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#1  Edited By ancient_god

Alien X vs Thanos IG (Classic)/ Dr Doom CC

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i'd say alien x

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#6  Edited By Newblood2333

Isn't current Doom basically God?

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@ssj_god said:

i'd say alien x

as usual º_0

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@ssj_god said:

i'd say alien x

as usual º_0

lmao... isn't that the reason you tagged me?... i'm keeping you happy .. :D

@sophia89 said:

@ssj_god: Not so fast there buckaroo.

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Current Alien X is unkillable(see when the universe dies,) even by omnipotent means(see battling another Celestialsapien.) Ben also has 1/3 control and can fight with Alien X, but never be damaged. Ben could last forever and debate till he can get a good deal(see Ben debate to remake the entire universe in 3 minutes.) I don't know about current Doom withstanding omni-attacks. Thanos is a big problem, since he and Alien X are on the same power level with the gauntlet.

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@sophia89 said:
@ancient_god said:
@sophia89 said:
@newblood2333 said:

Isn't current Doom basically God?

Yes.

scans?

Of him being called God?

Read an new Marvel book, in the beginning of everyone it says the multiverse was destroyed a new world was formed that is ruled and maintained by it's God Doom.

The guy even has Galactus standing outside of his kingdom, keeping guard. Pretty OP if you ask me.

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Thanos and Doom.

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@azterix_ said:

Current Alien X is unkillable(see when the universe dies,) even by omnipotent means(see battling another Celestialsapien.)

1) Alien X can be killed. 2) No one in Ben 10 is omnipotent.

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@hewho said:
@azterix_ said:

Current Alien X is unkillable(see when the universe dies,) even by omnipotent means(see battling another Celestialsapien.)

1) Alien X can be killed. 2) No one in Ben 10 is omnipotent.

hmm.. i wonder how you know that though

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@mysticmedivh: Usually you are the first person to post "Alien X isn't omnipotent" in every battle he is in. I know he isn't omnipotent, I just wanted to rustle you jimmies a little.

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@ssj_god: Objectivity from the rampant Ben 10 wank here.

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@hewho said:

@ssj_god: Objectivity from the rampant Ben 10 wank here.

hmm? how do you know that alien x can be killed from that?

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Alien X is omni-potent. I'm pretty sure recreating the universe qualifies. IG Thanos did wipe the whole universe and that makes him omni as well.

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@ssj_god: Ben asked me to protect him for fear of losing feeling in his organ.

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@azterix_ said:

Alien X is omni-potent. I'm pretty sure recreating the universe qualifies. IG Thanos did wipe the whole universe and that makes him omni as well.

No, it doesn't.

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Doom/Thanos. They seem pretty interchangeable.

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This is all extrapolation; Alien X's only significant durability feat was tanking a universe-busting attack with no damage, so unless either Doom or Thanos are multiverse-busters, their aren't winning. On the other hand, we don't know how durable Alien X is.

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@hewho said:

@ssj_god: Ben asked me to protect him for fear of losing feeling in his organ.

wut? =_=

@sophia89 said:

The IG can destroy and remake Universes, Thanos wiped out half the Universe with a snap:

And Doom recently build a machine that did this:

He is a God now.

by feats.. those feats won't put even a single dent on alien x body you know... even after that.. the body of alien x is only a warped universe... damaging it doesn't affect him at all..... well.. universe destruction doesn't even affect the body though :D

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@ssj_god: I know because Ben told me. "Erika, I'm not immortal. If someone hit me with a mutiverse buster, I would die. Tell them." And so I have told you.

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@hewho said:

@ssj_god: I know because Ben told me. "Erika, I'm not immortal. If someone hit me with a mutiverse buster, I would die. Tell them." And so I have told you.

seems legit

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#34  Edited By hewho

@ssj_god: It'll be difficult for you to overcome. So where is your proof that he is immortal?

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@mrunsmiley said:

This is all extrapolation; Alien X's only significant durability feat was tanking a universe-busting attack with no damage, so unless either Doom or Thanos are multiverse-busters, their aren't winning. On the other hand, we don't know how durable Alien X is.

wrong.... alien x is beyond universe level.. that's why it had no effect on alien x

universe destruction having no effect is > tanking universe destruction with no damage

as far as tanking is concerned... he can do that with no damage also... because he already held the big bang of creation in the palm of one hand and suppressed the blast... so that level of destructions won't do anything to him even if he intentionally tank them (usually it won't affect him like before).

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@hewho: @ssj_god: Here's a theory: what if Alien X is his own pocket universe? Also, Ben can make universes, and wish whatever he wants- so long as he can convince bellacus and serena. B & C enjoy debating, so they would definetly agree to stopping Alien X from dying. If only to stall longer.

