#1 Posted by Perfect Cell (3470 posts) - - Show Bio

Who wins in this devastating battle?

#2 Posted by IcePrince_X (4865 posts) - - Show Bio

The X-Ladies take this one... Jean Grey, Rachel Grey, Storm, Rogue, Psylocke among others are more powerful than their male counterpart.

#3 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio

x women easily

#4 Posted by Iron Maiden (364 posts) - - Show Bio

I see a few cool match-ups, but for the most part the X-women have this one in the bag. Unless Iceman flash freezes all of them and Colossus and Wolverine fastball special's them.

#5 Posted by Rainman89 (56 posts) - - Show Bio

Is professor X included? Magneto?

#6 Posted by warlock360 (28155 posts) - - Show Bio

X-MEN win... because the mutant with the nullifying powers is male ;)

#7 Posted by Jaadu (537 posts) - - Show Bio

X-WOMEN! they have such powerful fighters! Storm (Goddess of weather), Psylocke (Kick ass Ninja), X-23, Jean Grey, Rachel, and it goes on!

#8 Posted by Jacky (44 posts) - - Show Bio

This topic is way too vague for me.

#9 Posted by Kimikirai (954 posts) - - Show Bio

Girls are getting too much credit.

Here is some X-men that weren't mentioned:

Legion was an X-man.
Magneto was an X-man.
Sunfire was an X-man.
Joseph was an X-man.
X-man was an X-man.
Juggernaut was an X-man.
Cable was an X-man.

Lets also not forget that Gambit without inhibitors is a VERY powerful mutant. When Gambit fought New Sun, he was part of the X-men.

#10 Posted by Iron Doom (864 posts) - - Show Bio

X-men because they have all of the heavy hitters and they have prof X which means this is over before it started

#11 Posted by One-Above-All (485 posts) - - Show Bio

That kid who could change TV channels by blinking should be able to solo the X-Women.

#12 Posted by warlock360 (28155 posts) - - Show Bio
One-Above-All said:
"That kid who could change TV channels by blinking should be able to solo the X-Women."
LOL
#13 Posted by cpt_linger (2902 posts) - - Show Bio

x-men, curbstomp. i always wondered, x-men or x-man, then i decided, both...  x-mean!

#14 Posted by warlock360 (28155 posts) - - Show Bio

corny

#15 Posted by pixelized (62883 posts) - - Show Bio

The women

#16 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

With Phoenix, X-Women. Without, X-Men. Cable, X-Man, and Professor X trump Jean, Rachel, and Emma, IMO. Iceman is one of the most powerful non-psi talents on the team. Vulcan was an X-Man. Magneto/Joseph. Xorn. Northstar. I think the males just have the advantage in numbers and variety/strength of powers.

#17 Posted by Vance Astro (91548 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it can go either way.Both have ridiculously powerful reality warpers.

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#18 Posted by Meteorite (3351 posts) - - Show Bio

There are more male X-Men so if its every single X-Man and X-Woman then X-Men would win by sheer weight of numbers.

#19 Posted by Perfect Cell (3470 posts) - - Show Bio

So just because there are more males justify their win?

#20 Posted by Daffy Duck (438 posts) - - Show Bio
Perfect Cell said:
"So just because there are more males justify their win?"
No because the strongest of the X-men are the females! It probably only takes one female to beat the entire X-men force.
#21 Posted by Fresh Prince (5234 posts) - - Show Bio

xwomen

#22 Posted by Perfect Cell (3470 posts) - - Show Bio
Daffy Duck said:
"Perfect Cell said:
"So just because there are more males justify their win?"
No because the strongest of the X-men are the females! It probably only takes one female to beat the entire X-men force."
I think you are talking about Phoenix. There is Onslaught in the midst of the X-Men, however.
#23 Posted by kaino12 (3151 posts) - - Show Bio

nope im thinking this is a pritty evenly matched battle. theres phoenix and then theres xman theres scarlet witch and then theres magneto.

all in all i think the men win cus of maggott!

#24 Posted by Daffy Duck (438 posts) - - Show Bio
Perfect Cell said:
"Daffy Duck said:
"Perfect Cell said:
"So just because there are more males justify their win?"
No because the strongest of the X-men are the females! It probably only takes one female to beat the entire X-men force."
I think you are talking about Phoenix. There is Onslaught in the midst of the X-Men, however."
  Onslaught is strong, but if he can't absorb regular Phoenix what makes you think he is strong enough to absorb White Crown Phoenix?
#25 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Onslaught was not an X-Man. Scarlet Witch was never an X-Man. White Phoenix of the Crown is not with the X-Men. The women only win this if they have the Phoenix Force on their side.

#26 Posted by Ego (2324 posts) - - Show Bio

i say the guys, but what can anyone do to actually physically hurt kitty? she can assassinate each person in reality. if this battle were bloodlusted.

#27 Posted by kaino12 (3151 posts) - - Show Bio

scarlet witch was a xman when magneto took over the xmen. onslaught was however  never an xmen.

#28 Posted by Watch Dog (834 posts) - - Show Bio

is this a planed skirmish or a bar fight.  If it is planed then then the win goes to the men and I will tell you why cuz with prep time thay all the advantiges Scot can plan a fight to rievel Steav Rougers and all the male psycics could focus there atetion on a psyic block untill thay overwelymd the female psycics after that I think the rest would fall pritty quick
 If it's a pick fight then it depends on whos there and depending on what reprasenitivs are ther from each side the outcum could veary diforent thusly giving both sides an equl chance

#29 Posted by LegendaryKYJ (1334 posts) - - Show Bio
Watch Dog said:
"is this a planed skirmish or a bar fight.  If it is planed then then the win goes to the men and I will tell you why cuz with prep time thay all the advantiges Scot can plan a fight to rievel Steav Rougers and all the male psycics could focus there atetion on a psyic block untill thay overwelymd the female psycics after that I think the rest would fall pritty quick
 If it's a pick fight then it depends on whos there and depending on what reprasenitivs are ther from each side the outcum could veary diforent thusly giving both sides an equl chance"

IWD? Is that you, dude?
#30 Posted by Dr. Winter (52 posts) - - Show Bio

I have to vote for the X-men. Vulcan, X-Man, Legion, and Xavier might be able to deal with the Phoenix force. Rouge isn't invulnerable anymore so Wolerine cuts off her head quickly. Magneto beats the everliving crap out of Storm. Psylocke is gonna be a problem. Dazzler is gonna be a problem. Polaris is gonna be a problem. Or the fight is over before it starts when Forge blasts the x-women with his power nullifying gun thingy, and then all the x-men monkey pile Phoenix. j/k

#31 Posted by kaino12 (3151 posts) - - Show Bio

dr winter i like ur style. welcome to the site by the way.

#32 Posted by Dr. Winter (52 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanks. It seems cool. I like to the forum alot.

#33 Posted by kaino12 (3151 posts) - - Show Bio

same here though i useualy just hang back and make jokes.every once and a while i'll be seriouse and try to make an arguemnt.

#34 Posted by Dr. Winter (52 posts) - - Show Bio

You sound like my kind of guy(no mo).

#35 Posted by warlock360 (28155 posts) - - Show Bio

X-Men, why you ask me? simple, because they have a "mutant power nullifier" Mutant, basically speaking, it would all come down to physical attributes and i aint seen no body building x-ladies yet.

#36 Posted by kaino12 (3151 posts) - - Show Bio

@voidheart:good point.
@dr winter. i try (no homo)

#37 Posted by Erik (33327 posts) - - Show Bio
Kimikirai said:
"Girls are getting too much credit.

Here is some X-men that weren't mentioned:

Legion was an X-man.
Magneto was an X-man.
Sunfire was an X-man.
Joseph was an X-man.
X-man was an X-man.
Juggernaut was an X-man.
Cable was an X-man.

Lets also not forget that Gambit without inhibitors is a VERY powerful mutant. When Gambit fought New Sun, he was part of the X-men."
I do not think Legion ever became a X-Man or a New Mutant. The Gambit part is a bit of a reach.
#38 Posted by IcePrince_X (4865 posts) - - Show Bio

I still go with the X-Women

Blink can dice half of the x-men and x-villains at once using her teleportation split disc.
Illyana Rasputiin puts a big chunk of the male population to her limbo and they are toast.
Psylocke can overtake strong telepathic assault as she is immune to this attacks. She is the key to defeating the likes of Professor X.

