Agents of Shield vs Avengers

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In this MCU battle, the Agents of Shield will take on the Avengers (don't worry, it's not a stomp), who will win?

Agents of Shield:

  • Coulson
  • Skye
  • Fitz
  • Simmons
  • Melinda May
  • Grant Ward
  • Bobbi Morse
  • Lance Huner
  • Alphonso "Mack" Mackenzie

Avengers:

  • Tony Stark
  • Captain America
  • Thor
  • Bruce Banner
  • Black Widow
  • Hawkeye

For this battle, Thor is depowered (like he was in Thor 1). Bruce Banner cannot turn into the Hulk. Tony does not have any armor

With the exceptions of Thor and Tony, standard gear for all others.

Fight takes place in the streets of New York City. There are no bystanders. Starting distance is 50 feet

All are in character. Victory by ko or death

Who will win?

Bonus Round:

For this round, Tony has the improvised gear he used when infiltrating the Mandarin's compound in IM3

Same conditions otherwise

Who wins?

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#2  Edited By Arcus1
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FitzSimmons and Bruce are dead weight.

Other than that, Avengers easily. Assuming everyone is willing to fight (i.e. no hero worship from Coulson), Steve by himself won't have a problem wasting a majority of them. With Natasha and Thor for assistance up close and Clint raining hell from behind, Bruce and Tony can just chill.

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Skye could solo under these conditions.

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Skye solos. Take her out and Cap probably solos

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I don't watch AoS.

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@mtuske said:

Skye could solo under these conditions.

Skye solos. Take her out and Cap probably solos

She still doesn't have much control over her powers. I doubt she'd use them since she's in character, and they'd be as big a danger to her team as the Avengers.

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#9  Edited By Thor-Parker

Captain America solos

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#10  Edited By mtuske

@stormdriven: If she's being attacked she'd use them as show in a previous episode. She leveled a whole forest and caused an avalanche. She's very capable of soloing.

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@mtuske: She was by herself being pursued by SHIELD agents. IIRC, one of the agents fired at her. Even still, she didn't want to use her powers, and wanted them gone before she started training. She has the potential to solo once she gets better control, but until then, she isn't going to use them since she'll consider them a danger to her team.

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#12  Edited By mtuske

@stormdriven: So she's just going to let her friends die? No. She ends it quickly.

Only chance Avengers have is if Hawkeye can get a shot off before she sees it.

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@mtuske: The Avengers wouldn't kill them since they're SHIELD agents. So Skye isn't going to be leveling buildings or turning cars into shrapnel in character, since there's just as much of a possibility she hits her own team as the Avengers.

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@mtuske: Would that work? If she could control which buildings or cars I guess. But I don't think she'd be willing to kill an Avenger.

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@stormdriven: Idk. I'm pretty sure her character will end up being named Quake though.

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@spector_rand: @stormdriven: @mtuske: And that's what I forgot. Meant to have Skye depowered

Bobbi, iirc, was holding her own against a Kree who stalemated or beat Lady Sif

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@arcus: True about Bobbi, but that makes her one of the only real threats from the Agents team (besides Grant and May). Steve is still better than any of them.

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I'm pretty sure the Avengers stomp here.

L. D.

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#22  Edited By car0nshell

This is a good fight. There are so many factors but the MVP of team 1 is obv Skye and team 2 has Captain America and Black Widow.

What essentially happens is Coulson, Fitz, and Simmons may as well not even show. They get stomped. On team 2 this is the same for Tony and Bruce.

So essentially:

  • Skye
  • Melinda May
  • Grant Ward
  • Bobbi Morse
  • Lance Hunter
  • Alphonso "Mack" Mackenzie

vs

  • Captain America
  • Thor
  • Black Widow
  • Hawkeye

Agent May, Bobbi, Lance, and Alphonso are all less skilled than any one of team 2's fighters. ( even with a de-powered Thor ).

So after a decent fight the Avengers pull through without too much pain, However Skye is the wild card. Sky could essentially Solo pretty much everyone on team Avengers simultaneously.

The reason team 1 doesn't win, however, is because Skye is in character and not blood lusted. Even if she were bloodlusted her abilities are still not fully under her control

Verdict: Coulson, Fitz, and Simmons either die or get hurt very badly. Hawkeye and Tony either die or get wounded very badly.

Depowered Thor, Black widow, and Captain America are the last ones standing tall in the end.

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Unless Skye can muster enough control to take down the Avengers quickly, Cap Widow and Hawkeye will make quick work of the Agents.