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@ssj_god said:
@mrunsmiley said:

This is all extrapolation; Alien X's only significant durability feat was tanking a universe-busting attack with no damage, so unless either Doom or Thanos are multiverse-busters, their aren't winning. On the other hand, we don't know how durable Alien X is.

wrong.... alien x is beyond universe level.. that's why it had no effect on alien x

universe destruction having no effect is > tanking universe destruction with no damage

as far as tanking is concerned... he can do that with no damage also... because he already held the big bang of creation in the palm of one hand and suppressed the blast... so that level of destruction won't do anything to him even if he intentionally tank them (usually it won't affect him like before).

...I know, that's why I said that unless either Doom or Thanos are multiverse-busters, they aren't winning.

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@hewho said:

@ssj_god: It'll be difficult for you to overcome. So where is your proof that he is immortal?

hmm.. it will be..

as for immortality... i don't know... doesn't having age even more than the creation itself..... and never ever been harmed by anything in the whole series just tips the balance towards it? :D

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@hewho: @ssj_god: Here's a theory: what if Alien X is his own pocket universe? Also, Ben can make universes, and wish whatever he wants- so long as he can convince bellacus and serena. B & C enjoy debating, so they would definetly agree to stopping Alien X from dying. If only to stall longer.

why it'd have to be a pocket universe?... he can make a full sized universe within a moment..... technically... according to ben 10.. we're already living in 'his universe' you know :D

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I would go with thanos considering the infinity gauntlet can do basically everything

what a coincident.... so can alien x... but IG have shown to be failed.. alien x haven't..... and he even have greater durability feats.

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@azterix_ said:

@hewho: @ssj_god: Here's a theory: what if Alien X is his own pocket universe? Also, Ben can make universes, and wish whatever he wants- so long as he can convince bellacus and serena. B & C enjoy debating, so they would definetly agree to stopping Alien X from dying. If only to stall longer.

Ben has complete control over Alien X now, Bellacus and Serena won't hinder him.

And that theory isn't really true, otherwise Ben would've been hurt by the universe-busting attack he endured. He didn't get a dent, so there goes that idea.

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@ssj_god said:

hmm.. it will be..

as for immortality... i don't know... doesn't having age even more than the creation itself..... and never ever been harmed by anything in the whole series just tips the balance towards it? :D

No because that's assuming he has no limits because he hasn't shown any. BD

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#43  Edited By Milliardo

What are Alien X's TP resistant feats?

on top of that it had its power raped from its body at one point, and Serena and Bellacus was said to have been arguing for an eternity before ben (which i doubt)

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#44  Edited By ssj_god

@hewho said:
@ssj_god said:

hmm.. it will be..

as for immortality... i don't know... doesn't having age even more than the creation itself..... and never ever been harmed by anything in the whole series just tips the balance towards it? :D

No because that's assuming he has no limits because he hasn't shown any. BD

i just asked you how you know he can be killed.. and you couldn't provide anything greater than 'ben told me so' ...lol .. even a legit assumption holds more credit than that.. considering the fact that alien x originally were intended to be omnipotent XD

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What are Alien X's TP resistant feats?

He doesn't have any, but Bellacus and Serena are still present, just not hindering Ben. Considering how ancient they are as well as the nature of their existence, a fair guess would be to say that their TP resistance is fairly strong. There's nothing concrete to go on, though.

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@ssj_god: I don't need to provide proof that he isn't immortal. You prove that he is.

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#49  Edited By Milliardo

@mrunsmiley said:
@milliardo said:

What are Alien X's TP resistant feats?

He doesn't have any, but Bellacus and Serena are still present, just not hindering Ben. Considering how ancient they are as well as the nature of their existence, a fair guess would be to say that their TP resistance is fairly strong. There's nothing concrete to go on, though.

Alien X operates on 3 consciences, which all conflict. You TP Ben's conscious and game over. as far as i know Ben doesn't have TP resistance. Alien X hasn't even shown TP resistanc, how can you give him feats he hasn't shown.

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#50  Edited By ssj_god

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@ssj_god: But Ben has to argue with the entities inside of alien x to get them to do anything. The infinity gauntlet can just put alien x in an alternate universe where he has no powers.

ben have full control over alien x currently..... and ben IS alien x... one of it's personalities.. you can't separate him like that...

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@ssj_god: I don't need to provide proof that he isn't immortal. You prove that he is.

it's usually the other way around when talking about nigh omnipotents... for example..... would speed steal work on the living tribunal?.... no it won't... because it haven't been shown .. not the other way around.... those presences are nigh omnipotent for a reason.