Alucard VS Superman

......superman flies to the sun. Stays there for an hour while Alucard is waiting and drinking some tea. Super comes back down with a full mass punch and destroys earth. If Alucard respawns...he can't breathe in space so....he'll die..over and over and over and over again.

Alucard is overrated here because of this Soul s*it!! Dante beats pre shroudeinger Alucard .....did I spell it right? And Dante doesn't beat Superman. Let's apply logic.

Superman>Dante>Alucard. And sorry that I'm a bit off topic but I'm just trying to prove that Alucard is highly overrated here. Kill him 3,000,000 times..pffffttt.....Alex MERCER BEAT ALUCARD!!!! Sigh.....

Let's compare superman with Alucard Shall we?

Strength:Superman

Speed:Superman

Durability:Superman

Invunrability:Superman

Stamina:Superman

Versatility:Alucard

Advantage:Superman

Once Superman figures out that Alucard is a magical being that can harm him and that he's a vampire, he will play it smart. Alucard won't see what's coming.

@jogga: New-52 Superman did this ?

And. I don't think you understand me, New-52 has accelerated towards and bullrushed someone at FTL speeds? I'm not talking about ramming someone then accelerating FTL I'm asking if he was all ready FTL when he hit? If not you have no argument.

@jogga: Funny guy, really funny, rules state current versions unless stated other wise, so we're looking at new-52 Superman here.

Rules also state if not specified then combatants start close so he isn't bullsrushing at high speeds therefore he won't move faster than what Alucard can react to. He can either turn into bats or just dodge the bullrush.

......superman flies to the sun. Stays there for an hour while Alucard is waiting and drinking some tea. Super comes back down with a full mass punch and destroys earth. If Alucard respawns...he can't breathe in space so....he'll die..over and over and over and over again.

Alucard is overrated here because of this Soul s*it!! Dante beats pre shroudeinger Alucard .....did I spell it right? And Dante doesn't beat Superman. Let's apply logic.

Superman>Dante>Alucard. And sorry that I'm a bit off topic but I'm just trying to prove that Alucard is highly overrated here. Kill him 3,000,000 times..pffffttt.....Alex MERCER BEAT ALUCARD!!!! Sigh.....

Let's compare superman with Alucard Shall we?

Strength:Superman

Speed:Superman

Durability:Superman

Invunrability:Superman

Stamina:Superman

Versatility:Alucard

Advantage:Superman

Once Superman figures out that Alucard is a magical being that can harm him and that he's a vampire, he will play it smart. Alucard won't see what's coming.

@jogga: I didn't even mention FTL just then, of course the distance matters, show a scan of new-52 superman moving FTL close range.

He won't bullrush FTL close range, Alcuard will just move or form into bats, why do you keep bringing up FTL rushing when it isn't applicabale given the rules? The distance doesn't matter? Did you really just say that?

@frisky4 said:

Wait. No.

Neither can really kill each other, unless Alucard's actually magic, but I always thought there was a difference between his demonic powers and magic. I figured an example of magic would be Walter's wire, with the way it shines, how it's commanded, and whatnot.

They say omnipresent is off, but no BFR. How does either win?

I don't know.

I don't get it.

Superman isn't purely human anyway, not to mention his lack of holy weapons.

I guess, Alucard waits him out, but until then it's a really long stalemate?

@jogga: I didn't even mention FTL just then, of course the distance matters, show a scan of new-52 superman moving FTL close range.

He won't bullrush FTL close range, Alcuard will just move or form into bats, why do you keep bringing up FTL rushing when it isn't applicabale given the rules? The distance doesn't matter? Did you really just say that?

@jogga: Sigh... Know you're new but what you said makes no sense, superman isn't FTL in combat speed he doesn't go FTL all the time, as you've all ready said before he accelerates then go's faster than light so obviously distance is a factor, he isn't going FTL close range now is he? New-52 superman hasn't done that so stop saying he's going to do it. Alucard can react to him close range, not that it matter since this is a stalemate.

IIRC, Batman has evaded supermans blows on a drug, so I guess he's a character faster than light since Ya know superman must have been going FTL because distance doesn't matter.

@jogga: You know Alucard can become intangible right? Superman isn't grabbing him.

I'd like to make a couple of points.

First of all, Superman blitzing Alucard wouldn't do a thing. Vampires can regenerate from any damage.

Wrong.

The only way to destroy them is with holy weapons or by destroying their soul.

Wrong.

However, this is where the soul count comes in. Even if you have holy weapons, you'd still have to destroy all of Alucard's souls before killing him. Superman doesn't have any such holy weapons, so he isn't even going to be able to destroy a single one of Alucard's souls.

