Rules:
- Both sides got 1 minute of prep
- Iron Fist was allowed to use chi
- Wesker at his strongest mutation
- Start out 20 ft apart
- Moral off
- Bloodlust mode on
- No equipment
- No prior knowledge of each other
- No BFR
- Wins by death or knock-out
Fight takes place in this Dojo (image below)
He is far slower, show me him having consistent FTE speed even to fodders,
Why is being FTE to featless fodder supposed to be impressive? It's something virtually any mid to high street leveler can do.
oh and i would love if it is not some outlier from 40 years ago but something recent, and he is weaker without Iron FIst as well
An outlier would be something inconsistent. Danny bullet timing and dodging is consistent so the age of the showing should matter little.
Thing is Wesker is FTE to supersonic characters effortlessly while toying
The thing is Iron Fist has already managed to keep, tag and beat people who can slice bullets from automatic guns. Like Gorgon and Mister X.
when did he consistently dodge them at point-blank range?
This is bullet timing on a point-blank range
This is catching a bullet whilst standing 2 feet away from the gun
And bullet timing is prety overrated, it really does not compare to Wesker kind of effortless FTE speed while walking
Yea because Wesker is definitely going to be able to be FTE someone who can catch bullets mid air.
even if he did that to fodders it would be impresive, let alone to Captain America level chracters and above(Cap has matched Iron Fist in speed )
>Doesn't want to me to use classic showings
>Uses a classic showing to prove a point
Maybe in mids of fanboys but actually iron fist or moon knight would easily get blitzed,
Blitzing fodder =/= blitzing people who can slice and catch bullets mid air.
you are extremly underestimating Wesker,
I'm not underestimating anyone. Being FTE to fodder is something virtually any half decent street leveler can do. Batman, Elektra, Daredevil, Moon Knight, Nightwing, Red Hood, Cassandra Cain and on and on.
even Spdierman has blitzed Deardevil who is faster than moon knight and
And that's supposed to prove what? Peter can blitz Matt and Marc because he's hilariously faster than them in terms both combat and reaction speed.
Jarsho( spiderman expert) said he is slower than Wesker
Opinion =/= Fact.
I think that he can, you said yourself that Matt is not bullet timer so you believe bullet can blitz him ,
I don't think Chris, Leon, etc. are bullet timers either. I have a more moderate view when it comes to most characters than the majority of the vine. I'm also much pickier with feats than most.
Wesker is faster than Peter and honestly, Spiderman speed is prety overrated, people act like he is some speedster,
Faster in what way? As I said I think spider-man has him beat in reactions and reflexes. Wesker is faster in movement speed but that doesn't mean he would beat spider-man. I don't even think the gap is big.
I'm not going to bother about the metal gear stuff. Its not relevant here.
Sure Peter has faster reflexes becase of spider senses but combat speed is what really matters in the fight, not precog, reflexes only matter when somone shots something at you or attacks you,
Reflexes and reactions tie into combat speed. Peter is faster in combat overall because the movement gap between peter and wesker is pretty small but Peter's reactions are far better due to spider-sense and his reflexes are also considerably better.
Even when Wesker was blitzing Chris on the plane, Chris did out react Wesker which shows that his reflexes and reactions don't correlate to his overall movement speed. Yea wesker was weakened but that is besides my point. When it comes to reflexes and reactions Wesker doesn't have feats like this:
and Wesker does not really move in short bursts, he simply chooses to stop there but he can move his arms at FTE speed just as easily ( i can show you if you want)
Can you show me using cut scenes from the game or are we using some composite version of Wesker?
and he has speed blitzed Chris punching him few times so fast that Jill( who is comperable to Chris or faster than him ) could not see or react to him punching Chris and did not have time to even try to aim and shot Wesker, and she was standing few meters in front of him, just becase we can see Wesker does not mean chracters can, that is called cinematic timing,
OK. I think spider-man can blitz Chris as well.
we here can see Sherlock Holmes move normally but he is moving like speedster and making almost evrey street leveler look like snail
- Defeats few armed opponents before apple falls on the ground
I mean Cass did the same thing with a bottle instead and more guys.
