Alucard & Seras vs Vampire Hunters

Nobody I guess, didn't know if this is still considered a curbstomp some where along the lines.

Alucard solos. 

" Alucard solos.  "

Where's Anderson?

" Where's Anderson? "

" alucard can survive being attacked by silver weapons "

" @CosmicSpiral said:

" Alucard solos.  "

Really? I would think at least D and Vampirella would give him some problems. That and Blade has silver arsenal, as well as Selene which hurts Hellsing Vampires. Even if it doesn't kill him. "

" @OmegaDynasty said:

" @CosmicSpiral said:

" Alucard solos.  "

Really? I would think at least D and Vampirella would give him some problems. That and Blade has silver arsenal, as well as Selene which hurts Hellsing Vampires. Even if it doesn't kill him. "

Quantum-locked nature now. Alucard cannot die. Add in shapeshifting, soul-devouring, and ridiculous aim.  "

" @CosmicSpiral said:

" @OmegaDynasty said:

" @CosmicSpiral said:

" Alucard solos.  "

Really? I would think at least D and Vampirella would give him some problems. That and Blade has silver arsenal, as well as Selene which hurts Hellsing Vampires. Even if it doesn't kill him. "

Quantum-locked nature now. Alucard cannot die. Add in shapeshifting, soul-devouring, and ridiculous aim.  "

I was thinking Alucard before he absorbed Schrodinger.  "

Anderson'd be all:  "Empty threat of a coward vampire that hides behind the weapons of man." 

T1, but with D as a problem.

@saiyan_earthling: @Fehafare: @OmegaDynasty:

Alucard solos. And sunlight/silver/garlic(traditional vampire weaknesses) do not harm Alucard in the very least.

Alucard and Seras take this.

Alucard is a ridiculously powerful vampire, with over 3,000,000 souls in his possession. It is unknown if he can actually be killed, as he was able to withstand a Helena's Nail amped Alexander Anderson, even while in his Level 0 release, where he is his most vulnerable. He regenerated right through his attack to rip the Nail out of Alexander's chest.

He possesses TK of unknown power. His TK was able to move an aircraft carrier at the speed of a few knots across the English Channel, with apparently no effort on Alucard's part.

more of his powers and abilities can be found here

http://hellsing.wikia.com/wiki/Alucard

Seras is quite formidable herself. She effortlessly stomped Zorin once she became a true vampire, and managed to defeat The Captain of Millenium, who displayed some impressive feats of strength, speed and durability. Before becoming a true vampire, she was able to fire a dual AA cannon weighing over 700 pounds that used 30mm shells as ammo without any visible strain. Once she detached the ammo boxes, she was able to carry around said AA cannon and fire it untethered with no strain.

more on Seras Victoria

Its unclear how strong she actually became once she drank Pip's blood, but when she rushed to Integra's defense in the manga, Alexander Anderson states that she is beyond any of the other members of Iscariot now that she has become a full fledged vampire.

She was durable enough against holy artifacts to withstand an attack from Helena's Nail long enough to snap Alucard out of a torpor caused by said artifact.

more on Seras

http://hellsing.wikia.com/wiki/Seras_Victoria

D may be the only reasonable challenge here. The rest haven't displayed enough power to be able to take down the Hellsing duo.

@steelhound56 said:

Alucard and Seras take this.

Alucard is a ridiculously powerful vampire, with over 3,000,000 souls in his possession. It is unknown if he can actually be killed, as he was able to withstand a Helena's Nail amped Alexander Anderson, even while in his Level 0 release, where he is his most vulnerable. He regenerated right through his attack to rip the Nail out of Alexander's chest.

He possesses TK of unknown power. His TK was able to move an aircraft carrier at the speed of a few knots across the English Channel, with apparently no effort on Alucard's part.

more of his powers and abilities can be found here

http://hellsing.wikia.com/wiki/Alucard

Seras is quite formidable herself. She effortlessly stomped Zorin once she became a true vampire, and managed to defeat The Captain of Millenium, who displayed some impressive feats of strength, speed and durability. Before becoming a true vampire, she was able to fire a dual AA cannon weighing over 700 pounds that used 30mm shells as ammo without any visible strain. Once she detached the ammo boxes, she was able to carry around said AA cannon and fire it untethered with no strain.

more on Seras Victoria

Its unclear how strong she actually became once she drank Pip's blood, but when she rushed to Integra's defense in the manga, Alexander Anderson states that she is beyond any of the other members of Iscariot now that she has become a full fledged vampire.

