Adult Franklin Richards VS Rune King Thor

@Hyperlight said:

@Hyper_God: so unlike the celestials... Galactus power isnt perpetual but he does have a higher threshold. my bad im having a hard time believing that celestials have more power and authority that one who is a part of a group of the highest forces in the universe ( along with eternity/infinity, death, and oblivion)

Celestials can build up energy too , although unlike Galactus it isn't an absolute necessity for them . Galactus on his average levels could be argued to be slightly below Celestials , but his peak potential for power exceeds what your run of the mill prime host Celestial has shown .

@Killemall said:

I honestly still think, CIS aside, Kid Franklin is more than powerful enough to beat Rune King Thor.

likewise

@Killemall said:

I honestly still think, CIS aside, Kid Franklin is more than powerful enough to beat Rune King Thor.

@Hyper_God said:

@Hyperlight said:

@Hyper_God: so unlike the celestials... Galactus power isnt perpetual but he does have a higher threshold. my bad im having a hard time believing that celestials have more power and authority that one who is a part of a group of the highest forces in the universe ( along with eternity/infinity, death, and oblivion)

Celestials can build up energy too , although unlike Galactus it isn't an absolute necessity for them . Galactus on his average levels could be argued to be slightly below Celestials , but his peak potential for power exceeds what your run of the mill prime host Celestial has shown .

could be argued but i understand

Richards wins.

Franklin Richards stomps. even young Franklin has a shot.

@bee14ish said:

Frank

I would say RKT.. Franklins best feat was killing 3 celestials, which he had prep for and had galactus and saved up his power since he was a child... RKT killed celestial being with a blast from mjolnir.. And RKT is omniscience which is a huge advantage

You're misinformed guy, He wasn't even above the threads of fate, thus still being tied to the destiny of Asgard. He couldn't even attack TWSAIS directly. He attacked the threads of fate. Secondly, Celestials beings do not equal Celestial level, where are you getting this from? It was more or less a way of describing Asgard's superiors, who probably still fall far behind other higher cosmic/absract level beings. And How is RTK omniscient? do you how many characters claim to have omniscience? Zeus has claimed omniscience, so has Odin, yet there are clearly other beings still above them. RKT goes down.

frank richards wins this

@x_insignia1: RKT gained the knowledge from Mimir.. The Asguardian god of knowledge and he is omniscient according to marvel ._. Thor also took out 2 of his eyes while odin only did 1.. So he gained more knowledge then him.. And franklin richards needed to merge himself with his younger self and save up his power and had galactus for help.. I think atleast..

FRANKLIN WINS..

Franklin Richards has got this.

franklin wins easily.

did you read anything i posted? Marvel claims many characters are omniscient, It honestly doesn't hold that much when a hella cosmic forced have been referred to as "omniscient" He gained more than knowledge, that's nice, I still don't see how that is going to help with larger cosmic threats given his limitations portrayed in the story arc. As i stated prior he was still below the threads of fate,aka tied to the fate of Asgard. And when did Franklin merge with his younger stuff? please refrain from including instances that never happened. The fact is he destroyed two Celestials under his own power. Something that is above Rune King Thor. Celestials> Asgardardians Gods, this has clearly been portrayed for more than 30 years.

This is a stomp in Franklin's favour.

Franklin Richards ftw

franklin should win after a hard fought battle...

AFR

Lets see... Franky kills Celestials under his own accord... While Asgardian Gods build the Destroyer armour to fight beings like Galactus and Celestials ! (Sorry not sure which) Galactus or a Celeatial came to Asgard.. The destroyer came out fueled by the Gods of Aagard.. Was then promptly melted down to slag ! I just felt like telling a story ! Yes ! King Thor is more powerful than his Old man ! But he is not on Top Tier cosmic level ! If Inhuman Beyonder had other feats besides playing with a fake earth then I'd argue he'd Beat OF Thor ! Anyways ! Franklin Richards stomps Thor and doesn't even realize it !

@x_insignia1: Who cares about that, he had a crazy amount of prep time

Franklin Richards.

RKT is one of the most ridiculously wanked characters on comicvine. All of his feats only occur in his pocket dimension in Asgard and even there he still couldn't avoid Ragnarok. Franklin Richards is a bona fide reality warper. Franklin Richards could literally alter reality so that RKT couldn't access the Odin Force or simply not let RKT's powers harm him. RKT is not a reality warper; hell he couldn't even re-create Mjolnir without Surtur's help. Kid Franklin was creating freaking baby universes as a midnight adventure and turning Celestial beams into flowers, which is more impressive than anything RKT ever did.

