Aizen's army vs Madara's army

#1 Posted by nishi99 (306 posts) - 6 months, 13 hours ago - Show Bio

Sosuke Aizen

Gin Ichimaru

Kaname Tousen

Wonderweiss Margela accompanied by Hooleer

The Espada

0 Yammy Liargo

1st Coyote Starrk

2nd Baraggan Louisenbairn

3rd Tier Harribel

4th Ulquiorra Cifer

5th Nnoitra Gilga

6th Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez and Temporary Luppi Antenor

7th Zommari Rureaux

8th Szayelaporro Granz

9th Aaroniero Arruruerie

Privaron Espada

Dordoni Alessandro Del Socaccio

Cirucci Sanderwicci

Gantenbainne Mosqueda

Números

Aisslinger Wernarr

Demoura Zodd

Loly Aivirrne

Menoly Mallia

One Thousand Menos

vs

Edo Madara Uchiha

Ten Tailed Beast

Obito Uchiha

Kabuto Yakushi

The Akatsuki

Edo Nagato Uzumaki

Edo Itachi Uchiha

Edo Deidara

Edo Sasori

Edo Kakuzu

Kisame Hoshigaki

Konan

Zetsu

Hiden

Sasuke Uchiha

Suigetsu Hōzuki

Jugo

Karin

White Zetsu Army Ten Thousand

Aizen finds out that unknown army is going to attack Los Noches he has one hour to get everybody together for a meeting.

Madara has been planning to take over Hueco Mundo for about a week.but does not know much about the powers of Aizen and his army.

Setting Los Noches

#2 Posted by nishi99 (306 posts) - 5 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

bump

#3 Posted by PlasticBag (1222 posts) - 5 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

Madaras for sure. Ten Tails would uberstomp most of Aizens army.

#4 Posted by HAVICKGREEN (97 posts) - 5 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

madaras buump

#5 Posted by SpideyPresence (1667 posts) - 5 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@PlasticBag said:

Madaras for sure. Ten Tails would uberstomp most of Aizens army.

Far from a stomp.

#6 Posted by PlasticBag (1222 posts) - 5 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@SpideyPresence: I think the Ten Tails could stomp most of the Arrancars.

#7 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1871 posts) - 5 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

Aizen Solos. He could Kyouka Suigetsu everyone in Madara's army and make them fight each other. And the Arrancars are stronger in general than the majority of Madara's.

#8 Posted by Arnoboy (7 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Too many espadas are too weak to stand a chance. Madara, Itachi, ten tailed beast and Hidan ( they wouldn't know how to deal with him) should be enough.

#9 Posted by xlab3000 (980 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Madara's army wins w/ Edotensei Aizen's Army wins w/o Edotensei

#10 Posted by terry2012 (4613 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Aizen army wins. Most of Madara army can not even see Aizen Army. Gin can attack them from the distant.

#11 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (2766 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

I don't see how they are going to counter Barragan's ability. He can just sit there and respira the whole edo tensai army. They wouldn't be able to regenerate if they are constantly decaying. Also Bleach characters are too fast to be hit by many of the ninjas. The 10 tail beast has a lot of power but his attack can be evaded or even blocked. Most of the Edo Tensai characters lack the necessary fire power to even do anything to the arancaar.

#12 Posted by Oni_Bane (773 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

What? No Zabuza.

*walks away utterly disappointed*

#13 Posted by Viltsu300 (14 posts) - 4 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

Aizen army

#14 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (4574 posts) - 4 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@nishi99: As Discussed on the Anime vice,

Juubi is the reason Madara's Army wins, according to what we've heard of it. I don't see even Aizen doing anything to it.

@UltimateHero0406 said:

Aizen Solos. He could Kyouka Suigetsu everyone in Madara's army and make them fight each other. And the Arrancars are stronger in general than the majority of Madara's.

What if the sharingan sees through it? Isn't sharingan a nearly automatic counter to illusion? Team Madara has Itachi on their side. He has that shisui's Eye Jutsu as well. What if he uses it to put Aizen in Full control? (A command like: Fight by Madara's side against your own army) Wouldn't aizen solo his team? You're underestimating team M a bit Imo. They have as good hax abilities as any character.