She was durable enough against holy artifacts to withstand an attack from Helena's Nail long enough to snap Alucard out of a torpor caused by said artifact.

more on Seras

http://hellsing.wikia.com/wiki/Seras_Victoria

D may be the only reasonable challenge here. The rest haven't displayed enough power to be able to take down the Hellsing duo.

The only real threat is D, or Anderson if he has Helena's Nail (no Holy artifact can kill Vampires better then the Nail with Christ's Blood on it).

I think Team 1 wins if they can defeat D (he will be quite a threat).

Post-Schro Alucard wins easily though.

Post Schrodinger Alucard solos.

Pre-Schrondinger Alucard and Seras still win, maybe stumbling when they get around to D.

More specifics on gear loadout for each teams, rules and what not would probably help.

Seras solos.

"D" solos all of them. It's not funny. He breaks universal laws of physics, negates regen, and cut the Akashic Record to pieces. Alucard's Quantum-Lock is meaningless before that.

Please post feats for him or link me to somewhere i can watch the movie? I haven't seen it in a long while.

@dratini1331: Don't bother with the animated features. They're Non-Canon. The Novels are the only True Canon.

Vampire Hunter D Vol.14 "Dark Road Prt1&2" Page 194

The exoskeleton was equipped with automatic repair circuits. They would work to restore not only the armor, but also the person using it.

D's sword had narrowly missed Roland's heart, instead piercing his right lung clean through to his back. The laws of physics said it was impossible to penetrate the armor, yet the swordsman had come to within a fraction of an inch of skewering the man within it -- thanks to his peerless skill with a blade. What's more, Roland's cellular tissue wouldn't knit back together. An injury from an ordinary sword or spear -- or even from a bullet -- could be healed by the ageless and immortal flesh of the Nobility in the blink of an eye, with the wound closing immediately. Even nerve-cell damage that human beings never recovered from could be repaired by an ability on par with the mythical Hydra. It wasn't a special sword. And this hadn't been some bizarre sword technique that could bend three-dimensional space. It was just an ordinary thrust. And yet, the ravaged cells gave the duke searing pain, and the lifeblood gushing out required immediate medical attention.

So basically we get a pure and simple stated Plot Device quote. The very quote explains for no reason at all why this happen or how it works. It is baseless assumption it should work on Alucard who has explanation of why this attack would not work.

Not that it matters as it matters, your quote is a technological feat of healing, not a magic one like Alucards.

Current Alucard would be immune to anything D does thanks to his Cheshire Cat powers.

@cadencev2: Don't be dense. Anyone familiar with the series knows the reasons and they are performed regularly. "D" is the son of the Sacred Ancestor whose essentially a god in the VHD-verse. A guy who has 4th-Dimensional Technology and who turned a planet around that was thrown at the Earth when it came within 5million miles.

VHD Vol.16 "Tyrant's Stars" Page 76-77

"Ah, what a time it was! It was the anniversary of an ancient holiday. We'd already tapped the power of magma and the ley lines to give Valcua a black eye, but we never imagined he'd pay us back with a shooting star."

His missiles were small, metallic meteors summoned by remote control from an asteroid belt two hundred million miles from Earth. Moving at fifteen miles per second when they hit the atmosphere, the five hundred meteorites were greeted with fire from space cannons, but one of them managed to make it through the defensive net and strike the center of the Frontier. For three hundred miles in all directions the ground rose up to the heavens, mountains vanished and seas boiled away. The dead numbered thirty million.

This incident caused such ferver among the Nobility that an inquest was held to find out why the meteorite hadn't been detected beforehand. The conclusion they reached was a simple one. Composed largely of darkness and radiation, outer space was something the Nobility loved like it was their own parent. It had never occurred to them that the majestic void might betray them, so they hadn't seen any reason to keep an eye on the heavens. Who would dare to probe the secrets of their beloved parents' heart?

However, they began to scrutinize space much more closely, and just five days later, they discovered a meteor six thousand miles in diameter--actually, a planet--flying toward the Earth. Based on its shape and speed, they discovered it was one of the planetoids in Alpha Centauri, and there was no way to stop it on such short notice. Not only had the Ultimate Noble managed to wrest a celestial body from its orbit in another solar system, he was also able to use it in a plan to wipe out another planet.

The black arms of despair embraced the three Nobles.

That's when it happened.

"The Sacred Ancestor stepped forward. It was unclear how the planetoid had evaded the immutable laws of the universe to travel to within five million miles of the Earth, but it suddenly changed direction and flew off into the depths of space. In a sense, we were still numb from having to accept our own imminent excintion, but then the Sacred Ancestor commanded us to take Lawrence Valcua alive."

