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#51  Edited By Floopay

@CadenceV2:

Schroedinger cannot be killed unless he wants to be dead. He's had his head blown off, he's existed metaphysically (that is, in a place where he lacked a physical body), and can be anywhere he pleases, or nowhere at all. It is the very definition of omnipresence. He can be and always is wherever he wants to be, and can simultaneously be nowhere.

He was hardly slowed down by holy weapons, the best Anderson was able to do was pierce Alucard's face temporarily, and Walter was able to cut him up a bit, to which he regenerated instantly. He is more powerful than any vampire. He is the product of 100 years of research. Hellsing amped him up to be more powerful than any other vampire. And no, this has nothing to do with him being able to absorb and unleash souls, as it was proven even Seras Victoria can do that, as could Alucard long before he was part of Hellsing.

Post-Schroedinger Alucard could exist inside of Jackie's mind if he wanted to. He could be blown to shreds, decapitated, could have his heart ripped out of his body, and it wouldn't matter. If he wanted to exist, he would exist. Physically, or metaphysically. Any shape, size, form, etc.

At Level 0 with no souls within him, he still took on Walter, and Anderson...and trumped them both. And this was with no army left. I think you are really underestimating him here.

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#52  Edited By Pokergeist

@Floopay: Seriously Floopay, Walter (who would know), Anderson, and the Major (who would know) that Alucard without his souls can be killed via Heart kill. Walter messed up when he attack the WRONG BODY as Alucard performed a switcharoo. Anderson almost ended Alucard till Seras got involved in Alucard's fight.

The fact is your making it sound Alucard cant be killed when its been clearly stated by all (who know better) and almost done by Anderson that Alucard can. The Souls were also explain to give Alucard the unending life he has. Every kill shot on Alucard is a Soul use up. With 3,000,000 Souls thats alot to kill. Thats why Level 0 is his weakest (all the Souls are released) and he can be killed.

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#53  Edited By Floopay

@CadenceV2 said:

@Floopay: Seriously Floopay, Walter (who would know), Anderson, and the Major (who would know) that Alucard without his souls can be killed via Heart kill. Walter messed up when he attack the WRONG BODY as Alucard performed a switcharoo. Anderson almost ended Alucard till Seras got involved in Alucard's fight.

The fact is your making it sound Alucard cant be killed when its been clearly stated by all (who know better) and almost done by Anderson that Alucard can. The Souls were also explain to give Alucard the unending life he has. Every kill shot on Alucard is a Soul use up. With 3,000,000 Souls thats alot to kill. Thats why Level 0 is his weakest (all the Souls are released) and he can be killed.

I never said he can't be killed. And Seras never entered the fight with Anderson. She shouted "MASTER!" once and that was pretty much all she did. It's also stated that at Level 0 he is at his strongest, but he is at his most vulnerable. However, being purged with holy fire, being shopped to pieces, etc. etc. was still not enough to kill him. The only way to kill him is to remove his heart while he's in that form. You make it sound like Alucard using his abilities to make Walter attack the wrong person somehow makes him less of a fighter.

However, he still has godly speed, amazing durability (as his limbs were able to hold up to Walter's attacks for a couple seconds before being severed), the ability to summon familiars, his magical charms, his guns (all 3 of them), his sword, his pikes, illusion casting, instantaneous regeneration, etc. etc.

All of those are abilities on his own without any souls. If this is level 0 Alucard with all of his souls unleashed (as in, his full army), this is going to be a rough battle for anyone to take.

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#54  Edited By Pokergeist

@Floopay said:

@CadenceV2 said:

@Floopay: Seriously Floopay, Walter (who would know), Anderson, and the Major (who would know) that Alucard without his souls can be killed via Heart kill. Walter messed up when he attack the WRONG BODY as Alucard performed a switcharoo. Anderson almost ended Alucard till Seras got involved in Alucard's fight.

The fact is your making it sound Alucard cant be killed when its been clearly stated by all (who know better) and almost done by Anderson that Alucard can. The Souls were also explain to give Alucard the unending life he has. Every kill shot on Alucard is a Soul use up. With 3,000,000 Souls thats alot to kill. Thats why Level 0 is his weakest (all the Souls are released) and he can be killed.

I never said he can't be killed. And Seras never entered the fight with Anderson. She shouted "MASTER!" once and that was pretty much all she did. It's also stated that at Level 0 he is at his strongest, but he is at his most vulnerable. However, being purged with holy fire, being shopped to pieces, etc. etc. was still not enough to kill him. The only way to kill him is to remove his heart while he's in that form. You make it sound like Alucard using his abilities to make Walter attack the wrong person somehow makes him less of a fighter.