#15 Posted by KnightRise (3701 posts) - 4 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

But the Edo ressurected are unkillable, and team Aizen doesn't have sealing techniques, does it?

#16 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1871 posts) - 4 months, 24 days ago - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1: The Sharigan only sees through Genjutsu because it sees and controls chakra and can create genjutsu itself, not all illusions. KS has no effect on chakra.

#17 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (4574 posts) - 4 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@PrinceAragorn1: The Sharigan only sees through Genjutsu because it sees and controls chakra and can create genjutsu itself, not all illusions.

Any scans? I mean, doesn't Genjutsu mean "illusionary techniques" literally? I am not an expert on Japanese, but heard it in many other subbed animes (I noted it many times, but I'll give you link when I remember one exact instance.) Not like Genjutsu means: "illusionary techniques created by controlling chakra"

#18 Posted by Viltsu300 (14 posts) - 4 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

One Thousand Menos... Aizen army owns...

#19 Edited by D3athstroke (3657 posts) - 4 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

Aizen solos

Tousen solos

Gin solos

Yammi solos

Stark solos

Baragan can just basically stand there and Madaras army will die

just chose any of them

#20 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (4574 posts) - 4 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Viltsu300: Well menos were awesome at first. But then they were taken down pretty easy by vizards and captains so I lost a lot of respect fr them.

#21 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1871 posts) - 4 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1 said:

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@PrinceAragorn1: The Sharigan only sees through Genjutsu because it sees and controls chakra and can create genjutsu itself, not all illusions.

Any scans? I mean, doesn't Genjutsu mean "illusionary techniques" literally? I am not an expert on Japanese, but heard it in many other subbed animes (I noted it many times, but I'll give you link when I remember one exact instance.) Not like Genjutsu means: "illusionary techniques created by controlling chakra"

Genjutsu is done by manipulating chakra flow in the target's head to make them see and fell what you wantg. Breaking Genjutsu is the same process. The person with Sharingan can see the chakra flow within themselves once it is messed up and correct it. The only way to break it is to either use sharingan or send a large jolt of chakra through your body to mess up the attacker's controll over you. The thing is, KS has absolutely no effect on Chakra. It Targets the 5 senses directly and manipulates them. There is no way a sharingan can help if chakra is not involved.

#22 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1871 posts) - 4 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@Viltsu300 said:

One Thousand Menos... Aizen army owns...

Yup. It would take about 50-100 White Zetsu to bring one down.

#23 Posted by Dredeuced (2896 posts) - 4 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

A non-jobbing Aizen solos. He is literally unkillable with the Hogyoku, it grants his wish, and he can completely pacify literally any enemy with his broke ass Shikai by just showing them his sword. No one on team Madara has the sheer destructive force to threaten Aizen once his illusion is up (as the only thing he was ever worried about was Yamamoto scorching the entire world and killing anything that exists).

#24 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (4574 posts) - 4 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@PrinceAragorn1 said:

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@PrinceAragorn1: The Sharigan only sees through Genjutsu because it sees and controls chakra and can create genjutsu itself, not all illusions.

Any scans? I mean, doesn't Genjutsu mean "illusionary techniques" literally? I am not an expert on Japanese, but heard it in many other subbed animes (I noted it many times, but I'll give you link when I remember one exact instance.) Not like Genjutsu means: "illusionary techniques created by controlling chakra"

. The person with Sharingan can see the chakra flow within themselves once it is messed up and correct it. The only way to break it is to either use sharingan or send a large jolt of chakra through your body to mess up the attacker's controll over you. There is no way a sharingan can help if chakra is not involved.

Where was this said?

#25 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (4574 posts) - 4 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@D3athstroke said:

Aizen solos

Tousen solos

Gin solos

Yammi solos

Stark solos

Baragan can just basically stand there and Madaras army will die

just chose any of them

With the 10 tails on one side and aizen on other, I doubt any one person on any one team is soloing here.@Dredeuced said:

A non-jobbing Aizen solos. He is literally unkillable with the Hogyoku, it grants his wish, and he can completely pacify literally any enemy with his broke ass Shikai by just showing them his sword. No one on team Madara has the sheer destructive force to threaten Aizen once his illusion is up (as the only thing he was ever worried about was Yamamoto scorching the entire world and killing anything that exists).

