#1 Edited by Kingjohnrocks (1989 posts) - - Show Bio

Morals off, bloodlust on.

2 hours of prep for Dumbledore, 1 hour of prep for the Army.

Battle ends in death.

Battle takes place at the Black Gate.

Who wins?

Edit: Dumbledore only faces 100 orcs.

#2 Posted by Agent9149 (2893 posts) - - Show Bio

Dumbledore can't take on a whole army by himself. He would get tired. Plus there would be arrows and projectiles, dragons, and cannon fodder being thrown at him every second. He will not make it.

#3 Edited by Dredeuced (5353 posts) - - Show Bio

This is important: Since Dumbledore is dead at the end of the series, what part of the series are we pulling him out from? His condition and his prep change depending on when/where you're plucking him from before he died.

#4 Edited by Lord_Johnathan (3216 posts) - - Show Bio

Dumbledore facing upwards of two million orcs and a million assorted auxillaries (wargs, trolls, evil men, giant bats, etc)? Are you insane?!? They could throw rocks at him and they'd still kill him! If he could cast Avada kevada once every second, he'd need 69 days with no breaks for breathing, eating, sleeping, drinking, resting to combat fatigue, or going to the bathroom, and assuming he doesn't have to chase down the army in front of him to kill them all!

#5 Posted by Dextersinister (5791 posts) - - Show Bio

What's blue and f*ck's old people. Hypothermia.

Dumbledore dies to the weather.

#6 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (1989 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lord_Johnathan said:

Dumbledore facing upwards of two million orcs and a million assorted auxillaries (wargs, trolls, evil men, giant bats, etc)? Are you insane?!? They could throw rocks at him and they'd still kill him! If he could cast Avada kevada once every second, he'd need 69 days with no breaks for breathing, eating, sleeping, drinking, resting to combat fatigue, or going to the bathroom, and assuming he doesn't have to chase down the army in front of him to kill them all!

I only meant this to have the 100 orcs that Gandalf wiped out so easily, so I'l edit the OP.

#7 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (1989 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dextersinister said:

What's blue and f*ck's old people. Hypothermia.

Dumbledore dies to the weather.

Why do you have HP so much, dextersinister? I'd bet you'd say Dumbledore loses to Robin.

#8 Posted by Agent9149 (2893 posts) - - Show Bio

100 orcs? Dumbledore takes this. Some aoe attacks would do nicely.

#9 Posted by Bo88gdan (4393 posts) - - Show Bio

Army wins

#10 Posted by Miki1111 (188 posts) - - Show Bio

Well 100 orcs he could deal with them though in movies Dumbledore did not actually show some great feats with his magic and he also has the sword of Godric Gryffindor but i don>t know how good of a swordsman he is.

And he could also tell Fawkes to help him that phoenix would pluck out the eyes of some orcs :))))

#11 Posted by Militaris (80 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lord_Johnathan said:

Dumbledore facing upwards of two million orcs and a million assorted auxillaries (wargs, trolls, evil men, giant bats, etc)? Are you insane?!? They could throw rocks at him and they'd still kill him! If he could cast Avada kevada once every second, he'd need 69 days with no breaks for breathing, eating, sleeping, drinking, resting to combat fatigue, or going to the bathroom, and assuming he doesn't have to chase down the army in front of him to kill them all!

Bit off topic now, but I highly doubt Sauron could field a army of over 2,000,000, He probably had less then 250,000 spread across all of the battles.

#12 Posted by Lord_Johnathan (3216 posts) - - Show Bio

@Militaris said:

@Lord_Johnathan said:

Dumbledore facing upwards of two million orcs and a million assorted auxillaries (wargs, trolls, evil men, giant bats, etc)? Are you insane?!? They could throw rocks at him and they'd still kill him! If he could cast Avada kevada once every second, he'd need 69 days with no breaks for breathing, eating, sleeping, drinking, resting to combat fatigue, or going to the bathroom, and assuming he doesn't have to chase down the army in front of him to kill them all!

Bit off topic now, but I highly doubt Sauron could field a army of over 2,000,000, He probably had less then 250,000 spread across all of the battles.

Those are upward calculations. The more standard figure is that for the book, and over twice that for the movie.

#13 Edited by ToO_RaW (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

This was a weakened Dumbledore. He crisps every orc to ever exist in 15 seconds.

#14 Posted by Storm Calling (3542 posts) - - Show Bio

@ToO_RaW said:

This was a weakened Dumbledore. He crisps every orc to ever exist in 15 seconds.

Thank you!

#15 Posted by Kovak (748 posts) - - Show Bio

@ToO_RaW said:

This was a weakened Dumbledore. He crisps every orc to ever exist in 15 seconds.

Whilst he's doing that for about what, 10 feet around himself, he gets one shot with an arrow from a hundred meters away.

#16 Posted by ToO_RaW (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

It was much, much more than 10ft. The entire cave was encompassed in flame as you could see when he cleared a path to safety. It's not in that clip, but it's in the movie.

#17 Edited by Storm Calling (3542 posts) - - Show Bio

@Agent9149 said:

Dumbledore can't take on a whole army by himself. He would get tired. Plus there would be arrows and projectiles, dragons, and cannon fodder being thrown at him every second. He will not make it.

Piertotum Locomotor & Protego Maxima Fianto Duri Repello Inimicum

Starts @1:40

Can defend against an ENTIRE army.

#18 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (16128 posts) - - Show Bio

@Storm Calling: Dude, one Balrog is enough to solo that army.

#19 Posted by Xanni15 (6758 posts) - - Show Bio

DD takes this easily.

#20 Posted by ascenscion (102 posts) - - Show Bio

Dumbledore gets minced by the entire army, not even an issue. I'd say maximum he could do is maybe a couple of hundred. Not even a Jedi master could take more than that; no human with normal resilience can take on huge numbers of enemies, there's just too much margin for error. Dumbledore could easily get damaged by projectiles, a random attack, fatigue.

#21 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (1989 posts) - - Show Bio

@ascenscion said:

Dumbledore gets minced by the entire army, not even an issue. I'd say maximum he could do is maybe a couple of hundred. Not even a Jedi master could take more than that; no human with normal resilience can take on huge numbers of enemies, there's just too much margin for error. Dumbledore could easily get damaged by projectiles, a random attack, fatigue.

Multiple Jedi masters would blitz the army. Obi-Wan, Kit Fisto, Yoda, Mace Windu, etc.

Plus, this is 100 orcs, read the OP!

#22 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (1989 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump.

Do people think Dumbledore is too weak to win? He could use transfiguration to render their attacks useless. For example, let's say they fire down rain of arrows, he uses Arrows to Dust transfiguration shield. Then he hits the army with Expelliarmous to disarm them, then he wets them with Water, freezes them in ice solid, etc.

#23 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (16128 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman with prep solos