Agent Six vs King Bradley

Location

Unpopulated. All vehicles remain stationary.

Rules

In character

Random encounter

Standard elimination rules apply

Start 30 feet apart

Equipment

Six has his retractable swords.

Wrath has dual sabers.

Feats for Six.

@god_spawn: always amv's .... can't people just put a video behind it without some random music ........

But I give it to Six due to his insanely fast reaction speed.

@N0tS0An0nym0us: Just hit the mute button :P.

Aside from liking the video, it's a helluva lot easier posting it than a bunch of different videos for various episodes. Not to mention much quicker.

@god_spawn said:

@N0tS0An0nym0us: Just hit the mute button :P.

Aside from liking the video, it's a helluva lot easier posting it than a bunch of different videos for various episodes. Not to mention much quicker.

Yeah, but id want to hear the actual action that went on in the show along with seeing a compilation of awesome fight scenes. The music isn't bad, it just doesn't serve a purpose IMO. But yeah, mute ftw

bumps.

Six is definitely very, very fast, but I would say Bradley surpasses him in combat speed while Six seems to have faster movement speed. In a fight though I don't think that will help Six too much. Bradley is at least equal in terms of swordsmanship though I would say better, even when facing Fu with a knife (a weapon he is not very experienced with using) he still managed to make Fu look like a total scrub despite Fu being easily capable of dodging machine gun fire. The ultimate eye is the one clear advantage Bradley has, It would allow him to see Six's weaknesses and exploit them with his, in my opinion, superior speed and swordsmanship.

Bump...again.

@jashro44: I can see that being the case. I just thought this fight would be awesome and pretty even since both are ridiculously fast and skilled.

tough fight. but bradley has a much more sword skills. and we have no doubt about that since it was proven when he fought Fu and greed Lin Yao, he was able to kill Fu, who he describes as a better fighter than him considering their age gap. and it was more proven when he fought Scar on a major disadvantage, he pinned him down to his mercy, and took an alchemy to the chest but yet, he still able to almost kill scar, if it wasn't for his rather quick aging body he could've got the win.

@eatmore_payless: I doubt Bradley is too far a head of Six in skill if at all.

Agent Six.

@god_spawn said:

@eatmore_payless: I doubt Bradley is too far a head of Six in skill if at all.

I haven't seen Six fought some one who is at his level of fighting skill. So i doubt his sword skill is better than wrath. But i gotta admit six must be pretty damn strong to slice those ginormous boulders, and the fact that he constantly fighting giant evo's. But then again bradley has already showed as that his sword skill dominates even the worlds finest fighters (scar, Fu, Lin Yao, buckaneer) and he wasn't even trying not just that he also has his ultimate eye which allows him to foresee the move that his opponent is going to make before they execute it. As i said this is going to be a tough fight but in the end the king will still be on top.

Alright for example, Six deflecting those bullets in that feat video is very impressive but he was standing still and the bullets were not coming in particularly large amounts. In contrast Bradley has deflected machine gun bullets from a tank while running towards it which is a much more impressive bullet timing feat.

Observe at 1:47-1:52 how Bradley literally weaves in between bullets, an incredible display of speed that in my opinion Six can't match. Six is skilled and fast, he would put up a good fight, but make no mistake, Six has a snowflakes chance in hell of actually winning.

@TotalBalance said:

Alright for example, Six deflecting those bullets in that feat video is very impressive but he was standing still and the bullets were not coming in particularly large amounts. In contrast Bradley has deflected machine gun bullets from a tank while running towards it which is a much more impressive bullet timing feat.

Observe at 1:47-1:52 how Bradley literally weaves in between bullets, an incredible display of speed that in my opinion Six can't match. Six is skilled and fast, he would put up a good fight, but make no mistake, Six has a snowflakes chance in hell of actually winning.

THIS. And a tank retreating from a man with sword is another feat. :-)

EDIT:

And he also sliced some soldiers while in pursuit of that tank, in a single second I think.

