Agent 47 vs John Marston

#1 Posted by joewell (5053 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

Both have 1 hour prep

Standard Weapons ( for John highest class )

John has Dead Eye

Both are bloodlusted

Little info

Fight here
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#2 Posted by Enemybird (3004 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

Marston with ease

#3 Posted by joewell (5053 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@Enemybird said:

Marston with ease

reason

#4 Posted by Enemybird (3004 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@joewell said:

@Enemybird said:

Marston with ease

reason

Deadeye

#5 Posted by ygoox (62 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

Well, it's a thought one.

A cowboy that can slow TIME down VS a Hitman who can't do the same.

#6 Posted by matmatxm8 (587 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@Enemybird said:

@joewell said:

@Enemybird said:

Marston with ease

reason

Deadeye

Agent 47 can also see things in slow motion, see hitman 5

#7 Posted by Pokeysteve (3072 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@matmatxm8 said:

@Enemybird said:

@joewell said:

@Enemybird said:

Marston with ease

reason

Deadeye

Agent 47 can also see things in slow motion, see hitman 5

Absolution?

#8 Posted by Enemybird (3004 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@matmatxm8 said:

@Enemybird said:

@joewell said:

@Enemybird said:

Marston with ease

reason

Deadeye

Agent 47 can also see things in slow motion, see hitman 5

Doesn't matter if it wasn't included in the OP.

#9 Posted by Sethlol (1235 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

A straight up shoot out would be interesting. Dead Eye vs Modern Weapons. Maybe Marston on that. idk for sure.

If you made a round where 47 could do what he does best (sneak) and try to take out Marston then he easily would win that.

#10 Posted by Kellar21 (444 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@Sethlol

A straight up shoot out would be interesting. Dead Eye vs Modern Weapons. Maybe Marston on that. idk for sure.
If you made a round where 47 could do what he does best (sneak) and try to take out Marston then he easily would win that.

I also see it that way, in a straight up shoot out Marston would win,he can hit six+ persons in the head in a row with everyone on a horse and in a high speed pursuit.

However if Agent 47 is given prep he can simply snipe Marston or plant a bomb on his house or something.

We need more information on location and fight conditions.

#11 Posted by joewell (5053 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@Kellar21: I gave a location and prep

#12 Posted by hudyman (1399 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

47 kills John with complete ease. Anyone who has played a hit man game knows this. 47 will kill John before he even knew this was a battle

#13 Edited by Kellar21 (444 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@joewell

Ah,ok,sorry.

Well then Agent 47 wins he will probably rig the place with explosives and John won't even see him.(my opinion stays that if he did, Marston would be able to kill Agent 47 first)

#14 Posted by hudyman (1399 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@Kellar21 said:

@joewell

Ah,ok,sorry.

Well then Agent 47 wins he will probably rig the place with explosives and John won't even see him.(my opinion stays that if he did, Marston would be able to kill Agent 47 first)

haha nope you are so wrong. No one has ever seen agent 47 and lived, Except from the detective. And like i said before. If this is the game version of 47 God help marston. He will be dead before he even realises this is a battle.

#15 Posted by matmatxm8 (587 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@Pokeysteve said:

@matmatxm8 said:

@Enemybird said:

@joewell said:

@Enemybird said:

Marston with ease

reason

Deadeye

Agent 47 can also see things in slow motion, see hitman 5

Absolution?

yup

#16 Posted by joewell (5053 posts) - 6 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

bump

#17 Posted by Pokeysteve (3072 posts) - 6 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

@matmatxm8: Has that even come out yet? Not in the US it hasn't I don't think.

#18 Posted by Enemybird (3004 posts) - 6 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

@hudyman said:

@Kellar21 said:

@joewell

Ah,ok,sorry.

Well then Agent 47 wins he will probably rig the place with explosives and John won't even see him.(my opinion stays that if he did, Marston would be able to kill Agent 47 first)

haha nope you are so wrong. No one has ever seen agent 47 and lived, Except from the detective. And like i said before. If this is the game version of 47 God help marston. He will be dead before he even realises this is a battle.

