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#1 Posted by generator2000 (1045 posts) - - Show Bio

Since Ahsoka Tano vs Starkiller isn't fair, I decided to throw Anakin in the mix.

Anakin is about as powerful as he was during the Clone Wars series (his prime) and Ahsoka is at her best.

Starkiller is at his best (his prime, A.K.A the first game). This is a random encounter on Coruscant.

Explain your reasoning. Say why you think one character would beat another.

#2 Posted by AllStarSuperman (20245 posts) - - Show Bio

Ahsoka, she is awesome.

#3 Posted by generator2000 (1045 posts) - - Show Bio

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#4 Edited by ShootingNova (15666 posts) - - Show Bio

Anakin is easily the greatest duelist here, the fastest, and is significantly stronger than either of the two (or even the two together, perhaps). His TK feats exceed those of his opponents as well.

#5 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (23337 posts) - - Show Bio

Anakin is easily the greatest duelist here, the fastest, and is significantly stronger than either of the two (or even the two together, perhaps). His TK feats exceed his those of his opponents as well.

This.

Galen comes in second, Ahsoka is dead last. Though I think she may be a better duelist then Marek and maybe even faster by feats.

#6 Edited by laflux (14299 posts) - - Show Bio

@shootingnova said:

Anakin is easily the greatest duelist here, the fastest, and is significantly stronger than either of the two (or even the two together, perhaps). His TK feats exceed his those of his opponents as well.

This.

Galen comes in second, Ahsoka is dead last. Though I think she may be a better duelist then Marek and maybe even faster by feats.

#7 Posted by generator2000 (1045 posts) - - Show Bio

Anakin is a much better duelist, but I think Galen has the most force power. depending on the circumstances, Galen or Anakin would victor.

#8 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (23337 posts) - - Show Bio

Anakin is a much better duelist, but I think Galen has the most force power. depending on the circumstances, Galen or Anakin would victor.

How? Anakin's Telekinetic far supersedes Galen's and Force Lighting won't be much of a problem either.

#9 Posted by JasonHawke (1101 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought Galen canonically beats Anakin.

#10 Edited by RogueShadow (10036 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol. Ashoka gets trashed. Galen loses to Anakin, the only thing he has comparable to Anakin is his tk in my opinion, and Anakin edges him out there too. Also, I'd say Anakin's prime was ROTS pre Vader.

#11 Posted by generator2000 (1045 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011: I've seen proof that Anakin is powerful, but nothing that tells me that he is more powerful than Starkiller, per-say. I've seen him move large objects, comparable to some of the things that Galen has moved, but the Star Destroyer thing has me convinced that Starkiller has more raw force power than Anakin. In a duel, Anakin is a better fighter, therefore he'd win, but depending on the circumstances, either could win.

#12 Posted by ElderStarlord117 (243 posts) - - Show Bio

@jasonhawke: Where on Earth did you read that? Galen canonically stands a chance against Darth Vader (major PIS, in my opinion), but Anakin was severely debuffed after what happened on Mustafar. Standing a chance against Vader and standing a chance against Anakin are two very different things. Galen is pure cannon fodder to pre-Vader Anakin.

This is almost a mismatch. Even if you changed this to Anakin vs. Galen and Ahsoka, Anakin'd still win.

#13 Posted by RetconCrisis (3378 posts) - - Show Bio

Anakin wins swiftly. He has the best skills in lightsaber combat and is the most agile.

#14 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3482 posts) - - Show Bio

Does Star Wars have a "what if" series? Like what if Anakin wasn't deep fried?

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#15 Posted by Wolfrazer (6104 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanwithatan01: They do have Infinities yes, though they just center around the 3 Original movies. There is no What If story if Anakin never got cut apart...that would be interesting though.

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#17 Posted by reikai (4109 posts) - - Show Bio

Galen Marek kills them both viciously. Galen beat Vader. Twice. And Vader is Anakin with more experience and fewer morals.

#18 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (23337 posts) - - Show Bio

@reikai said:

Galen Marek kills them both viciously. Galen beat Vader. Twice. And Vader is Anakin with more experience and fewer morals.

Despite the fact that Anakin is superior to Vader as in strength in the Force, speed and is arguably a better duelist I fail to see how that translate here.

