Alex Mercer vs Cloud Strife

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Alex Mercer the viral killing machine Against Cloud Strife Guardian of the life Stream.

Morals are off.

Victory can be achived by K.O or death.

-Claude can only 2 materia slots.

Which is Firaga and Thundaga.

-No outside help meaning no summonings for Claude and no Brawlers for Alex.

Random Ecounter.

-Cloud and his freinds went into a wormhole wich teleported them into modern New York in year 2009. They get out of the ship to explore the new found world. Sometime later Alex comes in running while being chased by BlackWatch.Alex Mercer consumed Clouds freinds for biomass,Health and Xp.

Claude managed to dodge Alex's attempt to grab him and draws out his sword. He usses meteor rain upon Alex he dodges and it ends up hitting the blackwatch troops.

That's when the battle starts.

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bump(Don't know why I did this. Terrible Idea for thread.)

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Cloud....just for kicks

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I think not.

Mercer survived a nuclear explosion.

and takes rocket launchers every day as a daily routine.He can lift cars with ease.

he levels up a city in minutes.

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Cloud stomps

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Thundaga gives him a big advantage

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@vivide: is that because people think Alex is weak to lightening?

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@dygoboy: Gameplay and cutscene from P1, Specialist Cross is badass but he did use his electro-baton

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@leo-343 said:

@xkstone: He got liquified. Everyone blows this feat out of proportion. If there wasn't a crow or something there he would have stayed that way. And he's never destroyed a city. Just buildings. Over hyped.

Anyway Cloud wins.

more like the supersonic wind from the outskirts of the nuclear blast, if you check the distance from the explosion.

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tough fivht but Alex wins eventually

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@leo-343: outskirts of the blast (fireball), he got pasted by the supersonic pressure wave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dmu0E0p-7w

see there, helicopter pushed ahead of the fireball

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@vivide: if he's weak to electricity then how come hasn't BLackwatch taken advantage of that to take out Mercer?! That boss battle was BS. Alex was holding back

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@dygoboy: Say what you want about boss battles, but it is strengthened by the cutscenes after. He ain't alucard.

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@vivide: sure..sure...Alex can tank helicopter missiles but can get massively hurt by an electric baton??!

There's no info in the game suggesting that electricity is Alex's weakness. The only thing that was he's weakness was the blood tox until mercer evolved and adapted to it.

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@dygoboy: he gets stunned in the battle and taken out in the cutscene so that cross can inject the tox

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@vivide: Alex gets injected in the cutscene because of memories of his past are submerging . And it hurts. He was distracted and Cross took the chance. And Alex beated cross with a punch then he use his hook shot and tried to escape. But Alex caught him in mid air And they went out together,

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@dygoboy: regardless of the memories he still took damage and is seen to be affected throughout. Unless you have something that shows him being immune to electricity.

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@vivide: there's nothing in the game wich suggest that he's immune nor weak to electricity.

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@dygoboy: Stun batons, and the fact that it was used against him. Guns and underslung grende does moderate damage, its the baton that paralyzes him.

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If you are going to use cutscenes as a reason why Alex is vulnerable to electricity, perhaps you should use the cutscene from Advent Children when Cloud is shot by a gun. Given that guns are available pretty much anywhere in Alex's environment, he could K.O or even kill Cloud with a few shots.... I also doubt that Blackwatch would be aiding Cloud, so Blackwatch would be attacking Cloud and Alex while they destroy NYC.

Also, Cloud was knocked unconscious when Yazoo and Loz blasted him with material (not sure which one it was, but it was a large blast). A blast probably about the same size as a rocket (which are also at Alex's disposal).

Regardless of whether you use gameplay or cutscenes for your argument, I think Alex would win. Alex has a much more versatile arsenal than Cloud does and has better abilities. Cloud had trouble fighting Kadaj (with one hand almost literally behind his back in one of the fights and Vincent saved him from another fight). From what I remember, Alex fought alone and was ruthless. No mercy from Mercer. Alex wins.

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#24  Edited By Dygoboy

@vivide said:

@dygoboy: Stun batons, and the fact that it was used against him. Guns and underslung grende does moderate damage, its the baton that paralyzes him.

Funny thing. All the other weapons and attacks within the boss battle do a lot more damage than the stun baton. And Cross only uses the Baton to put a distance between you 2. That was GMIS and there is nothing that backs that weakness up.

And in Prototype a modified electric stick was used on a restrained and weakened Hydra. That Stick has the capability to put down Rhinos and Elephants. and it quickly adapted to it after a few zaps.

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Cloud stomps