"D" has numerous powers, none of which Alucard can do a damn thing about. "D" Negates regen in all forms and is fast enough to deflect lasers and split lightning in half without effort.

Vampire Hunter D Vol.4 "Tale of the Dead Town"

Bowing and excusing himself, the physician did an about face. Just above him, there was a flash of silvery light. A bolt of lightning that was about to strike his head was split in half, and the fragments twitched on the ground. Completely oblivious to what had happened, Dr. Tsurugi raced off.

Magic and Science are both an integral part of the VHD series and the Nobility possess numerous powers. "D" himself can cut space and dimensions with ease and can close black holes and wormholes with nothing more than a thrust of his sword.

"D's" abilities are known and explained. 3rd-Dimensional laws have almost no meaning to him and he can break them willingly.

@reikai: Though I agree with the majority of what you said. I will point this out, Alucard, even pre Schroedinger, doesn't need a body to recreate himself.

Just throwing that out there, I haven't read enough of D to comment on who would win.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@floopay: @cosmicspiral: He can still be kill. Anyone with soul stealing abilities could win. No Schroedinger means no omni-nonsense.

Alucard solo.

@floopay: "D" has the ability to kill things that don't exist. He has specific techniques for that purpose. And he severed the Akashic Record, which is the manifestation of all Past, Present and Future and effectively gave Lawrence Valcua control over everything. "D" effectively removed himself from the laws of fate.

I'm not commenting, just verifying that Alucard doesn't need a body to regenerate, even pre Schroedinger.

As for that technique, obviously Alucard can't beat someone who is a universal level character. Even with omnipresents, if someone can destroy the entire universe (multiverse?) with one attack, then he would essentially destroy everywhere Alucard could exist.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@floopay: "D" isn't universal that we know, but he did defeat the Destroyer Entity, which was considered a universal-level threat by the Nobility that created it. Since in the span of a few thousand years, at some point it had completely annihilated a multi-layered dimension that created an infinite number of battlefields to keep it occupied.

The Akashic Record allowed Valcua to control fate itself and he wanted to completely wipe out the Nobility as a whole because of a secret that the Sacred Ancestor had shared with him, which drove him to an intense rage and hatred for all Nobility, himself included. "D" essentially severed fate and made it impossible for anyone to control him through such means or predict the future around him.

But on another point, "D" can neg the regeneration of anything. It didn't matter what it was. Vampires, werewolves, mist beasts, holograms, psychic illusions. He could cut anything. Liquid metal armor and Water Monsters couldn't reform once struck by him. Projections made of electrons fell apart when sliced through by "D".

Some people believe "D" can manipulate reality. That's not the case. Like the Sacred Ancestor, he can operate on a higher-dimensional level (4th Dimension) with his abilities. Which is why Roland could not explain in any way how he could've been nearly killed by "D" when the sword, which has no special properties, penetrated armor that should be nigh-impenetrable. Even stated it wasn't a special technique that could bend three-dimensional space.

The technology of the Nobility is extremely advanced and they have mastered virtually all secrets of their universe (the Third Dimension). However, the Sacred Ancestor's technology operates on a 4th-Dimensional level, and was something he created himself that other Nobility have no access to nor could understand unless shared with them and taught by SAns himself, such as Valcua.

@reikai: Wait wait wait. He can destroy all past, present, and future in one strike but he's not universal....that's a contradiction.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@floopay: No no, he didn't destroy Past/Present/Future, he cut the Akashic (or Akashia) Record that represented them. It tells of all Past and Future. With this Valcua could change and alter all the events of past and future.

So he could "Control everything" in that he could rewrite all of history according to his own will. What "D" did when cutting it was remove himself from the Akashia Record, rendering Valcua incapable of controlling or altering any event pertaining to "D" himself. Though this in itself should have been impossible. He essentially severed an aspect of time itself.

I see what you're saying. But I'm wondering what posting it really proves. I mean, he could cut Alucard from the past/present/future? Though with Schroedinger, Alucard could just scatter himself across all of the past/present/future. His ability allows him to exist purely on the basis that he thinks he exists. Which Alucard himself was able to conquer (as the person he killed literally removed Alucard from existence) and came back to life anyway.

Again, I'm not doubting D or debating for Alucard, but Alucard has quite a bit of weird quirky powers that were displayed in his very short existence.

Over and above that he doesn't even need a body to come back to life (shown in the first volume of Hellsing), so he can remove Alucard's regeneration and then obliterate his body from existence and Alucard could still come back without Schroedinger.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

OK now I have more context to how D can do the things he does it makes more sense. What you posted before read like squirrel Girl ****.