However, he still has godly speed, amazing durability (as his limbs were able to hold up to Walter's attacks for a couple seconds before being severed), the ability to summon familiars, his magical charms, his guns (all 3 of them), his sword, his pikes, illusion casting, instantaneous regeneration, etc. etc.

All of those are abilities on his own without any souls. If this is level 0 Alucard with all of his souls unleashed (as in, his full army), this is going to be a rough battle for anyone to take.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

What I prove with Walter is he can be killed by a Street+ level guy like Walter and had to use Trickery.

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She CLEARLY does more than merely say his name. She in fact stop the Blade from killing Alucard.

I agree with the last 2 parts.

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#55  Edited By Floopay

@CadenceV2 said:

@Floopay said:

@CadenceV2 said:

@Floopay: Seriously Floopay, Walter (who would know), Anderson, and the Major (who would know) that Alucard without his souls can be killed via Heart kill. Walter messed up when he attack the WRONG BODY as Alucard performed a switcharoo. Anderson almost ended Alucard till Seras got involved in Alucard's fight.

The fact is your making it sound Alucard cant be killed when its been clearly stated by all (who know better) and almost done by Anderson that Alucard can. The Souls were also explain to give Alucard the unending life he has. Every kill shot on Alucard is a Soul use up. With 3,000,000 Souls thats alot to kill. Thats why Level 0 is his weakest (all the Souls are released) and he can be killed.

I never said he can't be killed. And Seras never entered the fight with Anderson. She shouted "MASTER!" once and that was pretty much all she did. It's also stated that at Level 0 he is at his strongest, but he is at his most vulnerable. However, being purged with holy fire, being shopped to pieces, etc. etc. was still not enough to kill him. The only way to kill him is to remove his heart while he's in that form. You make it sound like Alucard using his abilities to make Walter attack the wrong person somehow makes him less of a fighter.

However, he still has godly speed, amazing durability (as his limbs were able to hold up to Walter's attacks for a couple seconds before being severed), the ability to summon familiars, his magical charms, his guns (all 3 of them), his sword, his pikes, illusion casting, instantaneous regeneration, etc. etc.

All of those are abilities on his own without any souls. If this is level 0 Alucard with all of his souls unleashed (as in, his full army), this is going to be a rough battle for anyone to take.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

What I prove with Walter is he can be killed by a Street+ level guy like Walter and had to use Trickery.

7:50

She CLEARLY does more than merely say his name. She in fact stop the Blade from killing Alucard.

I agree with the last 2 parts.

Walter, Street Level+? The guy can cut buildings down with zero issues, and tanks blows from 30 tonners....He's well above street level...

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#56  Edited By Floopay

@CadenceV2:

Also in that video, Alucard seems to be pretty casually unafraid of the blade going into him, even when Seras enters the conflict (if you watch carefully, you can still see the blade move a bit after she grabs it).

Could Anderson have beat him? Maybe, maybe not. Personally, I think the only person who was really powerful enough to beat him is Walter, and I think a non-Millenium Walter would have a much much greater chance (him in his prime). I think he would have let Anderson beat him had Anderson not become a true monster like he had, but the only person who has shown a level of speed, durability, striking power, and overall ability high enough to compete with Alucard was Walter. The guy is ridiculously powerful.

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#57  Edited By Miki1111

Alucard wins his healing is his trump card plus he is mutch faster and can pass through solid objects and there are also HellHounds :)

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#58  Edited By AwesomeMoorwen

Shame I came to this vs too late, because sweet Jesus are you guys underestimating Jackie here. Okay first off, I'll say that a fight with post Schrodinger Alucard, it's a tie, or Alucard comes out with a victory but barely. The best he could do is tire out Jackie and the Darkness where it would take months to ressurect him. At best a tie or Schro-Ally wins by tiring Jack out. A fight with Pre-Schrodinger Alucard? Jackie RAPES. I'll just leave these here if the're any doubts http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t415044.html http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t561185.html-(only difference is this is up to date) So yeah in a nutshell, Jackie DESTROYS pre-Schro Alucard.

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The Current Darkness or Jackie's last incarnation wasn't affected by light so no one dies here unless the Witchblade is present

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The Darkness devoured galaxy.

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People forget that the Darkness is a primal, possibly multiversal abstract entity since he is the Darkness before creation. Jackie wins even if he is just the host

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#64  Edited By LimitlessEdge

The Darkness makes Alucard look like a chump.

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Stalemate. I'm not sure either can put the other down.