In fact, it appears that the only weapons capable of harming him to any real extent are the most holy of Christian artifacts, such as Father Anderson after augmenting his abilities with Helena's Nail (a nail, which was from the True Cross, which crucified Jesus Christ, and was blessed in his blood) but even that did no permanent, or even lasting, damage.
  • 'Supernatural sense': The ability to sense supernatural activity (In The Dawn, a prequel to Hellsing, Alucard knew the Captain was a werewolf the moment he saw him, and in the OVA, he could see the blessings on Father Anderson's bayonets).

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Special Conditions

Alucard DOES NOT have a soul reservoir(soul count is 0).

m99

#2 Edited by Strider92 (11289 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Throw in every other supernatural being in Twilight and Alucard will still win.

Depends on what holy weapons they have. Are we talking Helena's nail lvl or just holy bullets, stakes etc...

#3 Posted by Immortal777 (3259 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Alucard stomps he has too many crazy powers

#4 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

Throw in every other supernatural being in Twilight and Alucard will still win.

Depends on what holy weapons they have. Are we talking Helena's nail lvl or just holy bullets, stakes etc...

1. LMFAO!!!

2. On a serious note, each vampire have holy bullets.

3. Do you want me to make any other Alucard threads? Because he is my FAVORITE vampire!!!(Since you were the one who introduced him to me.).

m99

#5 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@Immortal777 said:

Alucard stomps he has too many crazy powers

He can be harmed by holy weapons.

m99

#6 Posted by Z3RO180 (3794 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

face palm

#7 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (1988 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Vs. The whole Twilight U., He probably looses, just probably...

#8 Posted by Strider92 (11289 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@majestic99: If you take away his intangibility he could get killed here if they all have guns with holy bullets but since he still has his intangibility I leave you with this:

#9 Edited by majestic99 (8638 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@Strider92:

Nope, he has ALL his powers I listed in OP. Btw, where do you keep getting those pics from?

m99

#10 Posted by Immortal777 (3259 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Twilight crew having guns with holy bullets wouldn't even matter Alucards faster than bullets heck i think they are faster than bullets

#11 Posted by Strider92 (11289 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@Immortal777: Thats irrelevant anyway as he can go intangible and just laugh as they pass through him.

#12 Edited by steelhound56 (1068 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Alucard in a stomp...

It doesnt matter if the entire Twilight verse rushes him at once. They have no defense for Baskerville, or his shadow arms, or his superior strength, speed, and agility.

Holy bullets are not doing jack against Alucard. If a Helena's nail amped Alexander Anderson cannot kill him, then I'd wager nothing can

Helena's nail was a nail used to fix Jesus Christ himself to the cross. Given that it was driven through one of Christ's hands or his feet, it would have his blood on it. If the blood of Christ himself cannot kill Alucard, I'd wager no holy artifact can.

Plus since he has all of his powers, he is quantum locked. After absorbing Schrondinger's soul, he cannot be destroyed unless he wills himself out of existence. He is omnipresent, everywhere and nowhere.

Heck, I'd wager Seras Victoria could take the Twilightverse as well.

Seras was able to withstand a Helena's Nail amped Alexander Anderson as well, at least long enough to snap Alucard out of a torpor.

Given her effortless stomping of Zorin Blitz (who would give the Twilightverse serious trouble), and defeating The Captain (who could likely solo the verse, given his showings of strength, speed, and durability)

And that would be unarmed (only her shadow arm and vampiric power). Give her the Harkonnen II AA cannon, and she massacres.

#13 Posted by Strider92 (11289 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@steelhound56: In this case he could be killed by holy bullets as his soul count is at 0 (stated in OP) so he'd have no way of resurrecting himself. Doesn't change the fact he'll stomp due to his intangibility and mindrape though.

#14 Posted by e3zombie (704 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Alucard could solo Narutoverse and Twilightverse

#15 Edited by steelhound56 (1068 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@Strider92: Doesn't matter if his soul count is 0. Although technically, he would have to have a soul count of 1, his own soul. As Hellsingverse vampires do indeed have souls.