Just wanna say, how come agent Six can dodge bullets and cannot dodge a punch? O_O

@eatmore_payless: There really aren't a whole lot of super skilled people in Gen Rex. I believe he got the upper hand on White Knight before he became...white. And I do remember him having beaten some of the superior members of the Six group (the six most dangerous people in the world) and was able to fight four of them with Rex's help and was able to defeat Five and Three by himself then almost kill Rex not long after his previous fight.

Not to mention Six's swords can be stuck together to form a powerful magnet like weapon which could help. I'm not saying 6 wins or is more skilled, I just think they are relatively close in skill level.

The ultimate eye might changed the level gap though.

@afueikawa said:

The ultimate eye might changed the level gap though.

Bradley's ultimate mustache is also infinitely superior to that failed attempt at facial hair Six has going.

@TotalBalance:

he was using something like this all the time.

@TotalBalance said:

Alright for example, Six deflecting those bullets in that feat video is very impressive but he was standing still and the bullets were not coming in particularly large amounts. In contrast Bradley has deflected machine gun bullets from a tank while running towards it which is a much more impressive bullet timing feat.

Observe at 1:47-1:52 how Bradley literally weaves in between bullets, an incredible display of speed that in my opinion Six can't match. Six is skilled and fast, he would put up a good fight, but make no mistake, Six has a snowflakes chance in hell of actually winning.

None of that really proves Bradley is much faster. We never saw a limit to Six's speed ourselves and he was running towards an opponent in a closer distance than the tank was from Bradley, despite a difference in the gun and from a much more accomplished marksman which makes a difference as far as comics/manga/ shows go. Dodging in between 3 bullets when you also have a pre-cog eye doesn't help make the feat anymore impressive. Not to mention, arguably slower characters have done similar feats before so I don't see it as more impressive anyway.

@afueikawa:

THIS. And a tank retreating from a man with sword is another feat. :-)

Six has one shotted ,or come close to, large monsters with a sword that trained soldiers with various armaments cannot. Bradley's tank feat is impressive but there is a big difference in some scared soldiers than a trained one with similar skill and speed

And he also sliced some soldiers while in pursuit of that tank, in a single second I think.

Which really isn't something Six can't accomplish. His agility is wickedly insane and he's weaved around characters to the point he looks like he is teleporting.

Just wanna say, how come agent Six can dodge bullets and cannot dodge a punch? O_O

Character's dodge bullets all the time yet get tagged by skilled characters.

@TheCerealKillz said:

You silver tongued devil you.

I'd say King Bradley in a good fight. I think his Ultimate eye is gonna be the real factor in this, being able to catch his movement.

Me? Silver tongued? Why you say so, good sir?

Thanks for the input.

@god_spawn said:

@TotalBalance said:

Alright for example, Six deflecting those bullets in that feat video is very impressive but he was standing still and the bullets were not coming in particularly large amounts. In contrast Bradley has deflected machine gun bullets from a tank while running towards it which is a much more impressive bullet timing feat.

Observe at 1:47-1:52 how Bradley literally weaves in between bullets, an incredible display of speed that in my opinion Six can't match. Six is skilled and fast, he would put up a good fight, but make no mistake, Six has a snowflakes chance in hell of actually winning.

None of that really proves Bradley is much faster. We never saw a limit to Six's speed ourselves and he was running towards an opponent in a closer distance than the tank was from Bradley, despite a difference in the gun and from a much more accomplished marksman which makes a difference as far as comics/manga/ shows go. Dodging in between 3 bullets when you also have a pre-cog eye doesn't help make the feat anymore impressive.

@afueikawa:

THIS. And a tank retreating from a man with sword is another feat. :-)

Six has one shotted ,or come close to, large monsters with a sword that trained soldiers with various armaments cannot. Bradley's tank feat is impressive but there is a big difference in some scared soldiers than a trained one with similar skill and speed

And he also sliced some soldiers while in pursuit of that tank, in a single second I think.

Which really isn't something Six can't accomplish. His agility is wickedly insane and he's weaved around characters to the point he looks like he is teleporting.

Just wanna say, how come agent Six can dodge bullets and cannot dodge a punch? O_O

Character's dodge bullets all the time yet get tagged by skilled characters.

None of these feats are better than what Bradley has pulled off -- the best you can say is that their physical feats are similar. Does six really have a counter for an eye that gives precog and info to enemy weakness?

King Bradlwy ftw

@god_spawn said:

@afueikawa:

THIS. And a tank retreating from a man with sword is another feat. :-)

Six has one shotted ,or come close to, large monsters with a sword that trained soldiers with various armaments cannot. Bradley's tank feat is impressive but there is a big difference in some scared soldiers than a trained one with similar skill and speed

And he also sliced some soldiers while in pursuit of that tank, in a single second I think.

Which really isn't something Six can't accomplish. His agility is wickedly insane and he's weaved around characters to the point he looks like he is teleporting.

I was purely commenting on the videos posted, which shows bradley's advantage. Not to mention he still have that patch on.

Just wanna say, how come agent Six can dodge bullets and cannot dodge a punch? O_O

Character's dodge bullets all the time yet get tagged by skilled characters.

Some inconsistencies in cartoons/anime i think.

@Dredeuced: I never said they were. I just don't find them anything Bradley has done speed or skill wise far beyond where it becomes a major advantage against Six's own speed, agility and skill. And not really, but the eye isn't exactly full proof either and doesn't make Bradley untouchable or every attack he throws connect. Bradley doesn't necessarily have a counter either for having his weapons taken away and being pulled into powerful magnet and getting skewered since he does have metal on his uniform ie a belt buckle or still holding onto his blades.

I'm not saying Six wins, I think this fight is pretty close and that's why I made it. They both have at least one advantage over each other that can make a difference.

If it's a 1 on 1 fight, then Six can't block his view of himself? As long as he can see his opponent, he's got precog.

@afueikawa:

Some inconsistencies in cartoons/anime i think.

It's consistent in virtually every form of media done. You can write pages worth of characters that have dodged bullets in anime, comics, various other shows that get tagged by each other because of skill levels.

@TheCerealKillz:

I have not and thank you. I just wanted a debate out of this and I'm the only one doing it yet not really picking a winner lol.

@TheCerealKillz said:

As long as Six can take a couple of hits, I think he has this in a close fight.

During the Scar vs Bradley episode, it was thought that Bradley is in a disadvantage since he was stabbed, shot and got his ultimate eye whacked (not sure if it is the right term lol), but still put up a prettey impressive fight and nearly get a draw out of scar.

If Six got hit by bradley, he's done.

Bradley is 60, but still rampages like a monster, can't imagine what he can do during his prime.

I think that hit is suspect. We've already established his one weakness (someone attacking him where he can't see them) -- Ling only hit him when he was in the process of removing a sword from his gut from aforementioned weakness being exploited. Ling and his ninja girlfriend fought Wrath/Bradley before and he crushed them and sent them running, so I'm pretty sure Ling alone doesn't have the skills to lay a hit on Bradley. If Agent six can find a way to hit him 1 on 1 then the fight's over, because Bradley's a human who gets weaker the more he gets injured. If you establish that his precog can be avoided in a 1 on 1 fight (which has never been done in any of Bradley's 1 on 1 fights, only when there was someone attacking him from behind someone else's suicidal dive) then possibly. I actually argued before that Deathstroke's got the tactical mind to figure out Bradley's weakness and exploit it with his more impressive combat feats, I'm just not sure Agent Six could do it solo.

It's basically a matter of opinion, I'm throwing my lot in with a guy who had to fight 3 powerful named characters at once to even get hit.

@Dredeuced said:

I think that hit is suspect. We've already established his one weakness (someone attacking him where he can't see them) -- Ling only hit him when he was in the process of removing a sword from his gut from aforementioned weakness being exploited. Ling and his ninja girlfriend fought Wrath/Bradley before and he crushed them and sent them running, so I'm pretty sure Ling alone doesn't have the skills to lay a hit on Bradley. If Agent six can find a way to hit him 1 on 1 then the fight's over, because Bradley's a human who gets weaker the more he gets injured. If you establish that his precog can be avoided in a 1 on 1 fight (which has never been done in any of Bradley's 1 on 1 fights, only when there was someone attacking him from behind someone else's suicidal dive) then possibly. I actually argued before that Deathstroke's got the tactical mind to figure out Bradley's weakness and exploit it with his more impressive combat feats, I'm just not sure Agent Six could do it solo.

It's basically a matter of opinion, I'm throwing my lot in with a guy who had to fight 3 powerful named characters at once to even get hit.

Agreed.

This is a 1 on 1 fight so Bradley 6/10 with that eye patch on.

7/10 w/o the eye patch

@TheCerealKillz said:

@afueikawa said:

@TheCerealKillz said:

As long as Six can take a couple of hits, I think he has this in a close fight.

During the Scar vs Bradley episode, it was thought that Bradley is in a disadvantage since he was stabbed, shot and got his ultimate eye whacked (not sure if it is the right term lol), but still put up a prettey impressive fight and nearly get a draw out of scar.

If Six got hit by bradley, he's done.

Bradley is 60, but still rampages like a monster, can't imagine what he can do during his prime.

If this was talking about Bradley in his prime, then I'd have no problem saying Bradley wins.

But the thing is is that while Bradley is fast, I'd say Six is just as fast. Bradley has went on record saying that his body can't keep up with the Ultimate Eye. Also, it's been shown that Bradley can also be fooled, like when the guy stabbed Bradley when Fu was blocking his sight. I think that Six would be able to deduce this, and would be able to distract Bradley, be it some explosion, a piece of rubble, something, and take Bradley down, or atleast cripple him.

Fooling Bradley might or not work. When he was fighting Greed / Ling, Briggs soldiers fired on him and he was able to dodge those bullets on his way to sliced them.

As Buckaneer (might spelled it wrong) stated, even if Bradley has the eye of a god, he can't block something he doesn't see which is true and proven. But if you do it from a distance, there's no telling he won't be able to react.

@TheCerealKillz said:

And, while it may sound disturbing, if it was populated and the characters were out of character, I could totally see Six killing innocents and using their limbs as a way to distract Bradley.

Bradley in character would kill innocents without hesitation just to kill his opponent.

@TheCerealKillz said:

@Dredeuced said:

I think that hit is suspect. We've already established his one weakness (someone attacking him where he can't see them) -- Ling only hit him when he was in the process of removing a sword from his gut from aforementioned weakness being exploited. Ling and his ninja girlfriend fought Wrath/Bradley before and he crushed them and sent them running, so I'm pretty sure Ling alone doesn't have the skills to lay a hit on Bradley. If Agent six can find a way to hit him 1 on 1 then the fight's over, because Bradley's a human who gets weaker the more he gets injured. If you establish that his precog can be avoided in a 1 on 1 fight (which has never been done in any of Bradley's 1 on 1 fights, only when there was someone attacking him from behind someone else's suicidal dive) then possibly. I actually argued before that Deathstroke's got the tactical mind to figure out Bradley's weakness and exploit it with his more impressive combat feats, I'm just not sure Agent Six could do it solo.

It's basically a matter of opinion, I'm throwing my lot in with a guy who had to fight 3 powerful named characters at once to even get hit.

Good argument. However I do think that, with the area around them, Six has a lot of different ways to somehow distract Bradley.

And, while it may sound disturbing, if it was populated and the characters were out of character, I could totally see Six killing innocents and using their limbs as a way to distract Bradley.

Rules stated in character, which is an obvious advantage to Bradley who is much more ruthless and quicker to kill without asking questions, and far less concerned with collateral. I feel like Bradley's only shown weakness is attacking him at point blank range with someone else doing so as well and obscuring his vision from doing so -- as he's been distracted while fighting someone before (he dealt with Buccaneer effortlessly, at point blank range, while being shot at, WITHOUT his eye patch off and didn't so much as break a sweat), so I don't think a general distraction like an explosion to the side or popping up from behind rubble would affect him too much, you have too occupy his entire field of view and his ability to parry (as Bucc hit him while he was disarming Fu, same with Ling hitting him while he was disarming his own bowels, lol). You can't just distract him, you have to remove his entire field of vision and occupy his parrying ala Fu suicide bombing him. Agent Six might be good enough or resourceful enough to pull that off, but I'd actually put my money on Bradley's eye finding a way to let him get a hit it on Six moreso than Six's intelligence letting him outsmart Bradley's eye.

I'm not sure how the magnetism would work, if it's strong enough to disarm Bradley (questionable, but all hypotheticals are), then Six has a clear hand up because, while Bradley's improvisational skills are obviously top notch, he's clearly an entirely different, and more skilled, beast with his preferred swords.

@TheCerealKillz said:

As long as Six can take a couple of hits, I think he has this in a close fight.

From all showing of Bradley fight scenes, if someone gets hit by him, they get injured seriously, unable to fight or worst, killed.

Oh one thing, if this was Bradley from the 1st anime, he wins definitely.

We're using feats from Brotherhood, and that's the one depicted in the OP. Can't use the op first anime version who could literally see through walls and is literally unkillable without having his skull around.

@Dredeuced said:

We're using feats from Brotherhood, and that's the one depicted in the OP. Can't use the op first anime version who could literally see through walls and is literally unkillable without having his skull around.

Oh ok, othewise it would be a curbstomp.

Bradley has no strength/grip feats, just superhuman speed/reaction time to block and dodge bullets. I'd say that's actually a trump card unless Bradley's swords are non-ferrous.

edit-- Actually, how prone is Agent Six when using magnetism? I'm not too familiar with the series, just going off of listed feats. At 30 feet apart with Bradley's speed, if he's any bit vulnerable then Bradley's got the chops to just kill him in hand to hand if he loses his swords.

@Dredeuced said:

Bradley has no strength/grip feats, just superhuman speed/reaction time to block and dodge bullets. I'd say that's actually a trump card unless Bradley's swords are non-ferrous.

edit-- Actually, how prone is Agent Six when using magnetism? I'm not too familiar with the series, just going off of listed feats.

If he has a carbon-based sword (like Greed), it would be more difficult for Six.

@Dredeuced: Six isn't that prone when using magnetism. He just sticks his swords together and straight out and can just separate them quickly. The magnetism is also pretty powerful considering they have pulled in a bunch of light posts to prevent a small bridge from collapsing. If he does use it, Bradley is in a position just to get speared through them since he can't swing if he is being pulled in and all Six has to do is just aim his swords in the right spot and dodge Bradley's coming at him which he has the reaction time and accuracy to pull off. And Six has used them in combat to drop things on people or get in people's way.

Idk if you have watched the amv or not I posted since you just said you've gone off feats listed which I only named like 3.

@Dredeuced said:

We're using feats from Brotherhood, and that's the one depicted in the OP. Can't use the op first anime version who could literally see through walls and is literally unkillable without having his skull around.

1st anime series was non canon towards the latter half as the Manga hadn't even finished at that time. Brotherhood is literally a direct adaptation of the manga from start to finish.

AMVs are dumb and i cringe while trying to watch them, so no. If he can disarm Bradley then I'd say he wins. Bradley's got no impressive combat feats without weapons to parry with. I stand by my refute that Agent Six wouldn't know enough about Bradley or his power to create a good way to counter (All the Briggs folks had inside info via Greed about Wrath's ability), but it hardly matters with someone of atleast similar speed and swordsmanship fights him without swords.

If Bradley's swords are non-ferrous, then I'd say he probably wins because he can effortlessly dodge anything being thrown at him(Just check him escaping the exploding train scene to check his real movement speed and reaction time. World is near speedster slow motion for him) and it seems the consensus is he's a better/more experienced sword fighter.