Not to mention it was stated several times in the novel Galen performed well against Vader because he was very familiar with Vader's dueling style, an advantage he won't have here (Anakin was primarily a Djem So user, while Vader used an off-shoot Djem So form while incorporating other dueling forms with it) Other then that Galen struggled to even beat Shaak Ti and Rahm Kota

Not to mentioned Vader was not even in his prime during TFU, he didn't reach that until ROTJ and sources have stated Vader as being "a shell of his former self" during ANH.

Edit: His second "win" against Vader is very circumstantial.

Galen get's beat by Anakin very handily.

#19 Edited by JasonHawke (1101 posts) - - Show Bio

@jasonhawke: Where on Earth did you read that? Galen canonically stands a chance against Darth Vader (major PIS, in my opinion), but Anakin was severely debuffed after what happened on Mustafar. Standing a chance against Vader and standing a chance against Anakin are two very different things. Galen is pure cannon fodder to pre-Vader Anakin.

This is almost a mismatch. Even if you changed this to Anakin vs. Galen and Ahsoka, Anakin'd still win.

Still, Galen wins.

STARKILLER!!

#20 Posted by reikai (4109 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011: Incorrect. Anakin only had greater "potential" strength. Potential is meaningless if you never achieve it and Vader has better feats than Anakin. Anakin gets steamrolled.

#21 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (23337 posts) - - Show Bio

@reikai:

Incorrect. Anakin only had greater "potential" strength.

No by feats Anakin actually was better.

Potential is meaningless if you never achieve it and Vader has better feats than Anakin. Anakin gets steamrolled.

How? Vader's best TK feat is destroying a Cathedral, crushing flying Tie fighters, hurling hips, crushing giants droids and so on, while Anakin's best TK feat is probably moving a droid landing platform as a padawan while showing little restraint:

He has also pushed escape pod into star:

Telekinetic manipulated hundreds of droids:

He has also supported collapsed ceilings, moved massive builders, thrown trees, teleketicly manipulating missiles, Force pushing Dooku across a room, telekineticly defeated Ventress and so on. Anakin TK feats supersedes Vader's imo.

As for speed Anakin has deflected blaster bolts from an entire armies of droids, covered himself in light, has reacted at sub-light speeds, reacted in milleseconds, moved so fast he appeared to be every were at once, saw incredibly fast things in slow motion, wrecked an army of droids;etc. Again, Anakin's speed supersedes Vader's.

Vader wouldn't beat Anakin and neither does Galen.

#22 Posted by ElderStarlord117 (243 posts) - - Show Bio

@elderstarlord117 said:

@jasonhawke: Where on Earth did you read that? Galen canonically stands a chance against Darth Vader (major PIS, in my opinion), but Anakin was severely debuffed after what happened on Mustafar. Standing a chance against Vader and standing a chance against Anakin are two very different things. Galen is pure cannon fodder to pre-Vader Anakin.

This is almost a mismatch. Even if you changed this to Anakin vs. Galen and Ahsoka, Anakin'd still win.

Still, Galen wins.

STARKILLER!!


/sigh

@reikai said:

Galen Marek kills them both viciously. Galen beat Vader. Twice. And Vader is Anakin with more experience and fewer morals.

/sigh

#23 Posted by JediXMan (29664 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate that this thread exists.

#24 Posted by ShootingNova (15666 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011: I'm not sure why you are enjoying your time with him when we agreed not to? I see the temptation since you don't want the public to be misinformed, but still. Why bother? LOL.

And Anakin telekinetically moving a Conqueror-class Dreadnaught indicates Vader does not surpass him telekinetically. Vader wasn't in his prime when Galen defeated him anyways.

#25 Posted by reikai (4109 posts) - - Show Bio

@shootingnova: Yes and Galen was in the top of his game after steering an ISD with TK as it was breaking up in atmosphere enroute to the Kamino cloning facility. Managing to get off, hop a ride on a fighter, then make his way through the complex and be forced to kill his insane, rabid, incomplete clones, before Vader came down to try and kill him, after having his armor upgraded with better insulation against electrical shocks.

Anakin was knocked around by people with far less feats than himself. He's an emo tool that gets used and beaten. And Galen silences that whiny brat for good.