guy threw apple in the air and then sherlock started moving, he casually got up , stomped 3 guys while casually moving, making pauses and resting, then casually sit there and disarmed another thug and only then he cuaght apple, all this happened in his fight before apple could cross any merciful distance, in his perception this was 11 seconds while in real-time it was less than half-second, that is speed that makes Captian America look like snail
Captain America sees bullets in mid flight. So no. Hell your talking about FTE speed but Cap's done that before.
or even beter example we could see Goku when he punched Nappa but Nappa did not, using this logic Goku is only fast in short bursts( when he moves at FTE and we do not see him ) but when he punches we see him so he is slow
Yea Goku is fast.
Here he looks like he punches only a few times in second and Solid Snake had an entire fight in less than a -second so Solid Snake > Goku, i mean just no
Yea that was never my logic for Wesker having inferior combat speed to spider-man.
Wesker is fast enough to run from one side of a room, grab a little girl who was standing at the other side right next to Chris and Jill, then drag her all the way back to where he was standing, all not only faster than they could react or see , but before they even realized what happened until it was too late.
I am mostly talking about wesker from the games but reading these pages again I just realized Chris and Jill's attention wavered to the girls when she walked in. We already know wesker can blitz Chris with his movement speed so this doesn't show what you think it shows even.
Just a few pages earlier, Chris was easily reacting to Hunters who were moving fast enough to appear as an abstract blur
If Chris and Jill cannot react to toying Wesker, Iron FIst cannot as well since he is not faster then them but is in fact slower by prety decent amount i am afraid
Really? The guy who catches point blank bullets after there fired is slower than Chris Redfield?
Wesker also has a very big advantage in combat speed which is what matters in a fight and no Iron Fist does not have beter reflexes,
Why doesn't he have better reflexes? He's caught bullets multiple times, and fought at speeds faster than the eye even while underwater.
Wesker can move his entire body out of bullets and dodge them just as easily, even fodders( to Wesker) like Chris have comperable or beter reactions than Iron Fist
Iron fist is a bullet timer.
Then here Wesker was easily blitzing Chris, covering the distance to him, then throwing several punches faster than he could react.
In that same comic, Chris was keeping up with two supersonic Hunters at the same time who were once again moving as abstract blurs and esily reacting to the point-blank shotgun fire
Proof Hunters are super sonic?
Its his combat speed, not movement speed, runing in a straight line is movment speed and yes it is a very big deal and how they are telegraphed?
I don't know what to tell you. They are straight line blitzes. Wesker stops and goes. Just look at his movements.
There is an interval between his movements here. And again on the plane when Wesker was weakened we also see another interval:
they are not, he does not move in a linear direction and he alredy blitzed Chris and Jill before they can do anything while toying with them and both are just as fast as Danny and probably faster, I mena i can just as esily say Danny speed is telegraphed
You say Danny's speed is telegraphed but it wouldn't be true.
And Wesker hits harder without Iron Fist( easily punching thrugh Chris and his bulleptroof armor like if it was air and he can tank RPG missiles) which is what matters becase he will blitz Danny and dance around him
Why does this matter? Who says Danny doesn't have the iron fist? And I don't even really agree with this. Without the iron fist Danny has sliced down telephone poles....
We've seen cars crash into telephone poles and when a car is damaged they don't always knock down telephone poles. Yet iron fist took a telephone pole down casually....With no iron fist.
Fair enaugh for Cap but Danny like Logan has literally 1 FTE speed feat in decades of history that is an outlier,
I know of other FTE speed feats for Danny and people of his tier all have several faster than the eye feats. FTE is pretty average for most high end street levelers.
Wesker has multiple feats in evrey game he is in, this would be like me arguing MCU Cap is city blockbuster becase he once hurt Loki who no solled city block level exsplosion or he is 10 000 toner becase he made Thanos struggle, for chracter that old yes that is prety inconsistent
Danny is blur yes but FTE speed for him is not consistent and i disagree about Danny beating Wesker, spiderman is debetable but I still think Wesker wins
I did not mean to offend you but you did say Wesker is faster but peter agility can lessen speed gap
I just felt you were taking my words out of context. I don't take offense.
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