Yeah, as much as I love RLT, Franklin at his peak adult form turned Galactus into his herald and was taking on numerous Celestials.

Richards stomps. He made Galactus his pet. RKT is below Galactus.

@uberhikari: UMM are you freakin mad? Odin was a crazy reality warper... Imagine RKT? LOOL

Franky

richards gets his galactus herald

I bet if both had more feats it would me more clear to me but I say RKT

Prolly Richards

RKT STOMPS!

Odin with 1000 years prep, with the efforts of two other top tier sky fathers still managed to get humiliated by the Celestials since you wanna mention prep time. RKT couldn't even reform Mljnor under his own power.

I have old Thor books in the 160`s to 180`s,vol.one(and even some that go to journey into mystery).Now I would have to dig through a lot to find this.But there are some letter pages that state that(we overused the character Galactus,and in the future Thor will not do as well as he did recently.As we feel we diminished the character,and his awesome presence.now I think they ment what they said, don`t think lee +Kirby were still writing thor at the time.But Galactus continued to get jobbed when ever a new cosmic powered mucky muck came along,to prove what a threat he is.But consider he is the perfect plot device,he can lose to the f.f and avengers when starving.Or beat celestials if he had 2 or more planets eaten,If he went on a binge and ate 15-20 planets.He could probably give most any one,or group of cosmics the fight of their life.

Adult Franklin Richard wins. RKT is consistently overrated - he is not on par with Celestials at all.

You bumped an eight-month old thread to talk about a character not in this thread.

Not sure why people are referencing RKT's comparisons with Odin at all - a heavily amped Odin with 1000 yrs of prep couldn't even inflict any lasting damage on a Celestial, and that is the level of beings that Franklin is on. RKT is not on that level. Adult Franklin Richards takes this handily.

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RKT stomps

@thegodkiller3 said:

Adult Franklin Richards{as he appeared in Fantastic Four # 604, confronting(and possibly defeating?) a group of Celestials who had just recently laid out a well fed Galactus } :

VS

Rune King Thor :

Um...now, can someone reassure me on this.

Did he just wipe out some celestials with a thought?

Franklin Richards > Galactus >>>>>>> Rune King Thor

Odin with Destroyer armor, souls of Asguard, and power from the other Skyfathers >>>Odin

Odin with listed gear << Celestial

RKT >> Odin with gear

Celestial ~ RKT

Franklin >> Celestial

Franklin >> RKT

Thats how I see it, give or take a few greater than signs.

LOL @ the person who said RKT stomps.

Franklin Richards handily.

.......... Idonthavewords

I would almost say this is a hate thread against rune king thor. He doesnt have the feats to compare to frank richards which is unfair to begin with. Rkt is pretty much pure speculation simply because theres not much to go on. I do believe rkt to be more powerful than galactus fed or not though. This is an easy choice to go with frank simply because rkt doesnt stack up due to non publication or further stories.

Although I ultimate agree Franklin >> RKT (you can add a lot more > if you want too). There's no way you can state "RKT = Celestial" based on your previous statements.

Just because Celestial is > Odin with all gear. And RKT is also > Odin with all gear doesn't mean they're equal.

Lets assign a number. Odin with all gear = 1. Celestial = 5. 5>1. RKT = 3. 3>1. 5 and 3 are both greater than 1, but 5 does not equal 3.

Now you could get into feats about if RKT equals a celestial and I realize I'm just nitpicking over a pointless statement (as far as the battle is concerned) ...but yeah...

franklin richards

@fallschirmjager: I used a "~" for a reason. They are both more powerful than Odin with gear so it was more of a guesstimate, I wasn't going for exact measurements so it was a nice middle ground. That's why I said give or take some greater thans.

the thing thor did to mangog makes me think, that was way beyond anything odin could ever do. i'm pretty sure that RKT is more or less on celestial/elder god/galactus level, so has a pretty good shot against franklin. then again, due to lack of feats gotta give it to richards. but i'm so pretty sure that we'll see RKT again and his real power soon enough..

regular thor almost killed a "not-so-hungry" galactus..