He was at a single soul count (his level 0 release) when he was attacked by a Helena's Nail amped Alexander Anderson. He regenerated right through the holy fire (meaning his regeneration>> Helena's Nail) and ripped the Nail out of Alexander, killing him. This means...

1: That it would take a holy relic of greater impact than Helena's Nail (which has the blood of Christ on it) to kill him. Since The Twilightverse only has holy bullets, I dont see them doing too much damage.

But I agree.... this is bordering on spite. Alucard is strong enough to rip every one of the characters opposing him in half, literally. But he wont have to resort to that, as he has his two guns anyway, which also contain blessed bullets (and also, theyre made of silver IIRC) No one will get close enough to be able to engage him in melee combat, as he has insane accuracy with his two pistols.

I mean, he's a freaking monster hunter. That's his profession. He eats (literally) worse monsters than this for breakfast.

#16 Posted by Nefarious (16255 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Alucard wins with ease.

#17 Posted by Strider92 (11289 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@steelhound56: During his fight with Helena-Anderson his soul count wasn't at zero he simply let them all out. They where still a part of him as when Anderson attacked Alucard a few of them died. Here as the op says soul count is 0 (i'm guessing he means 1 because as you stated Hellsing vamps still have a soul) he means that all he has to do is get killed once and he's done for as he can't resurrect. Had Anderson finished burning every single one of his souls Alucard probably would have died but Seras intervened and saved him.

#18 Posted by White Mage (18691 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Would Bella's shield affect this at all? How much of Alucard's power is mental?

#19 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@Immortal777 said:

Twilight crew having guns with holy bullets wouldn't even matter Alucards faster than bullets heck i think they are faster than bullets

Alucard can move MUCH faster than bullets.

@steelhound56: @Strider92 said:

@steelhound56: During his fight with Helena-Anderson his soul count wasn't at zero he simply let them all out. They where still a part of him as when Anderson attacked Alucard a few of them died. Here as the op says soul count is 0 (i'm guessing he means 1 because as you stated Hellsing vamps still have a soul) he means that all he has to do is get killed once and he's done for as he can't resurrect. Had Anderson finished burning every single one of his souls Alucard probably would have died but Seras intervened and saved him.

Correct.

m99

#20 Posted by steelhound56 (1068 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@majestic99: @Strider92: Then why did Alexander rush to kill him when he released to Level 0?

He stated in the Manga (while Alucard was in his Level 0 release) that in the middle of all those souls, was one vampire. An incredibly powerful one, but one vampire nonetheless.

Scan incoming

There you have it. At his level 0 release, he is at his most powerful (due to being able to summon millions of soldiers to do his bidding), but he is also at his most vulnerable.

If you can kill him in his level 0 release, he goes down for good.

And since even a Helena's Nail amped Alexander Andersson couldnt kill him (he literally regenerates right through a storm of Helena's Nail holy fire to kill Alexander), I doubt the holy weapons the Twilightverse vamps have are going to do anything to him.

#21 Edited by Strider92 (11289 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@steelhound56: I just had a quick check on the OVA and it turned out when Alexander stabbed him he had already taken back some of the souls as he was no longer in his Vlad The Impaler form and was back to regular Alucard. So while Helena's nail could have killed him had he still had all his souls released it didn't because at the time he was stabbed not all of them where out (granted a lot of them where but not all). At 2:00 he reverts back to normal Alucard from Vlad the Impaler(level 0 form):

#22 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@White Mage said:

Would Bella's shield affect this at all? How much of Alucard's power is mental?

You mean his telepathic powers?

@steelhound56:

First off, at Level 0 he can't die(I'm talking in the video, Anderson says "that's why he (Alucard) can't die! That's why he can't be killed!"