You're giving 47 way to much credit here. He has standard weapons so this will be a shootout. Nothing about the setting gives 47 any advantages over Marston. As a matter of fact, 47's forte is infiltration with disguise not stealth in the manner required FTW as you've suggested.

#19 Posted by hudyman (1399 posts) - 6 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

@Enemybird said:

@hudyman said:

@Kellar21 said:

@joewell

Ah,ok,sorry.

Well then Agent 47 wins he will probably rig the place with explosives and John won't even see him.(my opinion stays that if he did, Marston would be able to kill Agent 47 first)

haha nope you are so wrong. No one has ever seen agent 47 and lived, Except from the detective. And like i said before. If this is the game version of 47 God help marston. He will be dead before he even realises this is a battle.

You're giving 47 way to much credit here. He has standard weapons so this will be a shootout. Nothing about the setting gives 47 any advantages over Marston. As a matter of fact, 47's forte is infiltration with disguise not stealth in the manner required FTW as you've suggested.

Wow...just wow. Do you even know what you are talking about?. Agent 47 is Very very very very dangerous. This is like putting batman against john marston. I have played all hitman games and red dead redemption along with undead nightmare. I can tell you this. 47 will kill maston with absolute ease. Dead eye doesnt really help against a guy that will kill you before you have the chance to use it. 47 it able to take on batman,punisher,james bond and other people all at the same time. I dont think its fair to compare him with a cowboy that has Dead Eye.

#20 Posted by matmatxm8 (587 posts) - 6 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio
#21 Posted by Enemybird (3004 posts) - 6 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

@hudyman said:

@Enemybird said:

@hudyman said:

@Kellar21 said:

@joewell

Ah,ok,sorry.

Well then Agent 47 wins he will probably rig the place with explosives and John won't even see him.(my opinion stays that if he did, Marston would be able to kill Agent 47 first)

haha nope you are so wrong. No one has ever seen agent 47 and lived, Except from the detective. And like i said before. If this is the game version of 47 God help marston. He will be dead before he even realises this is a battle.

You're giving 47 way to much credit here. He has standard weapons so this will be a shootout. Nothing about the setting gives 47 any advantages over Marston. As a matter of fact, 47's forte is infiltration with disguise not stealth in the manner required FTW as you've suggested.

Wow...just wow. Do you even know what you are talking about?. Agent 47 is Very very very very dangerous. This is like putting batman against john marston. I have played all hitman games and red dead redemption along with undead nightmare. I can tell you this. 47 will kill maston with absolute ease. Dead eye doesnt really help against a guy that will kill you before you have the chance to use it. 47 is able to take on batman,punisher,james bond and other people all at the same time. I dont think its fair to compare him with a cowboy that has Dead Eye.

I rest my case...

#22 Posted by nickzambuto (7809 posts) - 6 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

Dead Eye is more than just a gameplay mechanic, it's an extension of John's gun skill, a way to show his unbelievable accuracy. As a cowboy, it's understandable that he'd be quick on the draw.

John can instantly pull out his gun and unload an entire clip into however many enemies before they can even twitch their fingers to pull the trigger of their guns, already aimed at him.

John effortlessly shoots down a flock of high flying birds just to prove himself to Ricketts, owns several quick-draw showdowns throughout the game, at one point shooting his enemies gun out of his hand with pinpoint accuracy, and has taken on entire armies with no problem.

#23 Edited by INLIFE (666 posts) - 6 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

I Say 47.

Here Is Why:

  • Agent 47 is an assassin with years of experience handling situations that Marston would not survive a minute in. 47 has fought many types of criminals, law enforcers, and the world's best assassins. He has defeated highly trained ninjas, and terrorists with weaponry to blow through nearly anything. Dozens of his brothers (48- clone type) fell because 47 wanted to hunt his creator.
  • John Marston is a human, but 47 is a clone. 47 possess 47 chromosomes, giving him higher intelligence, strength, reflexes accuracy and much more. He was made to adapt to any situation and is considered at the peak of human perfection. A higher tolerance of pain was also demonstrated throughout the entire series.
  • In Absolution, the new game soon to come out, 47 is capable of performing a mark and execute similar to Dead Eye, as well as seeing through walls by using his instincts.
  • 47 has modern weaponry and knowledge. He is easily a better strategist.

