"Okay... for the sake of the battle can we use Tiamut the Celestial... instead of the God version ?
lol "
That's one of the problems. Fulcrum asks Tiamut if he wants to go with him, we don't see Tiamut's reply. So until its confirmed, I'm considering it's the celestial.
"Okay... for the sake of the battle can we use Tiamut the Celestial... instead of the God version ?
lol "
That's one of the problems. Fulcrum asks Tiamut if he wants to go with him, we don't see Tiamut's reply. So until its confirmed, I'm considering it's the celestial. "
"Tiamut CURBSTOMPS and unfairly I might add now that Tiamut has become God/TOAA's equal: "
AtPhantom said:
"That is not God, that is the Fulcrum, a force which has no established position in Marvel cosmology. "
That's right! It's not god/TOAA. As far as I know the only time TOAA was really shown was in a metaphor that took place in the afterlife when the FF were in the afterlife. Here's the scans:
The writer's said that they wanted TOAA's image to pay homage to the late Jack Kirby. And the person on the phone is, of course, the great Stan Lee. There is also symbolism in that cigar on his table, but I can't remember what it was right now.
What about Kubik ? He was able to defeat Beyonder... not a good enough feat here ? "
Kubik defeated the first recon Beyonder when they described him as part of a cosmic cube (w/ Owen Reece being the other part) not the PR Beyonder that is usually focused here on the vine.
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