Second off, Alucard has NO soul count, so he CAN'T go to Level 0.

m99

#23 Edited by steelhound56 (1068 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@Strider92: He simply shapeshifts back to his old form. He states as he is fighting Walter, that his physical form means absolutely nothing to him. He likely did this to egg Alexander on, as that form is the one Alexander is most familiar with.

In the manga, all of his souls are still released when he is hit by Alexander's attack, amped up with Helena's Nail. The soldiers catch fire due to the sheer potency of Alexander's attack. This puts him into a torpor, and he flashes back to his time as Vlad (author's way of giving us a bit of Alucard's backstory)

It's completely out of character for Alucard to recall all of his souls when Alexander attacked him, as his one wish is to be destroyed by a human (once again, stated in the manga.)

#24 Posted by Strider92 (11289 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@steelhound56: Wow I need to reread the manga Alucard is even more overpowered than I thought lol.

#25 Posted by White Mage (18691 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

@White Mage said:

Would Bella's shield affect this at all? How much of Alucard's power is mental?

You mean his telepathic powers?

@steelhound56:

First off, at Level 0 he can't die(I'm talking in the video, Anderson says "that's why he (Alucard) can't die! That's why he can't be killed!"

Second off, Alucard has NO soul count, so he CAN'T go to Level 0.

m99

lol Yes, that was what I meant. He sounds like a God. So I'm seeing if I can do.......something, about this fight in order to make it even.

#26 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@White Mage said:

lol Yes, that was what I meant. He sounds like a God. So I'm seeing if I can do.......something, about this fight in order to make it even.

that's what EVERYONE says about him once they his powers and then realize he's just a vampire! Holy weapons can harm him.

m99

#27 Posted by White Mage (18691 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

@White Mage said:

lol Yes, that was what I meant. He sounds like a God. So I'm seeing if I can do.......something, about this fight in order to make it even.

that's what EVERYONE says about him once they his powers and then realize he's just a vampire! Holy weapons can harm him.

m99

Gotta say though, this dude sounds like he's about to make my materialistic a$$ some VERY unique jewelry and fur coats.

#28 Posted by saiyan_earthling (4995 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Alucard wipes them out.

#29 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@White Mage said:

Gotta say though, this dude sounds like he's about to make my materialistic a$$ some VERY unique jewelry and fur coats.

LMAO!!!

@saiyan_earthling said:

Alucard wipes them out.

How?

m99

#30 Posted by steelhound56 (1068 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Because he is far beyond them in every possible way. Even assuming they can kill him with holy weapons (nothing in the manga shows that he can be killed by holy bullets, it takes something like Helena's Nail to even harm him)

He is fast enough to dodge a hail of bullets with casual ease.

He possesses enough TK power to move an aircraft carrier across the English Channel at the speed of a few knots.

He's strong enough to tear off limbs, and impale vampires with ease.

He possesses enough rengenerative ability to regenerate entire limbs, and regenerate through holy fire.

He can summon Baskerville, his Hell Hound, to devour practically any living thing. The mere sight of it made Luke Valentine (a vampire that would wreck the Cullen family) practically crap himself in fear.

He can summon shadowy arms that can cut through steel, people etc. with ease.

He can turn intangible at will, and can shapeshift into mist, bats, etc.

#31 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

Alucard wins with ease.
#32 Posted by jojjimbo (1617 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

I'm for anything over Twilight(to hell with those shitty novels and movies). if this was a handicap old man vs Twilight U, my bets on the old man...as for this fight, Alucard mega stomps them all twice...4 times on Sunday.

#33 Posted by steelhound56 (1068 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@White Mage: He's probably the most overpowered vampire in fiction. But, to be fair, he is the original vampire. That has been experimented on and modified to be the ultimate vampire by Hellsing over the course of 100 years.

#34 Posted by SirMethos (887 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Allow me to play the devil's advocate here.

The Twilight vampires actually do have 1 way of winning. Alucard has no defense against Jasper's Empathic manipulation. He could simply put Alucard into a feeling of self-loathing/self-hatred, bad enough for Alucard to kill himself.