@floopay: In the beginning Alucard could have his body blown to pieces and not care because he could reform himself and all of this was dependent upon the power of the 3million+ souls he had contained inside him. After Schrodinger, Alucard actually lost the majority of his other abilities to acquire this near omnipresence.

However, prior to this, Alucard's body had never been completely destroyed or disintegrated, just torn apart, so there was always something for him to come back from. After Schrodinger, basically the only thing that allows him to exist is his conscious thought.

We already know "D" can cut time, space and dimensions. To which breaking out of a sealed dimensions caused caustic effects across time and space as it sought to right itself. One such effect was a black hole forming just long enough to swallow Pluto before vanishing, and multiple instances across time of ships and planes vanishing over the area that humans called the Bermuda Triangle.

"D" has cut psychic projections, illusions and energies, as well as projected his own Will to injure the Sacred Ancestor, something that has never been done...ever. In all the history of the Nobility, SAns has not once been injured, not even in battle against other Nobles despite all their vast technology and powers. What "D" did was completely unprecedented.

In the first Volume Alucard melts his own body into a pool of blood and it disappears. Many people misconstrue this feat as to being something it's not. They say Alucard regenerates from the pool of blood. However, if you read or watch it, he clearly doesn't use the pool of blood at all. It's the hundreds of bats that come bursting in our of nowhere that reform his body.

As I said, as of the first volume Alucard has proven that he does not require a body to reform himself.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@floopay: In a number of instances the parts of Alucard's body turned into bats and then reformed. Hellsing Ultimate actually shows this and HU is the closest adaptation of the Manga there is.

This was shown fairly early when Anderson had seemingly killed Alucard and severed his head. Afterwords, Alucard's entire body either turned liquid or broke apart into bats, including his head that Seras had carried around. This actually did show that he had to reconstitute himself from his remains, and the part of him disappearing through the floor and walls is, more or less, just phasing through matter with magic.

He did this later on as well after the Valentine Brothers killed so many of the Hellsing Org's men and they recruited new people, to which Alucard popped out of the wall and startled them. Shown quite hilariously by Team Four Star in their "Hellsing Abridged" series.

@reikai: Love Abridged btw.

But Alucard does not turn his body into bats in the first fight with Anderson. His body melts into blood and forms a message before Seras.

In fact this is shown more solidly in the fact that the entire area is blanketed in a divine barrier created by Anderson. However, Alucard's bats (which clearly weren't from his body, as the Barrier still stood and hadn't been broken from the inside) broke through the barrier and reformed his body.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@floopay: Some of the things in Hellsing are a bit wonky, and the original manga concept was...adult content only. On that I am serious. The first version was a one volume Adult Manga.

Anyway, Alucard's real self is actually contained within his Coffin. As we see later, when he releases the Zero seal, everything comes pouring out of it. In essence the Alucard who goes around and gets torn up is something akin to an Avatar he uses until his true self was released. So it wasn't as if he didn't have a body, but that his real one was in another location the whole time.

Though no matter how you look at it, Alucard has nothing that can even hurt "D", whereas "D" has any number of ways to put Alucard down for good. Including drawing in every part of him into Left Hand.

I am not debating at all, I am merely clarifying feats. Also, I have to disagree with the coffin.

I will admit much is open to interpretation, and either of us could be wrong. But it was pretty clear that Alucard did, in fact, exist outside of his coffin. What seemed to really be sealed within the coffin, was Alucard's other souls.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@floopay: Though again, that could be as an Avatar of sorts since it didn't matter what happened to it, and Alucard's true self didn't appear until the last seal was opened and all the souls came pouring out.

If I recall correctly, after this happened he seemed to have trouble remembering who Seras was. This may be because the Alucard who was with her is only a part of the Real Alucard who was sealed.

And I know you're not debating. But I've been over this so many times on multiple forums. Just about everyone's idea of "D" is based entirely on his showing in the animated movie "Bloodlust". So they all assume he gets stomped. Until I come in with the Novels and then realize how Op'd out he is. I'm still waiting for the full VHD animated series that's supposed to be coming out alongside a full Live Action movie.

@reikai: He walked over and put his hand right on Seras's head and greeted her....He had no issue recalling who Seras was.

He greatly regarded Anderson when the two met each other, and the same went for Walter. He even recapped the events of Hellsing: Dawn, where Alucard tranformed into girlycard and asked Walter if he remembered that form.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@floopay: I'll have to re-read. But anyway, weirdness aside, "D" eviscerates him and he stays eviscerated. That's how it works with him. Even extra-dimensional entities know this to be true.

@reikai: Again, not debating, just clarifying.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay