All Celestials Vs Ion (Classic) and Parallax (Zero Hour)
"Ion and Parallax. "
I don t Know....All Celestials....Tiamut and One Abole All???
" @geraldthesloth said:Tiamut and OAA aren't anything special to be honest."Ion and Parallax. "I don t Know....All Celestials....Tiamut and One Abole All??? "
" @comicfanforever said:" @geraldthesloth said:Tiamut and OAA aren't anything special to be honest. ""Ion and Parallax. "I don t Know....All Celestials....Tiamut and One Abole All??? "
Is Tiamut equal at full power Galactus? Is OAA one of the most powerful beings in the universe 616? These two beings, plus all the celestial together - I think Ion and Parallax are in serious trouble? My opinion?
" @geraldthesloth said:OAA is just a name, he's equal power to every other celestial it's more of a leadership thing." @comicfanforever said:" @geraldthesloth said:Tiamut and OAA aren't anything special to be honest. ""Ion and Parallax. "I don t Know....All Celestials....Tiamut and One Abole All??? "Is Tiamut equal at full power Galactus? Is OAA one of the most powerful beings in the universe 616? These two beings, plus all the celestial together - I think Ion and Parallax are in serious trouble? My opinion?
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Tiamut couldn't even beat Galactus in my opinion.
" @comicfanforever said:" @geraldthesloth said:OAA is just a name, he's equal power to every other celestial it's more of a leadership thing. Tiamut couldn't even beat Galactus in my opinion. "" @comicfanforever said:" @geraldthesloth said:Tiamut and OAA aren't anything special to be honest. ""Ion and Parallax. "I don t Know....All Celestials....Tiamut and One Abole All??? "Is Tiamut equal at full power Galactus? Is OAA one of the most powerful beings in the universe 616? These two beings, plus all the celestial together - I think Ion and Parallax are in serious trouble? My opinion?
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Sorry to ask,but.... Can Tiamut destroy an entire Universe?
Galactus is scared of Tiamat. Tiamat has pimped Galactus around before IIRC. I believe Tiamat is stronger than Galactus or at least on par.
There's a lot of Celestials and some ARE stronger than others I believe it's The Executioner who's like 10x bigger than the others or something.
I think the Celestials can win this.
" Galactus is scared of Tiamat. Tiamat has pimped Galactus around before IIRC. I believe Tiamat is stronger than Galactus or at least on par. There's a lot of Celestials and some ARE stronger than others I believe it's The Executioner who's like 10x bigger than the others or something. I think the Celestials can win this. "
I think too... This is all celestials + Tiamut+ One Above All VS Ion and Parallax....I think the Marvel Team wins here...
" Galactus is scared of Tiamat. Tiamat has pimped Galactus around before IIRC. I believe Tiamat is stronger than Galactus or at least on par. There's a lot of Celestials and some ARE stronger than others I believe it's The Executioner who's like 10x bigger than the others or something. I think the Celestials can win this. "So? galactus's hunger is always a viable thing to take into an account.
Yes and i'm not sure how hungry he was at the time, but the fact that when the dreaming celestial, Tiamat, was resurrected his presence could be felt across the universe. The Watcher looked away and Galactus showed fear. This is a feat that shows Tiamats presence, the fact that Galactus and the Watcher show fear at his revival tells us that he is a threat to both of these powerhouses. Galactus knows how powerful he is fully fed, yet he still shows fear of the Dreaming Celestial.
" @geraldthesloth: Yes and i'm not sure how hungry he was at the time, but the fact that when the dreaming celestial, Tiamat, was resurrected his presence could be felt across the universe. The Watcher looked away and Galactus showed fear. This is a feat that shows Tiamats presence, the fact that Galactus and the Watcher show fear at his revival tells us that he is a threat to both of these powerhouses. Galactus knows how powerful he is fully fed, yet he still shows fear of the Dreaming Celestial. "That's hyperbole in writing.
Perhaps but it is based on the fact that Tiamut actually forced Galactus to act against his will in the past. They only met once and Tiamut b*tched Galactus out lol
"The Celestials managed to stop the Goblin Force in Mutant X and while that is not canon I don't think they were written to be much more powerful. "
Exactly, All celestials right?
They easily stomp this..
You have TOAA(which hasn't done much but title speaks for itself), Then you have Tiamut who is fulcrum level apparently now.
Most of all Scathan who would do it alone.
"Ion and Parallax should win here... they could probably wipe out the Entire Universe they are fighting the Celestials in... "
That's what I was thinking. But I'm not too informed on the power of Celestials..
Do the Celestials have a way to stop or defend an attack as massive as this one?
"Classic Ion probably solos. "
Not, If we're talking we're talking Scathan and if we're talking scathan we're talking a being that contained a force greater than the phoenix force itself which is a pretty critical feat in this fight.
I give it off to the celestials.
scathan is from the futureThe Celestials, there are billions of them, and to add the top players, Scathan and Tiamut
tiamut is nothing special
where did you get the evidence that there're billions of them?
@RoyHarperBLOW said:
bump. Also are we talking about The actual entities or their hosts?
As stated in the title, the OP is referring to Ion as he existed during the Hand of God arc and Parallax as he existed during Zero Hour.
For the battle, I would agree that Ion can probably solo this, especially due to the fact that he is able to exist omnipresently, which means he can simply create as many versions of himself as there are celestials. Plus I believe Ion's control over reality is greater than the celestials.
@mrtrickster said:
@X_insignia1 said:scathan is from the future tiamut is nothing special where did you get the evidence that there're billions of them?The Celestials, there are billions of them, and to add the top players, Scathan and Tiamut
The op stated "all Celestials" therefore Scathan is included, secondly Tiamut indeed is something special, he ascended past all of his brethren, and to add before his ascension he was stated to be "the mightiest celestial" and the billions implication came from earth X, they overpopulated their home Universe, therefore causing it to collapse, they have vast numbers
Ion and Parralax win
Can somebody show something to prove that Scathan (or Celestials in general) can win this? Not saying that it's impossible, but I don't know that much about them, so some impressive scan would help me to understand how DC team isn't supposed to stomp.
The Celestials shaped creation and made the Marvel multiverse through sheer force of will. Not really an offensive feat, but still impressive nonetheless.
Impressive, but judging from that scan they created just one universe, and this puts them maybe on Parallax level (I don't remember if in ZH he screwed the whole DC multiverse or just one), so for now I still think that DC team might take this.
EDIT: never mid, I missed a few sentences. Then it all depends on how great is the extension of ZH Parallax (I read the arc long time ago, sorry), and Classic Ion should be at least on his level too.
@eisjfiejss: @reactor said:
Ion haven't feats so he gets slaughtered
In this situation, there would be billions of Celstials. They stomp pretty hard. We could debate power discrepancies all day, but to say that either Ion or Parralax are a thousand times more powerful than the average Celestial is absurd, but lets just say for the sake of argument that that is case... Well, it still wouldn't be nearly enough.
@patera_all: Kyle was everywhere at once. There will never be enough Celestials to overwhelm Ion and Parallax... Kyle had copies of himself, with his abilities, all over the universe. And they weren't even copies. He was there.
Scathan solos by disapproving.
Tiamut solos by dreaming.
Exitar might solo.
Arishem might solo.
OAA might solo.
However, all of those above Celestials together stomp Ion IMO.
Otherwise, Ion could beat the remaining Celestials. Won't be easy however, especially if taking them all on by himself.
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