47's targets never survive if he is on the job............John Marston is no exception. 47 is capable of beating Marston without prep, but the one hour is simply overkill.

47 Demonstrated Feats:

  • Very Fast Reflexes.
  • Profession In Strategy.
  • High Level Strength In Combat.
  • Extreme Tolerance For Pain.
  • The Agent "47" Cold-Blooded And Professional Style.

And this is not even his best..........see the previous games for his ability to handle very difficult situations, environments, people, and location security.

For those who believe that John Marston's accuracy would eliminate agent 47, I respectfully disagree. 47 has unbelievable accuracy due to his enhanced genes and extra chromosome. The only thing that downplays his accuracy is the weapon he is using. His accuracy has extended to all of the weapons he has used throughout the games and the books. In Absolution, his accuracy allows him instantly accurate shooting.

#24 Posted by Pokeysteve (3072 posts) - 6 months, 14 days ago - Show Bio

@matmatxm8 said:

@Pokeysteve said:

@matmatxm8: Has that even come out yet? Not in the US it hasn't I don't think.

I've seen it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1ucjIpymOI

look at the part 14:47

Wow. You know I've actually seen that video (very excited for the game) and completely forgot. I even though when when I saw it that it was just like Dead Eye. That definitely puts 47 back in the game here.

#25 Posted by hudyman (1399 posts) - 6 months, 14 days ago - Show Bio

@nickzambuto said:

Dead Eye is more than just a gameplay mechanic, it's an extension of John's gun skill, a way to show his unbelievable accuracy. As a cowboy, it's understandable that he'd be quick on the draw.

John can instantly pull out his gun and unload an entire clip into however many enemies before they can even twitch their fingers to pull the trigger of their guns, already aimed at him.

John effortlessly shoots down a flock of high flying birds just to prove himself to Ricketts, owns several quick-draw showdowns throughout the game, at one point shooting his enemies gun out of his hand with pinpoint accuracy, and has taken on entire armies with no problem.

This is just too funny. I find it so amusing how you actually think a cowboy with dead eye, can kill 47. First of all, in the new game 47 has a technique similar to dead eye and is also able to see targets through walls. Also At the end of Red Dead Redemtion, When john is killed by those people. I can wager anything that 47 would have been able to eliminate them all. and without even using his technique. John however didnt survive. I mean think about it. Deadeye or not John is just an average cowboy. 47 is The Ultimate Assassin.

#26 Posted by nickzambuto (7809 posts) - 6 months, 14 days ago - Show Bio

@hudyman said:

@nickzambuto said:

Dead Eye is more than just a gameplay mechanic, it's an extension of John's gun skill, a way to show his unbelievable accuracy. As a cowboy, it's understandable that he'd be quick on the draw.

John can instantly pull out his gun and unload an entire clip into however many enemies before they can even twitch their fingers to pull the trigger of their guns, already aimed at him.

John effortlessly shoots down a flock of high flying birds just to prove himself to Ricketts, owns several quick-draw showdowns throughout the game, at one point shooting his enemies gun out of his hand with pinpoint accuracy, and has taken on entire armies with no problem.

This is just too funny. I find it so amusing how you actually think a cowboy with dead eye, can kill 47. First of all, in the new game 47 has a technique similar to dead eye and is also able to see targets through walls. Also At the end of Red Dead Redemtion, When john is killed by those people. I can wager anything that 47 would have been able to eliminate them all. and without even using his technique. John however didnt survive. I mean think about it. Deadeye or not John is just an average cowboy. 47 is The Ultimate Assassin.

You need to calm down and not get so mad over one post.