Wrong.

And secondly, Alucard did not have 3.5 million souls throughout the entire series. That number was just the amount he absorbed in London from the Millennium invasion. He had released most of his souls before that. But a while after doing so, he absorbed the souls of all the vampires, civilians, and Iscariot. That is where 3.5 million comes from. However, he has no combat feats with this soul count, so we should probably go with how he was when we actually saw him fight. He would most likely have a lot more than 3.5 million souls because he got that many in just one night.

LOL ! No !

@jogga: Lol you edited your post anyway.

I hate repeating myself but it seems as though I have to- why would he need FTL speeds to dodged superman when New52 superman hasn't gone FTL close range? Why ? Please answer that?

@jogga: Superman is close range here! He isn't attacking him at FTL speeds for gods sake, why

Mention spcae? And you have travel speed confused with combat speed, show me actually show me new52 superman fighting FTL, he hasn't done it, he isn't bullrushing alucard FTL therefore Alucard deosnt need FTL reflexes to dodge.

Superman needs to accelerate to go FTL and he can't do that close range because he hasn't dhown the ability to do that, jeez.

Alucard stomps, he has faster combat speed than Superman and Clark holds no resistance to his magic, mental, ethereal, and/or telekinetic attacks.

And Clark would probably assume he can't kill Alucard after he reforms for the thirtieth time.

@jogga: Prve it! Show new52 superman acceleating FTL of course you need scans to support that and if a character can perceive a bullet in slow motion like say Spiderman it doesn't mean he's as fast as one or can fight at those speeds. You say he move FTL close range then prove it and stop stating it.

They're close range, rules say I think 10 feet or so and new 52 superman hasn't gone FTL at that range, he doesn't isntantly go FTL stop making things up.

@jogga: That's not true. It's the other way around actually. Alucard LETS OPPONENTS HIT HIM so he can give them a false sense of victory and then reform and crush them mentally. His true form is that shadowy form you see with all of those eyes. Superman will absolutely not be able to even touch it.

You said it yourself, Alucard will just LET Superman punch him. And Superman's punches are above what is needed to kill Alucard.

Also, Alucard is LEAGUES slower than Superman.

Yeah but we're assuming morals off in this fight, where Alucard will just finish his opponents off without toying with them. If it's morals on, then Superman wouldn't start off by flying Alucard to the Sun. And Superman punching him wouldn't do a thing. He can regenerate easily from that. Only holy weapons can harm him so where he won't be able to regenerate, but even then, he still has millions of souls that can still regenerate him. And you're right, Alucard is a lot slower than Superman, but he can catch Superman totally off guard easily.

You don't understand how ridiculous statement you say.

Alucard has better combat speed? WTF!

And, Clark has resisted many magic,mental,ethereal,telekinesis. You don't know about it. Magic doesn't mean that Alucard oneshots Clark.

Except Alucard letting people hit him isn't due to morals, it's part of his character.

And Superman punching him WOULD kill alucard, if this was morals off, since City-Busting attacks can automatize a person, where nothing would be left. And Superman's punches are BEYOND city-busting.

On the other hand, Alucard is massively hyper sonic on average

@jogga: Yes, except he doesn't go from zero to FTL though close range does he? I meant feats for him going FTL close range. But there aren't any.

Rules state that if it isn't specified opponents start close range, that's in the battle rules. Please read them. They're close range.

Plus it also states people are in character and have no knowledge unless specified so when has Superman tried to fly someone to the sun whom he doesn't know about straight off the bat? Anyway that's revoked by what I said.

And I saw u say Superman would kill Alucard with a punch... This thread has been done before and it went on for pages and literally no one said that because they know who Alucard is, he reforms from puddles of blood and is only remotely injured by holy weapons, he get shit he'll just regenerate.

Alucard gets murked 3.424.868 times over.

What ? Since when ?

• Catches five bullets whilst his hand moved at an invisible/blurred speed.

He didn't catch the bullets, he removed them from that gun.

• Leaves a partial after-image when blitzing a rabid vampire.

No after image, and after images aren't a quantifiable speed feat... at all.

• Takes off half of a man's head quicker than the other men could see.

Nothing supersonic in that, let alone massively hypersonic.

• Blocks a UZI's entire bullet spray from the same rabid vampire as before effortlessly.

Putting your arms in a cross guard doesn't take massively hypersonic speed or even sonic speed.

• Keeps up with and tags Father Anderson, who was casually hyper sonic against Seras.