#26 Posted by laflux (14299 posts) - - Show Bio

@jedixman said:

I hate that this thread exists.

Lol I forgot that you didn't like Tano and Starkiller :P

#27 Posted by halovsmarvel (99 posts) - - Show Bio

Starkiller proves he is the best here. Starkiller vs Anakin in his prime would be a good fight and I believe that Anakin is the better swordsman, but Starkiller is almost as good and has higher TK feats along with the ability to use force lightning which puts him above Anakin and Ahsoka.

#28 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (23337 posts) - - Show Bio

@reikai:

Yes and Galen was in the top of his game after steering an ISD with TK as it was breaking up in atmosphere enroute to the Kamino cloning facility.

That's not as impressive as a Padawan Anakin who was far from his prime moving an Conqueror-class Dreadnaught while it was resisting and full of battle droids.

Nice try though no, actually, it wasn't. ^_____^

Managing to get off, hop a ride on a fighter, then make his way through the complex and be forced to kill his insane, rabid, incomplete clones,

Featless clones huh?

before Vader came down to try and kill him, after having his armor upgraded with better insulation against electrical shocks.

Did you read the novel? Galen's win over Vader was circumstantial in TFU II. In fact Vader was winning, Galen hit an unsuspected Vader (Vader let his guard down because he thought Galen was surrendering and he was not trying to kill Galen) so Galen hit Vader with Force Lightning in the same spot Juno damaged when she sliced him with a lightsaber. That was nowhere near as impressive as you and other Galen supporters make it seems.

Anakin was knocked around by people with far less feats than himself. He's an emo tool that gets used and beaten.

LOL. Nice attempt at red-herring. Galen has had problems with Rahm Kota and Proxy, who were both LOL stomped by Boba Fett. Galen has had trouble with Shaak Ti, a Jedi, who is quite frankly not impressive.

While Anakin has beaten Dooku, Durge, Ventress,was stated to be superior to Obi-Wan, was stated by Mace himself to be more powerful then him;etc.

And Galen silences that whiny brat for good.

In your bias mind, yes. In canon Anakin destroys the continuity destroying Mary Sue.

#29 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (23337 posts) - - Show Bio

@dccomicsrule2011: I'm not sure why you are enjoying your time with him when we agreed not to? I see the temptation since you don't want the public to be misinformed, but still. Why bother? LOL.

And Anakin telekinetically moving a Conqueror-class Dreadnaught indicates Vader does not surpass him telekinetically. Vader wasn't in his prime when Galen defeated him anyways.

I shouldn't but honestly, the temptation is just to strong today.

#30 Posted by ShootingNova (15666 posts) - - Show Bio

Not sure why people are still saying Galen has better TK feats than Anakin. This is why I don't want to post on Galen threads....

#31 Posted by Wolfrazer (6104 posts) - - Show Bio

@shootingnova: CAUSE HE MOVED A STAR DESTROYER BRO! RADA RADA RADA, HE HS MOAR POWERFULZ DEN ANAKIN/VADER/YODA/SIDIOUS! Blah, blah, blah, you get the picture.

#32 Edited by Earthquake_2123 (467 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolfrazer: lol jeez. The amount misinformed Starkiller fanboys could fill Yankee stadium.

#33 Posted by ShootingNova (15666 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolfrazer: lol jeez. The amount misinformed Starkiller fanboys could fill Yankee stadium.

You know he was joking right?

#34 Edited by ElderStarlord117 (243 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh my gosh... I just realized this... Starkiller is the Goku of the Star Wars universe. Everyone, especially the uninformed, blindly say he beats everyone because he "moovd a str distroyr". Maybe, like Goku, he should be banned from the forums...

#35 Posted by JediXMan (29664 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe, like Goku, he should be banned from the forums...

HEAR, HEAR!

I AM ON BOARD WITH THIS!

...
*ahem* This would be nice...

#36 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (11829 posts) - - Show Bio

Hahaha...man, this thread is funny as hell

#37 Posted by AllStarSuperman (20245 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh my gosh... I just realized this... Starkiller is the Goku of the Star Wars universe. Everyone, especially the uninformed, blindly say he beats everyone because he "moovd a str distroyr". Maybe, like Goku, he should be banned from the forums...