Secondly, John's death was not through any fault of his own. All he had was a revolver. Revolvers only carry six bullets. There was over a dozen army men.

The fact that he actually managed to unload every bullet he had before any of the army men could pull a single shot off is far better than any accuracy feat 47 has displayed, unless you can show me some feats.

#27 Posted by hudyman (1399 posts) - 6 months, 14 days ago - Show Bio

Watch 14:43 You were saying?

@nickzambuto said:

@hudyman said:

@nickzambuto said:

Dead Eye is more than just a gameplay mechanic, it's an extension of John's gun skill, a way to show his unbelievable accuracy. As a cowboy, it's understandable that he'd be quick on the draw.

John can instantly pull out his gun and unload an entire clip into however many enemies before they can even twitch their fingers to pull the trigger of their guns, already aimed at him.

John effortlessly shoots down a flock of high flying birds just to prove himself to Ricketts, owns several quick-draw showdowns throughout the game, at one point shooting his enemies gun out of his hand with pinpoint accuracy, and has taken on entire armies with no problem.

This is just too funny. I find it so amusing how you actually think a cowboy with dead eye, can kill 47. First of all, in the new game 47 has a technique similar to dead eye and is also able to see targets through walls. Also At the end of Red Dead Redemtion, When john is killed by those people. I can wager anything that 47 would have been able to eliminate them all. and without even using his technique. John however didnt survive. I mean think about it. Deadeye or not John is just an average cowboy. 47 is The Ultimate Assassin.

You need to calm down and not get so mad over one post.

Secondly, John's death was not through any fault of his own. All he had was a revolver. Revolvers only carry six bullets. There was over a dozen army men.

The fact that he actually managed to unload every bullet he had before any of the army men could pull a single shot off is far better than any accuracy feat 47 has displayed, unless you can show me some feats.

Lol! i am calmed. John's death was actually very retarded. 47 Could easily have taken all of them out. He has taken down stronger and way more skilled people than John marston. Your average Cowboy.

#28 Posted by nickzambuto (7809 posts) - 6 months, 14 days ago - Show Bio

@hudyman said:

@nickzambuto said:

@hudyman said:

@nickzambuto said:

Dead Eye is more than just a gameplay mechanic, it's an extension of John's gun skill, a way to show his unbelievable accuracy. As a cowboy, it's understandable that he'd be quick on the draw.

John can instantly pull out his gun and unload an entire clip into however many enemies before they can even twitch their fingers to pull the trigger of their guns, already aimed at him.

John effortlessly shoots down a flock of high flying birds just to prove himself to Ricketts, owns several quick-draw showdowns throughout the game, at one point shooting his enemies gun out of his hand with pinpoint accuracy, and has taken on entire armies with no problem.

This is just too funny. I find it so amusing how you actually think a cowboy with dead eye, can kill 47. First of all, in the new game 47 has a technique similar to dead eye and is also able to see targets through walls. Also At the end of Red Dead Redemtion, When john is killed by those people. I can wager anything that 47 would have been able to eliminate them all. and without even using his technique. John however didnt survive. I mean think about it. Deadeye or not John is just an average cowboy. 47 is The Ultimate Assassin.

You need to calm down and not get so mad over one post.

Secondly, John's death was not through any fault of his own. All he had was a revolver. Revolvers only carry six bullets. There was over a dozen army men.

The fact that he actually managed to unload every bullet he had before any of the army men could pull a single shot off is far better than any accuracy feat 47 has displayed, unless you can show me some feats.

Lol! i am calmed. John's death was actually very retarded. 47 Could easily have taken all of them out. He has taken down stronger and way more skilled people than John marston. Your average Cowboy.

Like I said, John died because his weapons sucked. All the skill and accuracy in the world, he simply didn't have enough bullets.

If he had a more modern weapon with a full clip, he'd still be alive.

#29 Posted by hudyman (1399 posts) - 6 months, 14 days ago - Show Bio

What do you expect, he was fighting cowboys, I'd love to see him take down any of the targets 47 Eliminated.

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