There is nothing hypersonic about anderson

• Easily catches a warhead exceeding that of Mach 3.2 between his teeth.

mach 3.2 has nothing to do with that bullet's speed and again jaw speed isn't combat or movement speed.

Apparently Alucards true soul count has already been done.

He had 20 million souls before he released all of them in level 0.

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/cav-hellsing-team-ds1006-vs-vampire-hunter-d-reika-1593056/

@jogga: No at most he'll get liquified, which he'll regenerate from.

You didn't show him fighting faster than light though did you? Here we again how is it irrelevant? What the hell? No it isn't, show him going that fast close range because gee I dunno maybe they start close range? Show him fighting FTL close range, oh wait you can't so please stop passing off flying somewhere FTL as being able to fight close range FTL it's really getting annoying and I already said he wouldn't just ram Alucard into the sun since he's never done that in character to someone he doesn't know.

Atomize? Do you mean destroying every atom of a person? No the only way to destroy matter is by introducing it to anti-matter. City busting punches would not atomize anything. Maybe make people's bodies go *SPLAT* and spread their parts so far you can't even make their bodies out anymore, but not atomize them. And even if he does get atomized, Alucard could just come back by using another one of his souls. And then he will take that shadowy form, where Superman would not even be able to touch him. And then Alucard could just use Baskerville to devour Superman's soul GG. And it is completely in character for him to do that.

@jogga: Not it doesn't please stop saying that. Show him fighting faster than light, show him doing that please. You showed him flying faster than light. It isn't the same, you can't just pass that off as him being able to fight FTL . New 52 superman hasn't done that!

Yeh prove he'll get atomised and even if he did I don't think you get his powers, holy objects harm him, heart stab and decap the number of sounds he has or rip out his heart. Everything else he regens from. That's his powers.

How is it not the same when he demonstrates FTL reaction, perception and movement? The only difference is that one is happening in a battle.

20-40 megatons or less is enough to atomize a person. Superman is above country-busting.

@jogga: Becuase he's flying somewhere which he did by accelerating, that isn't the same as actually fighting FTL come on why do I have to explain this. Plus hes never done it before.

Again, look at Alucard abilities those attacks aren't holy nor caterers towards killing someone like him, Alucard will regen.

The thing is that there is a difference between travel speed and combat speed. Basically just because you can run (or fly) at mach 100 that doesn't mean that you can also punch at mach 100. If you don't get why then just take the example of pro-boxer and sprint runner, the Pro-boxer can punch faster (combat speed) but not run at a superior speed than a sprint runner, similarly a sprint runner can run faster (travel speed) but not punch faster than a pro boxer. The two are different kinds of speed.

Ah, yes. The old Usain Bolt Vs Bruce Lee interpretation.

Which means ?

You DO realize that Flying isn't like running, right? When a character flies, without wings, he/she is moving their entire bodies. Not just two limbs

No I don't, how do you know that superman has to actively move all his limbs while flying and not just "propel" himself through a certain part ? Was this ever explained ?

Aside from that, characters that have traveled at certain speeds have to perceive at those speeds when flying, otherwise they wouldn't know where they themselves are going. You compare it to a track runner, but track runners only have movement and perceptions, thus why they don't suddenly stop, either.

From what I know, Kryptonians are notorious for having their speed exceed their own reflexes while moving at FTL speeds (Kk vs kryptonian for example)

But let's get to the kicker here.

Copy/paste ? How cute.

"If you make even a single miscalculation of direction, for a nano-second during a mass haul space-travel with no beacon, or travel log computer, you'll hit thousands of light years away from where you're supposed to be, and hopelessly lost, as a best case scenario There's no greater reaction speed feat than to be able to do such a journey by your own power"

"You need constant recalculation for logged points of reference. We have triangulated and built a fraction of infinity of them by storing them in dungeons after dungeons of super computers. And that is so they can be used in trajectories that never aproach the fraction of the speed of light, let alone massively surpass it.And that is because can triangulate them depending on the static reference point that is EARTH, something that goes completely out the window"

Yes lets just applies pseudo-science while completely ignoring the fact that scientifically speaking something moving at light speed within earths atmosphere would completely wreck the entire planet and anything moving FTL would travel back in time which debunks the idea of superman being light speed in the first place.

Again, stop being so stubborn and show scans of superman punching or kicking at light speed then we can talk.

I'm backing superman myself but you need to learn the difference between travel/combat speed. Or wait are you one of those people who also believe that lifting strength = striking strength ?

Atomize as in turn the entire body into atoms. He's never demonstrated that he can regenerate in that scale.

IIRC, Alucard could only devour souls of the enemies he has already defeated.