@jedixman said:
@elderstarlord117 said:

Maybe, like Goku, he should be banned from the forums...

HEAR, HEAR!

I AM ON BOARD WITH THIS!

...

*ahem* This would be nice...

I dont know a lot about star wars, but from comic vine wouldnt Revan be the Goku, not Starkiller?

#38 Posted by ShootingNova (15666 posts) - - Show Bio
#39 Posted by AllStarSuperman (20245 posts) - - Show Bio
#40 Posted by ShootingNova (15666 posts) - - Show Bio
#41 Posted by fiodestromus (973 posts) - - Show Bio

@generator2000: are we talking about the cartoon/game versions or comic eu versions

#42 Edited by ElderStarlord117 (243 posts) - - Show Bio

@allstarsuperman: @shootingnova: Revan is overrated, but not nearly as much as Galen. I've seen people pair Starkiller up with Hulk, Superman, Luke Skywalker, Sidious, Wonder Woman, etc. and think that Starkiller stood a chance. -___-

Revan just has a bunch of fanboys (Revanchists).

Y'know, to everyone that thinks Starkiller is truly impressive, y'all need to read comics and books set in the NJO era. They make Galen looks like a baby with an AK-47.

#43 Posted by ShootingNova (15666 posts) - - Show Bio

@elderstarlord117: The Revanchists are a faction of Jedi Knights in the Star Wars universe, but in real life they also refer to political people dedicated to reverse territorial losses.

As far as Revan's fans go, people say he is more powerful than NJO Luke, DE Palpatine, Plagueis, Superman, etc. It's ridiculous.

#44 Edited by ElderStarlord117 (243 posts) - - Show Bio

@shootingnova: I know who the Revanchists are... I was making a joke...

And that used to be the case. Ever since Knights of the Old Republic (honestly an amazing game) and really the whole Old Republic era became popular, everyone assumed that he was the most powerful Jedi/Sith to ever have existed. But it's gotten a lot better in recent times, imo. Galen's grasp on the unknowledgeable doesn't seem to be loosening. Like, I can understand the Revan fanboyism. He's got a good story. Galen, however? Those games were terrible. Coming from a die-hard Star Wars fan and gamer, they were bad. The story sucked and the gameplay got old. Just... why the unnecessary love?

Oh, and since when is TFU canon? I thought it was non canon for the longest time. Sorry, hoping it was non canon for the longest time.

#45 Edited by ShootingNova (15666 posts) - - Show Bio

@elderstarlord117: And I honestly didn't even know which Revanchists you were talking about. LOL.

People assumed Old Republic Sith Lords were the most powerful ones, and stuff. Galen has fans because his powers look flashy.

And yes, the two abominable games are canon.

#46 Posted by ElderStarlord117 (243 posts) - - Show Bio

And yes, the two abominable games are canon.

#47 Edited by generator2000 (1045 posts) - - Show Bio

@fiodestromus: Everything included. All feats applicable. You can pick one or both.

@elderstarlord117: I thought the game was pretty good. The story was... ok, but unclear for a bit. Starkiller is powerful, no doubt. While his powers may be flashy, they do work. I don't think that he could beat EU Luke or Wonder Woman or anyone like that, but he could put up a fight.

@dccomicsrule2011: I have to admit, you put up a very convincing argument that actually shows what Anakin can do unlike everyone else here, but I have to ask about the comic series those scans came from. While you look at all of Anakin's best feats, you must look at his low end feats. The movies count too. For all of his power in the comics, in the movies he wasn't able to do all of that. I'm not taking a side, but just bringing things up.

Second, why mention the novels? They aren't canon in any fashion. George Lucas himself gave the game a greenlight and he worked on the game make to sure that certain characters were right and in character. Lucas Licencing reviewed the game details to make sure that they fit into canon. Saying the game isn't canon is like saying the movie isn't canon. Anytime George Lucas gets in on a project, just to make sure that certain parts are canon, I'm pretty sure that project will be canon in the Star Wars Universe.

#48 Posted by synchronized_123 (413 posts) - - Show Bio

Novel Starkiller loses. Game Starkiller probably wins.

#49 Posted by dondave (34595 posts) - - Show Bio

Anakin

#50 Posted by Penderor (1226 posts) - - Show Bio