Wow, how about ichigo's final Gt? He looked a little worried, didn't he?

And what if he is taken under control by shisui's eye? or itachi puts him in a genjutsu before he does anything, like he did to deidara?

#26 Edited by Dredeuced (2896 posts) - 4 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

Welcome to shonen manga, where the hero beats an absurdly powerful villain because the villain is a jobber. Aizen wins if you look at him and he's holding his sword out. He never showed his sword to Ichigo because it was EXPRESSLY HIS IDEA for Ichigo to get as strong as he could to fight him and push him. Ichigo's final getsuga didn't even beat him, it actually started up further evolution, he just got magically sealed by Deus Ex Urahara. Aizen literally has a little ball in his gut that grants his wish and is only countered by being weakened and then having the guy who made said ball seal him and it.

Shisui's eye is literally inside Naruto from waaay earlier on in the series, and/or in Danzo's head (which he also seals up when he dies). The Mangekyo Sharingan Genjutsus have only been stated to work when someone looks into their eyes or a reflection of their eyes, which is a much more binding and hard to pull off requirement than "look at sword". Aizen hypnotizes literally everyone as fast as he did Barrigan (Where he unsheathed his sword and Barrigan was instantly under unconditional hypnosis) and wins. Unless Aizen is explicitly jobbing because its in his plan for that to happen, he wipes the floor with everyone.

The only problem Aizen would encounter is that Edo Tensei zombies are immortal and regenerate from anything without being sealed specifically by ninja magic. But they're literally non-threats to him and he can make them beat up each other for eternity.

Gin could probably solo everything that wasn't edo tensei'd into immortality, since his sword is about half the speed of light.

#27 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1871 posts) - 4 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1 said:

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@PrinceAragorn1 said:

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@PrinceAragorn1: The Sharigan only sees through Genjutsu because it sees and controls chakra and can create genjutsu itself, not all illusions.

Any scans? I mean, doesn't Genjutsu mean "illusionary techniques" literally? I am not an expert on Japanese, but heard it in many other subbed animes (I noted it many times, but I'll give you link when I remember one exact instance.) Not like Genjutsu means: "illusionary techniques created by controlling chakra"

. The person with Sharingan can see the chakra flow within themselves once it is messed up and correct it. The only way to break it is to either use sharingan or send a large jolt of chakra through your body to mess up the attacker's controll over you. There is no way a sharingan can help if chakra is not involved.

Where was this said?

In the fact that that is how Genjutsu and Sharingan works. Genjutsu is controlling chakra and Shringan is the power to see the chakra disruption. No Chakra disruption and the Shingan cannot help. Sharingan cannot see past KS since there will be nothing wrong with the victim's chakra if they get caught.

#28 Posted by FourthDeity (2223 posts) - 4 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

@PlasticBag said:

Madaras for sure. Ten Tails would uberstomp most of Aizens army.

#29 Posted by afueikawa (645 posts) - 4 months, 22 days ago - Show Bio

@KnightRise said:

But the Edo ressurected are unkillable, and team Aizen doesn't have sealing techniques, does it?

This answers it all. If Aizen's army kills kabuto, that would be more problematic LOL.

Have Oruchimaro on Aizen's team and I may change my opinion.

#30 Posted by YoungChief (300 posts) - 4 months, 22 days ago - Show Bio

@D3athstroke: The Edo Tensei won't allow them to die. Also they have the Juubi which is said to have birthed the earth itself, I think you're greatly underestimating them. Aizen can't use his Kyoka Suigetsu by the way, he has to show them it's release first and I really don't think they'll just stand there and let that happen, especially not if Madara is there

#31 Posted by D3athstroke (3657 posts) - 4 months, 22 days ago - Show Bio
@YoungChief
No edo tensei bounds souls to bodies and the bodies can't be killed because of that 

Everyone from bleach can kill souls so that not going to work here 
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