Rachel Summers with the Phoenix echo
Madelyne Pryor with the residual powers of the Phoenix
Jean Grey has the full power of the Phoenix as the White Phoenix of the Crown
>> this was my point of why there are three phoenix at once, battling


#39 Posted by spekqj (566 posts) - - Show Bio
Dr. Winter said:
"I have to vote for the X-men. Vulcan, X-Man, Legion, and Xavier might be able to deal with the Phoenix force. Rouge isn't invulnerable anymore so Wolerine cuts off her head quickly. Magneto beats the everliving crap out of Storm. Psylocke is gonna be a problem. Dazzler is gonna be a problem. Polaris is gonna be a problem. Or the fight is over before it starts when Forge blasts the x-women with his power nullifying gun thingy, and then all the x-men monkey pile Phoenix. j/k"

No, they can't beat phoenix. X-man would have chance, but none of them can't beat fully power phoenix. and jean grey is white phoenix of the crown. Any x-men can't beat white phoenix.
#40 Posted by Dr. Winter (52 posts) - - Show Bio

White Phoenix of the crown isn't in this battle. X-man would have a chance, but if he has help from Vulcan(who may be able to absorb some of it's power), Xavier who could very well shut off Jean mind, Legion who is like ten times to Psion Xavier is. Come on, You do the math Longshot steps on the field, and she's done.  

#41 Posted by Dr. Winter (52 posts) - - Show Bio

That's crazy talk. Nate wasn't just taken during the Onslaught storyline. Sinister grabbed him from X-Force with some eye boogie thing. Nate is stronger than Jean also. Jean never had the strain of having limitless amounts of psionic energy so to say that is crazy talk. She's never harnessed anywhere near as much psionic energy as Nate Grey. The whole maddie thing has nothing to do with this fight. Jean couldn't even touch Legion ever. Nate is out of her league. And skill is only gonna get her so far in this fight. Jean isn't gonna do anything to him that he hasn't had to deal with before with Stryfe, Holocaust, or even Burning Tiger.  Also his power is not identicle to that of the Jean of his world. He's stronger. far stronger. But alas all that means nothing he's not working alone in this fight. Neither is Jean. My only real question is who said Nate Grey was stronger than Jean???   

#42 Posted by HellionVulcan (4005 posts) - - Show Bio
Korg said:
"With Phoenix, X-Women. Without, X-Men. Cable, X-Man, and Professor X trump Jean, Rachel, and Emma, IMO. Iceman is one of the most powerful non-psi talents on the team. Vulcan was an X-Man. Magneto/Joseph. Xorn. Northstar. I think the males just have the advantage in numbers and variety/strength of powers."
Yup i agree & with Juggernaut on male team only Phoenix can do damage to him the other females get crushed badly but phoenix has to deal with so many highly powerful men aka X-man cable Gambit aka Newsun & list go's on .. .
#43 Posted by kaino12 (3151 posts) - - Show Bio

well lets  see... i'd still say the xmen because if phoenix were fighting them i would say she would stop fighting when proffessor x mind controled one of her allies to attack her leaving enough time for the host of people just as strong to come in and kill her.

#44 Edited by Dr. Winter (52 posts) - - Show Bio

Phoenix of the black throne, show me where the 616 Jean was stated to have this white fountain crap. AOA is different then 616. Just look at Psylocke, or the fact that there was characters like Holocaust and Sugar Man who have no counterpart in 616. Show me some 616 feats that prove your statements. That is if you can. Nate wasn't the most stable of characters(sometimes he was a psionic juggernaut, the next he was getting thrashed by Hybrid), but I still don't see the Jean grey of 616 beating him. And the emma crap was just bad writing. if he was about to fight off a psionic assualt from Exodus while suffering from the psionic backlash he was experiencing when he first met Cable(X-Man-14 and Cable-30-31), I think that was horrid writing. Jean has more formal training when it comes down to it. It's not that she's stronger. I seem to recall when she was Nate's age in early X-comics, she couldn't even juggle more than five bowling pins using her tk. Oh, and you're kidding when you talk about Legion right?Don't read Legion Quest,  read Muir Island saga. Besides for Magneto, Longshot, Dazzler, Rachel Grey, and Sunfire, he basically soloed everyone who had been on an x-team from the late seventies and most of the eighties(yes, he was under the influence of the shadow king, but the shadow king doesn't augment to powers of the host he's in). It's not that it was for the story, it's how it is. Do you know what it means for him to be ten times the psionic talent  his father(Xavier) is means? It means the x-women are screwed like a low budget pornstar. 

PS-i bow to your knowledge on AOA. I was wrong.

#45 Posted by kaino12 (3151 posts) - - Show Bio

mokay x women voters roll a will save to see if ur intimitated.

#46 Posted by Mackeja (324 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dr. Winter:

Depends on the incarnation. any Pheonix avatar could "screw the X-men like a low budget porn star," but without that kind of cosmic firepower, it'll be the women who are spreading their legs.