Really, Skye or Cap could solo. Skye takes awhile to ramp up and pulls back once her powers get destructive, and one shield toss could take her out. From there Cap Widow and Hawkeye do work while Tony, Bruce, and Thor have shwarma.

The razor edge is Skye's ramp up time and how quickly she pulls back.

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#24  Edited By Kokemabb200

FitzSimmons and Bruce are dead weight.

Other than that, Avengers easily. Assuming everyone is willing to fight (i.e. no hero worship from Coulson), Steve by himself won't have a problem wasting a majority of them. With Natasha and Thor for assistance up close and Clint raining hell from behind, Bruce and Tony can just chill.

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Avengers

Cap+Thor=win

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@mtuske said:

Skye could solo under these conditions.

Skye isn't at all trained in her newly found power. The best she did was wipe out nearly 30 feet of trees in the forest and managed to shake a mountain, causing a small avalanche. That's it. Nothing else indicates she'd stand a chance against any of the Avengers. She doesn't have enough feats to say she could hang with Captain America, even Black Widow.

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@car0nshell: i would disagree and say Thor is less skilled than May, Mockingbird, Ward and Hunter.

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@spector_rand: Go back and watch the first Thor film. Coulson says depowered Thor was taking out his "best" agents like they were nothing.

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@urban_ninja_x: Both of those feats are clearly above anything Black Widow could do.

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#31  Edited By Urban_Ninja_X

@mtuske: You're correct, but, Skye has little formal training with her powers and is still in the process of finding out what they are and what she can do. The best she has are those two feats and no other. That means she won't be pumping out soundwaves every chance she gets, therefore leaving herself open to the more skilled Black Widow.

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#32  Edited By KingTPhil

Fights like this that depower Thor and Hulk and remove Stark's armor are stupid. The Avengers win anyway, as Cap could probably solo. Seriously tired of these threads though.

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Skey and ICER guns could likely give the AoS team the win. The ICER gun should take out Cap even if he shields it, and skye reacted to bullets with her powers.

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#34  Edited By Arcus1
@arcus said:

@spector_rand: @stormdriven: @mtuske: And that's what I forgot. Meant to have Skye depowered

Since Skye's powers seem to be the source of some good debate, I won't change the op to depower her. If she suddenly gets feats that make this one sided, then I'll change it

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#36  Edited By UFT

well having the avengers be depowered means half their team is worthless, and as good as natasha is, she can't carry her team.

what about a prep fight between stark and fitz/simmons?

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@uft said:

well having the avengers be depowered means half their team is worthless, and as good as natasha is, she can't carry her team.

what about a prep fight between stark and fitz/simmons?

The Avengers aren't all depowered-just Thor, Hulk, and IM. Cap still has his enhanced stats. There's Hakweye too. Thor also has feats while depowered

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Avengers

Any reasons?

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FitzSimmons solos with prep

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@arcus: Please tag me into your MCU and JLU-themed battles from now on.

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If Daisy has her powers then they can win this but if not it will be a shotting war.

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Quake solos

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#42  Edited By anthp2000  Moderator

Since Daisy doesn't have her powers, I'll side with the Avengers in a good fight.

FitzSimmons and Bruce are non-factors.

The secondary fighters here are interesting - Hunter, Mack and Coulson vs Tony and Thor. The AoS side has the advantage here, with a numbers advantage.

The juicy part is the top tier agents vs the street level Avengers.

I still cannot see Cap winning against either Bobbi or May 1 on 1. He's basically a skilled low level metahuman with a shield, but their weapons allow them to bypass his stats and they solidly outskill him. However, given Ward doesn't carry any other weapon I'd call stabdard other than a gun, he's not beating Cap, who's similarly skilled, far too much physically and has aim blocked high level marksmen in the Winter Soldier (Ward's probably the most skilled gun specialist other than Hawkeye in the MCU, but I doubt Steve wouldn't be able to close in for a striking majority).

Widow and Hawkeye, I'd say are the MVPs of this battle. Other than Panther (whom I do not consider street level anymore), they're the top dogs of their tier. They're almost as good as May or Bobbi up close (with every melee weapon available, Widow's probably even better), while also wielding insane tools at range. I think they could take either agent for a majority in good fights (Bobbi and May are crazy good gun specialists on their own right).

Ward I'd have below either of them quite soldily at any range, but he can give them hell too.

Overall I'd side with the Avengers due to the Strike Team DELTA. It's a very good brawl, but their average is all around better.