That said, I agree that Alucard would most likely win, but a debate is no fun if everyone agrees :P

#35 Posted by Aero_gt (828 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Alucard stomps.

#36 Posted by OmegaDynasty (9148 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio
#37 Posted by kcaz (1356 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio
@majestic99 said:

@Immortal777 said:

Alucard stomps he has too many crazy powers

He can be harmed by holy weapons.

m99

sure he can be harmed, if he isnt fighting at a high enough level.once he is in the game, normal holy weapons, like father anderson's holy blades, are pretty much useless against him.
#38 Posted by kcaz (1356 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

what do you expect them to do? even the volturi will get stomped easily by alucard. alucard will eat all of them alive

#39 Posted by GabrielTDO (14 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

he wouldn't have a soul count of zero for very long.

#40 Posted by LukeTemple (13 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

It is implicitly stated that only a vanilla human can kill Alucard, and the reason Alexander failed was because he gave up his humanity by using Helena's Nail. As such, because neither the vampires nor the werewolves in Twilight are vanilla human, none of them is capable of permanently killing him.

Alucard can't die. Curb stomp. The End.

#41 Edited by kcaz (1356 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio
@LukeTemple said:

It is implicitly stated that only a vanilla human can kill Alucard, and the reason Alexander failed was because he gave up his humanity by using Helena's Nail. As such, because neither the vampires nor the werewolves in Twilight are vanilla human, none of them is capable of permanently killing him.

Alucard can't die. Curb stomp. The End.

i think thats only alucard's believe. nail anderson almost killed him if not for seras and later his own willpower to stand by what he believe. but after he acquiring Schrodinger's powers, he became omnipresent which means he truly cannot be killed
#42 Posted by LukeTemple (13 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@kcaz: It's kinda demonstrated given that monster after monster has managed to inflict massive, grievous harm on him and yet even being reduced to chunky salsa is not enough to kill him. I think his 'belief' is fact, only a human can kill him.

#43 Posted by Ms. Omega (3562 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Being a huge fan of all things Hellsing Alucard would completely destroy the Twi-Douche universe.

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#44 Posted by kcaz (1356 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio
@LukeTemple said:

@kcaz: It's kinda demonstrated given that monster after monster has managed to inflict massive, grievous harm on him and yet even being reduced to chunky salsa is not enough to kill him. I think his 'belief' is fact, only a human can kill him.

i'm pretty sure alucard would have died when battling nail anderson,if not for seras interfering
#45 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@kcaz said:

sure he can be harmed, if he isnt fighting at a high enough level.once he is in the game, normal holy weapons, like father anderson's holy blades, are pretty much useless against him.

Let's assume they possess holy weapons that can harm Alucard. And, stay with me....is Alucard your favorite character?

m99

#46 Posted by Killemall (13496 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@majestic99: Is this normal Alucard or with his restrains off? Normal Alucard would have problems with were-wolves, as he has had in the past. While with restrains off never seen him lost a battle at all, so yeah Alucard stomps.

#47 Posted by TuMadreesPuta (25 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Alucard curbstomps.

#48 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@majestic99: Is this normal Alucard or with his restrains off? Normal Alucard would have problems with were-wolves, as he has had in the past. While with restrains off never seen him lost a battle at all, so yeah Alucard stomps.

Alucard is bloodlusted(he's willing to use ALL of his powers to win) with 2 exceptions:

1. He possesses no soul count

2. He doesn't possess Schrodinger's soul so Alucard is neither omnipresent nor immortal

m99

#49 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

bump..

#50 Posted by LukeTemple (13 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Well, being that the only reason Anderson was able to come close to killing him was because of Helena's Nail... None of the twididdly vamps can even come close to Alucard's strength, speed and sheer invulnerability. Sure, if he starts out with all the seals active they can hurt him, but they can't kill him. Once they've done a shitload of damage and he's had his fun he goes down to level 0 and then takes his time turning each and every one of them into chunky salsa.

Alucard curb stomps twididdly. And he stomps the emotwinkie twice.

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