@juiceboks:
No..that's make it a speed feat. Alucard doesn't use his speed that much in fights at first, but when he actually tries to outspeed an opponent he does. Effortlessly. This was seen in his fight with Luke Valentine(someone who's just as fast as Jack), Dandy Man, and Rip Van Winkle.
-------> Luke isn't as fast as Jack, and Alucard beat Luke through use of his souls that Luke's speed had no way of countering. Alucard did have a speed advantage, but this was not the deciding factor in that fight. Luke wasn't a real vampire, he never had a way to win and Alucard toyed with him from the start. Alucard out speeds opponents that don't hold a candle to Jack. And it still isn't a speed feat.
He caught the bullet without tracking it's random trajectory at all, and only moved as it was right next to his face. It's more than just a simple reflex feat, and one that Jack can't replicate on his best day.
-------> Jack blocks fire from a minigun, that means moving his arms and sword fast enough to counter a hail of bullets. Which is more impressive than stopping one bullet with less necessary bodily movement. It's a reflex feat because it's one reaction to one action, not something Alucard sustained. If he had done it multiple times in a row in a short duration of time at differing angles then it'd be a feat measuring his ability to move quickly. As it is he reacted to one action. Reflex feat. It's also highly dubious he only tracked it once it was close to him, more likely his skill with firearms allowed him to have a very accurate reading on any bullets shot towards his direction.
Not all of Jack's high-end feats happened later in the series. His fight against the three blind archers(one of the best speed feats he has) happened in the seventh episode. His stats fluctuate from time to time, that much is obvious.
------->No argument there. Obviously Jack fights better sometimes than others. The series never gave me the impression that EVERYTHING happened in chronological order though. It was Jack's adventures, told assymetrically except for the episodes that relied on previous subject matter. Scotsman episodes for instance.
What accolades are you talking about? I'm referring to on panel feats. Why does getting tagged by Alucard(someone who's proved to be faster than Anderson when he wants to be) invalidate Anderson's own speed feats?
-------> Because he doesn't get hit by Alucard. He gets hit by bullets, bullets are something Jack dodges/blocks/deflects with absolutely 0 effort regularly. The bullets move slower than Jack can move, Anderson gets hit by bullets, therefore Jack is faster than Anderson. On panel Anderson fights some freaks and Alucard, that's it. He doesn't have substantial screentime fighting "real" vampires, and he's introduced with a crap ton of titles like "Dust to Dust" and the like that imply he's very good at killing Vampires for fights we never get to see. For all we know he killed a bunch of "Bonnie n Clyde" vampire wannabes. That's the baseless accolades I mentioned.
That's what happens when one character fights another he's clearly superior in speed to. Alucard shooting Anderson is a feat for Alucard's marksmanship and superior reflexes/combat speed, and does in no way render all of Anderson's stand alone speed feats moot. If you wanna play that game then I can bring up countless instances of Jack getting tagged by enemies and projectiles way slower than bullets.
-------->With the muddy chronological element of Samurai Jack the points you bring up would relatively be shown moot by the feats he shows being within his ability to accomplish and repeat in separate encounters.
And if a bullet hit Anderson then it was the travel speed of the bullet that Anderson couldn't dodge, rather didn't TBH. Both Alexander and Alucard take hits they shouldn't because they regenerate, they don't even have a reason to be at Jack's speed. Jack has to be that fast to make bullets a nonfactor; incentive leads to reason, which leads to practice, which leads to technique, which inevitability becomes ability. Jack's ability to out pace bullets and move his body quick enough to deflect/block incoming firefire shows his superiority in speed.
Which is the version we are using unless we really want to stick the battle rules to a T and refer to Alucard with Schrodinger's powers, at which case Jack has absolutely no way of killing him.
------> Also not necessarily true. Schrödinger's power lets Alucard exist and not exist at the same time, it doesn't change his cursed existence or eradicate the fact that he is still comprised of evil. If you took Schrödinger's box, and thrust a sword through it, that cat that might be alive or dead becomes a much more complicated situation of many more factors than simply existing or not. But that's a lot of metaphysics I don't want to get into. Suffice to say for purposes of non hair pulling discussion EOS Alucard should be accepted as just prior to his level 0 release or he starts treading the line of a no limits fallacy and becomes seriously wanked.
Why would he use souls against an opponent he knows he can beat under his own power, or one that he wants to kill him as was Anderson's case?
MOG Anderson was not worthy of dying to, and I need to watch the fight again to see what Alucard did. However, MOG Anderson would be the closest thing to a real threat we see Alucard face because the holyfire can harm Alucard in the same manner Jack's sword can. If MOG didn't have the nail weakness (removal) Alucard would have lost and Jack's sword will do more damage than the holyfire did. Divine > Holy
Souls like Dandy Man, Rip Van Winkle, and the Hound of Baskervilles are enough to kill Jack.
------->No, just no. They won't be able to touch him, and one swipe with his sword and they're gone. Think Jack can't get one sword hit in? Try 20 in a second.
I'm not saying Jack can't kill him despite the soul count, I'm saying unless Alucard finds him worthy of killing him(which is possible) then Jack won't kill him before Alucard destroys any number of ways.
------->Alucard will be impressed. He's an evil psychotic monster that at some level wants redemption by death and he won't find a better hand to die at.
Even if Alucard absorbs Jack's PURE soul, he will still have to deal with a Schrödinger type event where he's destroyed from the inside out.
This whole thing boils down to one simple fact. Someone destined to slay the personification of evil has no reason to fear a sliver of the power of his main opponent. If Jack can't beat Alucard, then he never had a chance against Aku. As we know Jack (sporting an epic beard) eventually defeats Aku, I can say for certain that Jack has all the capability he needs to beat Alucard. Even if it isn't a Jack we ever get to see.
Comparing a finished series to one that never finished. There's a lot missing in Jack's story, a lot missing about how powerful he ever actually gets. But he does destroy the ultimate Evil, and Alucard is a just at minion level in comparison.
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